[Community Discussion]: Modern Chat
Modern forum
Posted on April 25, 2015, 8:42 p.m. by Epochalyptik
This thread is dedicated entirely to Modern. Feel free to post your thoughts on the meta, ideas for your next decklist, and just chat generally about the format!
Of course, you can always start a new thread if you're interested in discussing one particular aspect of the format; this thread should be used for the quick thoughts and informal questions about the format.
This discussion will be ongoing; you are free to post here as long as you're on topic.
This is NOT a deck help thread. Please do not spam deck help requests.
APPLE01DOJ says... #3
Needs more jellyfish tribal for sure.
Bahumbug@mermaids... zombie tribal is viable too.
April 26, 2015 12:02 a.m.
Controller101 says... #4
@DERPLINGSUPREME I've finished Turbo-Frog. I haven't added the sideboard yet.
April 26, 2015 12:03 a.m.
I am building an enchantress deck. It is fun to see your opponents bewildered typing when you play Guard Duty.
It is here
April 26, 2015 12:13 a.m.
No. I have a huge headache and it was a long day.
A rough list will be made tomorrow.
April 26, 2015 12:14 a.m.
Julius_Mufasa says... #12
Oh here's my Elephant Tribal so far: Elephant Fight Club.
April 26, 2015 12:34 a.m.
Not sure I understand the purpose of this thread... Subbing until I figure it out.
April 26, 2015 12:47 a.m.
DERPLINGSUPREME says... #18
oh.
It says that you're....
super nice and awesome for beeing interested in our humble litttle thread.....
April 26, 2015 1:09 a.m.
Well if that was your poor excuse for a cordial invitation, I suggest actually trying next time...
April 26, 2015 1:25 a.m.
DERPLINGSUPREME says... #20
Can you see the picture now? if you can, it now applies.
April 26, 2015 1:27 a.m.
JexInfinite says... #21
God damn, this is in the MODERN forum, so keep it specifically for modern. Take this non-modern related crap to each others' profiles DERPLINGSUPREME, tclaw12.
April 26, 2015 1:41 a.m.
JexInfinite says... #22
Young Pyromancer vs Monastery Mentor in:
Mardu, Jeskai, Naya
April 26, 2015 1:42 a.m.
Femme_Fatale says... #23
Monastery Mentor needs 0 cmc stuff to give it value the moment it comes out. Otherwise, it'll just die way too quickly, unless you are running protection grants like Emerge Unscathed. If that's the case, then you need ramp, otherwise it comes out too late to give any benefit.
April 26, 2015 1:45 a.m.
JexInfinite says... #25
In Mardu, I would say Young Pyromancer. You don't want to drop a Mentor on T3, when you could drop a Pyromancer on T2, and trigger it multiple times on T3. You can't protect either, but on the play, you could Terminate a Goyf on T3 and generate a token for it. With Mentor, you need to hold it, making it worse, or play it out, and wait for it to die.
In Jeskai, you can protect both, but Young Pyromancer is way faster, and you have access to Delver of Secrets Flip, so there's that. Mentor is too slow in Delver.
In Naya, Pyro is still better, but Atarka's Command + Monastery Mentor or Dromoka's Command is really strong. You can use the commands offensively, or defensively, which makes them much more interesting than jamming a command as a Skullcrack. Of course, Pyro is a lot faster, and you can trigger it multiple times on T3.
In short, always play Young Pyromancer over Monastery Mentor if you have the option.
April 26, 2015 1:49 a.m.
Femme_Fatale says... #27
The commands with mentor is interesting, however you'd need to protect it the turn it comes out. Which comes out too late for it to provide benefit. Unless you run ramp, but then you are devoting too much space to try and get mentor to work, and it won't be worth it. So in short, any deck that doesn't run a plethora of 3 cmc stuff, YP>MM
April 26, 2015 1:52 a.m.
DERPLINGSUPREME pic still didn't load, so I'll assume it was something demeaning/borderline racist.
Since I have to contribute something to the Modern discussion -
How does everyone think Infect is positioned atm? Any new SB tech I should be aware of?
April 26, 2015 1:59 a.m.
DERPLINGSUPREME says... #30
iz good, but if you play it you're a jerk. like me.
I'm a jerk
April 26, 2015 2:01 a.m.
It's my brother's deck, but I keep it updated since I pay more attention to "the Meta" as it were.
April 26, 2015 2:05 a.m.
