Budget Eggs?
Modern forum
Posted on Jan. 4, 2015, 9:50 p.m. by TheGrayMerchant
So I want to get into the modern format, but I don't really have the cash to invest in a playset of goyfs and other crap, and I want to play eggs. Is there any budget eggs deck list that has good sideboard hate for the mirrior match? Also, how well does eggs do against the current meta in a small tournament like FNM? Thanks.
I have a list here. For budget, take the Leylines out of the board. It plays really well, for the most part (there just isn't a good replacement for Second Sunrise, unfortunately). It should do really well in an FNM environment, unless everyone is either playing faster combos or excessive artifact hate. For the mirror, Leylines are hard to replace, but if they're going for the newer Altar of the Brood win-con, Laboratory Maniac should help out.
As a side note - for FNM, I would not advise playing Eggs. Why? Well, if you have an interest in A) not drawing several rounds (unless you definitely know what you're doing), B) not getting kicked out of the particular LGS you will undoubtedly piss off, or C) keeping friends, then you might not want to play it. Just saying.
January 4, 2015 10:06 p.m.
GlistenerAgent says... #5
Krark-Clan Ironworks Eggs is the best way to play the deck now. Here are some articles he wrote about the deck.
January 4, 2015 10:09 p.m.
Are you trying to paint a target on yourself? Eggs isn't a deck to dabble in if you're new to modern.
January 4, 2015 10:26 p.m.
zyphermage says... #7
Hrmm very nice I did not know the list for that deck had evolved.
January 4, 2015 10:34 p.m.
ryuzaki32667 says... #8
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/04-09-14-kci-eggs/
Budget eggs for 70$ , the list doesn't have a board because that should always be tailored to your local meta, but it can include bounce for hate cards, cheap counter spells like swan song, and artifact bullets fr certain matchups because of reshape. Can tutor for them
I'll be a little more detailed when can get to my laptop and not on my phone.
January 4, 2015 10:46 p.m.
GlistenerAgent says... #9
I meant to mention that Conley Woods innovated the deck. It would seem "he" was referring to nothing.
January 4, 2015 10:47 p.m.
Hjaltrohir says... #10
i don't like eggs, stalls the game and is no fun to play against.
January 5, 2015 3:05 a.m.
The key determining factor for playing eggs against others will be how quickly you can perform the combo. The main issue is that the combo often becomes infinite yet is not a single repeated action, meaning you must perform all of them. If you have to take time to think about what to do while playing eggs, you don't know the deck well enough and you will probably just piss off your opponent even more. The one good thing about a combo like eggs though is that you can practice it alone since even in real scenarios you will rarely interact with your opponent. Eggs is definitely not something you want to just build then take straight to FNM. New players piloting eggs for the first few times are part of the reason many people hate eggs. When you first get the combo going, it will take you a long time, but as you go on you could probably end the game in maybe a 10 minute turn at the end.
As for the people that just don't like playing against eggs, you'll need to get used to them and those people will need to get over it. We all have matchups we just don't find fun and the goal is to adapt to them. If a long combo annoys you, bring disruption and win easily. Deciding that eggs is annoying because you aren't willing to sideboard an answer to it is your own fault.
January 5, 2015 5:34 a.m.
Which type of Eggs are you looking for? The more objectively powerful, albeit more vulnerable Third Breakfast; the newer, shinier Banefire Eggs; or the seemingly more resilient All In Eggs? This can affect the advice being dispensed here. And, depending on your budget, you might not be able to build it in these ways. You need to do a bit of research into the history of Eggs to understand how to properly budgetize it if need be. If you're just getting into Modern, you might consider holding off on Eggs until you can play it by heart.
If you want an Eggs-like deck, there is Weirdstorm, which is something that has been brewed with by a lot of people on here, as well. And it's cheaper, and somewhat easier to pilot. A few lists come to mind ((x) and (x)).
January 5, 2015 3:25 p.m.
TheGrayMerchant says... #13
I want an eggs deck that has all the combos, but can drop a big creature like all in eggs can. Maybe a hydra broodmaster monstrosity? Also, it has to be sub $100. Thanks.
January 5, 2015 5:23 p.m.
TheGrayMerchant says... #14
Just made something, still needs fine tuning, but I need help with the sideboard.Eggs that Draw
January 5, 2015 6:17 p.m.
JexInfinite says... #15
Eggs is not a viable competitive deck. Try and force it, but it will likely not put up the results you want.
January 6, 2015 4:37 a.m.
I wouldn't build Eggs if you can't get a hold of the Mox Opals and Lotus Blooms, to be quite honest with you. Those cards are both way too good not to play. Trying to operate the deck without them is going to lead to a lot of lost games because you couldn't go off before Infect, Zoo, Burn, Affinity, or another combo deck killed you first.
If you already own Eggs that Draw, I would strongly recommend trying to get a set of Mox Opals. You'll find the deck becomes a lot easier to pilot properly when you have them.
January 6, 2015 8:17 a.m.
Eggs can be quite competitive. Versus Zoo or Affinity, it is a pure race (oftentimes with Affinity it comes down to the coin flip), and Burn is only particularly bad if they have Eidolon online. Which is why you run Echoing Truth in the board. Storm is another race (Silence is perfect for breaking the combo right in the middle - oh boy is that satisfying!), but since they only have the rare turn three kill, it is not impossible. On the play, without Goblin Electromancer online, you win, oftentimes.
The worst matchups aren't even fast, aggressive, or otherwise janky decks. Historically, it has been Jund, Junk, The Rock - Thoughtseize decks. Game one, they play too fair for our unfairness, and we often lose unless we are lucky or they are inexperienced in the matchup. Leyline of Sanctity seals that leak, though it is quite expensive, and with good reason!
Control can also be bad, but it takes them knowing what to counter and how. Render Silent is probably worst for us, but no one plays it - too distracted by Counterflux. Mana Leak probably makes second worst; it's a trap. Pay or don't, you probably can't go off now, depending on what else they have up.
Regarding Mox Opal: It is very good. I will not argue. But it is much better in a Krark-Clan Ironworks build than a Third Breakfast build, since it doesn't pop itself or draw a card. In TheGrayMerchant's build, KCI is at a comfortable 2-of; enough to be useful, but not the point. I feel that deck is better served without them.
January 6, 2015 10:09 a.m.
My apologies, I misspoke - Hatebears is worse than Rock. Rock actually isn't so bad most of the time, but when we can't deal with around two Thoughtseize effects we basically die. Sometimes just too slow to beat Goyf. Affinity is worse than I made it out to be - you essentially can't win on the draw. And on the play is hard. Twin is also sketchy - one the play, you better turn-four them; on the draw, pray you can turn-three them. There's a good post about matchups here. And this is even pre-banning of Second Sunrise, so I expect the top comment is only more and more accurate than it was before.
January 6, 2015 10:51 a.m.
TheGrayMerchant says... #19
The reason I chose not to do full-on KCI eggs is that I have never playtested a KCI build. Just want to stay in familiar territory.
Mox Opal - it's $50...but it might see reprinting in modern masters, so I may get one if I'm really lucky.
Also, my build above seems clunky. Need to clean it up.
zyphermage says... #2
Uhm well do people play eggs anymore without Second Sunrise?
January 4, 2015 10:05 p.m.