Returing player. need a help making a mill deck

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Posted on Dec. 10, 2017, 2:47 p.m. by Sabotaurus

Hi,

I havent been playing MTG for years and i want to get back. I have alot of cards from the theros era and around but i want to start a bit fresh. I would love to get some tips about a low-cost mill deck.

8vomit says... #2

Theres an infinite combo with Mindcrank and Duskmantle Guildmage. Throw that in with a general mill control shell, can be pretty strong, and cheap.

I built it, love it, and am trying to get others on the bandwagon.

December 10, 2017 2:54 p.m.

Sabotaurus says... #3

nice! sounds awesome. I might use that then. got both too. just need to find a general shell i like

December 10, 2017 4:37 p.m.

Azdranax says... #4

It's a great time to build it, as several of the staples have been reprinted recently, so the cost is considerably lower than even a few months ago (thanks primarily to Glimpse the Unthinkable and Thoughtseize reprints, although more common things like Jace's Phantasm and Thought Scour have helped as well). You can probably build a competitive version for less than half of what it would have cost four or five months ago.

December 10, 2017 4:37 p.m.

VaultSkirge says... #5

To tell the truth, mill just isn't a competitive archetype in Modern anymore, but the Duskmantle-Mindcrank Combo could work. Also, "Modern" and "low cost" do not belong together in the same sentence. To really make a competitive Modern deck, you need shocklands and fetch lands to operate effectively. However, I think a relatively competitive shell built around Duskmantle Guildmage and Mindcrank could look something like this:

4 Remand4 Glimpse the Unthinkable4 Thoughtseize4 Duskmantle Guildmage2 Mindcrank2 any decent artifact tutor

December 10, 2017 5:16 p.m.

pinkhamster says... #6

Challenge combo: Fraying Sanity + Traumatize !

December 10, 2017 8:19 p.m.

antacidbrn says... #7

Mill is competitive when done right, but in Modern it has to be fast. The crank / mantle combo is cute, but Duskmantle will get Fatal Pushed, Path to Exiled or Bolted and crank will get Abrade or some other artifact hate.

My best mill deck is a tempo build with high value low cost creatures, Hedron Crab, Delver of Secrets, Jace's Phantasm. You put pressure by attacking and milling at the same time. #nastiness. Here is the build Modern Delver Mill.

December 11, 2017 1:51 a.m.

8vomit says... #8

antacidbrn Let me point out that it doesnt matter if the guildmage dies, you just need to activate him, and the opponent loses when Fatal Push hits the yard.

December 11, 2017 12:36 p.m.

antacidbrn says... #9

8vomit, Duskmantle has an activated ability which will be lethal should it go off with mindcrank. But activated abilities that aren't mana abilities go on the stack because of summoning sickness. So if I were opposing a player who played Mindcrank and Dusk, I would just Fatal Push/Path/Bolt/Dismember/etc. Dusk and keep right on playing.

December 11, 2017 7:06 p.m.

antacidbrn says... #10

My point was in reference to summoning sickness. Dusk cannot be activated during the turn he arrives: if your opponent plays instant speed removal, you can't hold up the mana to ever activate Dusk.

What is the shell that Dusk runs in with Mindcrank that works in Modern? Most of the Modern Meta at my LGS revolves around lots of removal of creatues.

December 11, 2017 10:30 p.m.

8vomit says... #11

You can activate guildmage the turn he enters. He doesnt tap for the ability.

Spellskite and Muddle the Mixture Thoughtseize are great to run in the deck.

December 11, 2017 10:34 p.m.

antacidbrn says... #14

8vomit, I was not aware you could pay the cost for the ability the turn he arrives. That is good to know. But it would still mean you have 5 mana for the win now. So, I am a little worried that this would actually work in Modern, but I think it could be good for EDH as a surprise kill.

December 12, 2017 4:14 p.m.

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