Aven mindcansor vs leonin arbiter, whats better
Modern forum
Posted on April 27, 2015, 11:39 a.m. by Ghostkitten2
For my modern hatebears deck i currently run 4 Aven Mindcensor and 2 Leonin Arbiter But i dont know if that is a good ratio, i cant decide if i should maybe run 3 of both, or 4 arbiter and 2 mindcensor, or even take out a few to make room for another creature, So i figured i would turn to the community, so what do you guys think is best? I figured id do my best to make a list of the pros and cons of each, but if anyone has anything to add please do.
Pros
Flash
Flying
doesn't lock me out of searching
Cons
A 2/1 body is worse then the arbiter,
The opponent can still find what they need, if they are lucky.
Pros
Cheaper in mana cost
totally locks the opponent out of searching unless they want to make a payment
A 2/2 body is better then the 2/1 on the mindcensor
I also cant search, unless i make a payment
ducttapedeckbox says... #3
I played Hatebears for a very short time, but I always liked the lower curve with Leonin Arbiter. I'd go 4-2 in favor of him. Plus, if you're just GW, then the searching doesn't really hurt you.
April 27, 2015 11:41 a.m.
VampireArmy says... #4
Shouldn't you be playing both for redundancy anyways?
April 27, 2015 11:43 a.m.
VampireArmy says... #5
reading is tech. Sorry. normally I see people going 4 leonin 2-3 aven.
April 27, 2015 11:43 a.m.
i agree arbiter is better, mainly because of the cheaper cmc. the earlier you can keep your opponent off mana, the better. i currently run 4 arbiter 2 mindcensor. it also allows for the best hatebears opening, which is t1 mana dork, t2 arbiter Strip Mine you with Ghost Quarter.
though splashing a third color and playing fetches does make it a little more complicated.
April 27, 2015 12:16 p.m.
filledelanuit says... #7
In general I have always run 0-2 copies of Mindcensor and 4 copies or Arbiter. You should never run less than 4 copies of arbiter but mindcensor is no where near as good and I personally have been running 1 and sideboarding it out a lot.
slovakattack says... #2
I would reverse the ratio. 1 turn earlier with Aether Vial is incredibly important.
April 27, 2015 11:41 a.m.