JexInfinite says... #32
DERPLINGSUPREME Why yes, you are.
Infect is not as good as it was at the PT, but still decent. It may be time for BUG Infect to be the main form of infect, because the disruption is really strong, and covers on of the deck's weaknesses. Of course, blue has counterspells for protection, but disruption can attack the opponent's game plan from the beginning.
April 26, 2015 2:06 a.m.
Femme_Fatale says... #34
What are the best cards that utterly demolish today's meta?
The two that come to my mind are: Silent Arbiter and Worship.
April 26, 2015 3:35 a.m.
Femme_Fatale says... #36
That's why I use it in EVERY bant deck I make. ♥
It doesn't work to well against Twin though. Because Cryptic Command.
April 26, 2015 3:45 a.m.
Femme_Fatale says... #37
I'm currently sticking Silent Arbiter in grixis percy midrange-control.
April 26, 2015 3:46 a.m.
My version of burn isnt trading wins with my hatebears.. :( Im either running the wrong colors for tools I want and it isnt worth it.. or Im playing wrong.
Anyone got tips for it?
April 26, 2015 4:46 a.m.
JexInfinite says... #39
Ryotenchi Tell me what your meta roughly looks like compared to the general modern meta.
April 26, 2015 5:08 a.m.
JexInfinite says... #40
Epochalyptik If this thread gives points, we're in a whole world of trouble.
April 26, 2015 6:06 a.m.
quesobueno123 says... #42
So my friend qualified for qn invitational yesterday with u/w control it seems quite good
April 26, 2015 7 a.m.
Final_Origins says... #43
How about bringing Exquisite Blood + Sanguine Bond Lifegain / Burn back again huh? :D
April 26, 2015 7:17 a.m.
JexInfinite says... #44
quesobueno123 Is the list anywhere? I'd like to pass judgment on it.
What is the right split between Rending Volley, Roast and Combust in a mono red deck?
April 26, 2015 7:19 a.m.
I wonder..... Could mill be a slighty competitive deck?
If not.... What cards do you guys think would make it a good deck? :)
April 26, 2015 7:23 a.m.
Femme_Fatale says... #46
Mill is ... eh ... basically it is giving your opponent free reign over you. They can just turn sideways or combo off. That's the main problem with it. In order to stand much of a chance you need to run anti Leyline of Sanctity hate (ie, Esper Charm, OR, mainboarding Echoing Truth), some form of removal to stop Twin, enough disruption to stop RDW, and yet still be able to finish them off.
What does it need? Another Glimpse the Unthinkable, but yet tied onto removal or counterspell. Or even a draw spell. Things like:
Counter target spell with cmc 3 or less. That spell's owner mills 6 cards.
Destroy target creature with cmc 4 or less. That creature's controller mills 6 cards.
Draw 2 cards. Target opponent mills 7 cards.
April 26, 2015 7:52 a.m.
Femme_Fatale says... #47
OR, how about this:
- Dimir Command —
- Instant — Rare
- Choose two:
- Draw 2 cards.
- Counter target spell with converted mana cost 3 or less.
- Destroy target creature with converted mana cost 3 or less.
- Target opponent puts the top 10 cards of his or her library into his or her graveyard.
April 26, 2015 7:55 a.m.
Femme_Fatale says... #48
Or hey, you could actually make that cost 
. Then control would finally have its counterspell and draw spell it needs to put it over the top.
April 26, 2015 7:57 a.m.
FAMOUSWATERMELON says... #49
That, Femme, would be my wet dream :)
Not happening though. And I think mill works decently in the current meta. It could maybe use some Sleep effect, because I've always struggled against the heavy creature base of Abzan.
April 26, 2015 8:25 a.m.
JexInfinite says... #50
Femme_Fatale I would be heavily inclined to make it to make it harder to cast, because for 3 mana, that's really, really good.
It's a command, so you would have to draw a single card, rather than two. Drawing 1 card can justify the cost of . Think Twice is 5 mana for draw 2. Esper Charm has options, but you can only choose one. That 'Dimir Command' would break Grixis Delver. (But damn, then my deck would get an insane power boost.)
Julius_Mufasa says... #1
I think Elves or Goblins could work in modern, maybe not as tier 1/2, but they still work. But really we just need a couple more OP elephants printed in Magic Origins/ BFZ to push Elephant Tribal into Tier 1 Category :D
April 25, 2015 11:57 p.m.