artifact hate low in modern?

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Posted on Jan. 16, 2019, 3:18 a.m. by Vman

idk if its just me, but hollowed one and phoenix decks seem to run verry little artifact hate. against affinity people just use other cards ive noticed.

am i the only one noticing the amount of artifact hate like Ancient Grudge is at an all time low? or is it just a coincidence.

Demarge says... #2

well artifact hate is actually very common, just look at goldfish's modern metagame report and you'll see every single deck listed in the top 12-15 has some number of sideboard or even occasional mainboard artifact hate.

Most of the artifact deck strategies also can be hit with other cards that just so happen to hurt artifacts so having only 2-3 cards that directly hit artifacts could be all that's needed. It really depends on the meta you play in, if it's under 50 attendees with many regulars it might be best to compile your own meta.

January 16, 2019 4:11 a.m.

clayperce says... #3

With KCI, Tron, and Hardened Affinity all towards the top of the format, I believe Artifact hate is relatively high, at least in Competitive play. And Combo decks almost always have either Artifact hate (usually Nature's Claim ) or a bounce spell, to remove an opposing Damping Sphere / Grafdigger's Cage /etc.

FWIW, UR Phoenix usually runs 3-5 hate cards in some combination of Ceremonious Rejection , Abrade , Ancient Grudge , and Shattering Spree . You're right thought that Hollow One doesn't run dedicated hate that often; not sure why.

January 16, 2019 5:09 a.m.

clayperce says... #4

P.S. I got curious about the change in Artifact hate over time, so I looked it up on MTGtop8.

Here's some data on the Top 20 most played sideboard cards in Modern, each year:

If anything, it appears Artifact hate is going up over time, rather than down

January 16, 2019 5:39 a.m.

Sjorpha says... #5

Phoenix decks often run abrade for artifact hate.

January 16, 2019 5:45 a.m.

Vman says... #6

clayperce i actually did a lil check too. Jan 13, 2019 top 8 decks all ran 2-3 artifact hate cards other than kci running 4. i dont think its gone up over time, i think its just we have many different choices nowadays versus Ancient Grudge and Stony Silence from the past.

it is very interesting data tho. personally i think 2-3 artifact hate cards is pretty low, especially with most of the top 8 decks on that particular date atleast running 2 side.

January 16, 2019 6 a.m.

PhthisisClock says... #7

I run Wickerbough Elder , Creeping Corrosion , and Assassin's Trophy in my go-to modern build. I've had to greatly increase artifact hate over the last year.

Negative Creep Modern

January 16, 2019 6:52 a.m.

clayperce says... #8

Vman,
I think it's gone up because we had tons of choices in the past too: Kataki, War's Wage , Creeping Corrosion , Shatterstorm , Smash to Smithereens , Vandalblast , Hurkyl's Recall , and more.

But they didn't make the Top 20 in the past. Now they do.

January 16, 2019 9:34 a.m.

clayperce says... #9

As an additional P.S. ...

2019 is just getting started of course, but we've actually had six Artifact hate cards in the Top 20, over the last two weeks: Abrade #2, Ceremonious Rejection #6, Nature's Claim #7, Stony Silence #9, Ancient Grudge #14, Knight of Autumn #20.

January 16, 2019 10:23 a.m.

Pervavita says... #10

Kolaghan's Command is also artifact hate that sees mainboards.

January 17, 2019 10:15 a.m.

PhthisisClock says... #11

I don't see it too often, but Manglehorn is pretty sweet.

January 18, 2019 6:41 a.m.

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