Bx Eldrazi Decks: Hype or the Real Deal?
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Posted on Jan. 13, 2016, 11:43 a.m. by CanadianShinobi
So, as of late there seems to be an emergence of new Bx Eldrazi decks. While this is all relatively exciting, I'm somewhat skeptical. Are these decks merely the flavour of the month, or do they possess legitimacy in the Modern format?
CanadianShinobi says... #3
JWiley129 I've yet to see a rendition of the deck with Heartless Summoning do you have a link to one? I've been considering investing in the deck. It isn't control, but there's something appealing about playing Eldrazi outside of RG Tron.
January 13, 2016 12:03 p.m.
Here's the heartless eldrazi list that was played at the SCG Open this past weekend. It's capable of some really obscene plays.
January 13, 2016 12:06 p.m.
Serra_Sentinel says... #5
After actually playing it, and seeing it in action in an open, it's fairly versatile and can come back from what seems like unwinnable board states. That being said, I think it'll stick around, at least for a while, but, it won't overpower Twin in the meta.
That's just one man's opinion, though : )
January 13, 2016 12:07 p.m.
My big concern is that with OGW coming out, and it having colorless all-stars in Thought-Knot Seer and Reality Smasher, that it will be put under a bit of a spotlight. Playing a T2 Thought-Knot Seer into a T3 Reality Smasher is a real curve and is VERY terrifying.
EDIT - Here is the video deck tech on the Heartless Eldrazi list.
January 13, 2016 12:12 p.m. Edited.
mathimus55 says... #7
Yea, the deck I think will be the "real deal" moving forward, which is awesome because it's just another viable deck for modern to add into the mix. The BW version I've heard is probably the best since it has access to Lingering Souls and Path to Exile along with all the nonsensical Eldrazi plays. I personally haven't played any of the varieties yet, but Zac Elsik(of the lantern control pioneer fame/notoriety) has put lots of time into it. I'd check out his Twitter for more on it.
January 13, 2016 12:37 p.m.
CanadianShinobi says... #8
Well, it certainly is interesting... I may experiment with a U/B version, but I am partial to the Mono-Black version over the W/B.
January 13, 2016 1:20 p.m.
CanadianShinobi - Here is a few UB builds that may pique your interest.
January 13, 2016 1:44 p.m.
Servo_Token says... #10
I've been on the deck for the last month, primarily playing the BW version. The deck can have some bad draws, but it can also get itself out of a lot of bad situations. Sometimes you just topdeck an Oblivion Sower and steal five lands to cast a Blight Herder in the face of lethal from your midrange opponent.
The deck is just above fair in terms of play, similar to tron, and I believe that it has the power to stick around for good. It is certainly too capable of getting wins to be a flash in the pan, and I am yet to find a really good way to just take the deck out. It doesn't even die to blood moon, which I believe gives it the chance to be a real contender.
January 13, 2016 2:27 p.m.
CanadianShinobi says... #11
DevoidMage I would have thought that Blood Moon would pose significant problems for the deck.
January 13, 2016 2:52 p.m.
CanadianShinobi - Well, when most of your spells can be cast with any type of mana, Blood Moon doesn't really hurt you that bad. Plus with the discard package of Thoughtseize and Inquisition of Kozilek, you would be able to stop any Blood Moon opening hands.
January 13, 2016 3:13 p.m.
GoldGhost012 says... #13
Not to mention that Oblivion Sower is amazing at getting you extra lands from your opponent. With Blood Moon or the Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoths the decks run, even taking nothing but off-color fetches from your opponent is value.
January 13, 2016 3:19 p.m. Edited.
Tomazinhal says... #14
If playing in U/B Eldrazi you can use Delay as a protection and REAL Counterspell while giving food for cast triggers.
January 13, 2016 5:15 p.m.
Serra_Sentinel says... #15
In this sense, it would actually be a strictly better Counterspell.
January 13, 2016 5:34 p.m.
The thing that the eldrazi deck tends to lose to is (ironically) BWx decks like BW tokens which both have access to Leyline of Sanctity and hand disruption like Thoughtseize. Since the eldrazi deck is a little slow to get off the ground, it is also pretty weak to heavy control strategies like Mono-U Tron, which consistently stop the opponent from being able to resolve large threats.
Heavy land destruction also slows the deck down, but there are not enough decks that are shut down by LD for it to be a staple in modern, which is what allows Eldrazi Control to exist.
Is the deck here to stay? Depends; is it so powerful in its current state that we all HAVE TO start running cards like Ghost Quarter? I don't think it's that powerful, or at least not yet, which means that for now it is here to stay.
January 13, 2016 7:34 p.m.
Servo_Token says... #17
Oh yeah, the deck just scoops to the card vault of the archangel.
Delay might be a thing that makes me consider going ub in the future. Seems real good
January 14, 2016 12:01 a.m.
Tomazinhal says... #18
Were you being sarcastic? Why is it that it scoops to a land?
I think I would go UB at the moment. "Delaying" spells and being able to use scalding tarns which aren't mine sounds very appealing.
Either that or green for ancient stirrings. Who doesn't want to lol at top 5 and almost be able to choose any of them.
January 14, 2016 2:15 p.m.
Servo_Token says... #19
Any deck playing Vault of the Archangel also typically has Lingering Souls and a bunch of other little dudes that they use the land on to make into legitimate threats. I don't know when the last time you tried attacking your 10/10 into a 1/1 deathtouch was, but it doesn't end well. You literally need to ulamog that land away or they will kill anything you put on the board and then kill you to death with little 1/1 flying lifelink gnats.
JWiley129 says... #2
It's probably part flavor of the month and part that it does some really unfair things. The deck can consistently cast a Blight Herder on turn 3 and make the three Scions! Now the newest incarnation of the deck with Heartless Summoning can cast Kozilek's Channeler on turn 3 and power out the larger Eldrazi much faster.
That and the deck has some game against combo b/c of the hand-attack, while making it very difficult for other decks to attack on a fair axis.
January 13, 2016 11:56 a.m.