Flusterstorm
would be a great reprint right now.
Modern forum
Posted on Feb. 16, 2017, 2:42 a.m. by KillDatBUG
Think about it. With the Puresteel combo deck running rampant, wouldn't it be great to have a simple answer? Now you might be thinking "But Flusterstorm is a legacy card! Isn't that too powerful for standard and modern?". It wouldn't be for a few key reasons:
Standard is dominated by Mardu Vehicles and B/G. Flusterstorm is an awful card against those decks. In fact, I don't think Flusterstorm would see any real play in Standard if it were to be reprinted.
Modern is a very wide and diverse format. Therfore, Flusterstorm would be really good against Puresteel combo and decent against decks like Griselhoalbrand, but pretty bad against decks like Affinity and Tron.
Flusterstorm is in itself a pretty narrow card. It's little more than a worse Spell Pierce most of the time, only really being useful if you're playing against Storm or if you want to counter their counter on your turn.
And to top it all off, Flusterstorm IS AN EIGHTY DOLLAR CARD. Seriously, that right there is reason enough for a reprint.
1/ In order for Flusterstorm to enter Modern, it has to be printed in a Standard set.
2/ Wizards will not print a storm card in Standard. have you heard of the Storm Scale?
February 16, 2017 3:35 a.m.
KillDatBUG says... #4
I know it has to be printed in a Standard set. That's why I outlined my reasons for why it'd be fine for Standard.
I haven't heard of the Storm scale.
February 16, 2017 4:38 a.m.
It cant be reprinted in standard because of the Storm keyword.
February 16, 2017 6:05 a.m.
The storm scale is a 1-10 scale of keywords and how likely they are to be reused in a Standard Set, that was developed by Mark Rosewater. 10 is never to be reprinted, while 1 is evergreen mechanics that make it into all sets.
An example of 1 is something like flying. Storm mechanic, the namesake of the scale is a solid 10 - a mistake that is not be reprinted, alongside ante, discontinued stuff like landwalk, fear, etc.
February 16, 2017 6:34 a.m.
Altho, they could remove Storm as a keyword and write out "when you cast this spell, copy it for each other spell cast this turn". That way it can be printed without including Storm as a keyword in the set. I doubt this will happen tho..
February 16, 2017 7:26 a.m.
Hjaltrohir says... #8
Lol im pretty sure Sram-Os isn't running 'rampant' in modern. Anyway, an answer like Lightning Bolt, Path to Exile, Fatal Push, Terminate, Abrupt Decay etc. shuts down the combo just fine.
February 16, 2017 8:39 a.m.
Yeah, any instant speed removal shuts the deck down fine. Also Ethersworn Canonist. Or Leyline of Sanctity. Stony Silence is -ok- against Mox Opal. Luminesce is a fun card. These are all just white sideboard cards too, there are many other things that shut the deck down fairly easily.
Also, the deck just isn't very good, is it? I've watched it fizzle more times than not.
February 16, 2017 10:27 a.m.
Also, because the deck is so tight in mana, im sure Spell Pierce is just as good against puresteel storm in a format without FoW
February 16, 2017 11:50 a.m.
TheAnnihilator says... #11
Not to mention that Puresteel Combo could actually USE Flusterstorm haha.
Yeah, but that aside, there's literally no reason to go nerfing Puresteel Combo right now -- it's a fragile deck with interactable combo pieces. It autoloses to Bolt-Snap-Bolt decks, and even just a little interaction can easily slow it down. It'd take a lot to convince me that it needs any sort of remediation.
February 16, 2017 5:34 p.m.
...modern actually has something very similar in Disallow - storm is a triggered ability, so all the hassle of building up high storm count, will still only produce a single copy if this spell is in hand.
And its fast enough for modern.
Flusterstorm is good and needed for legacy because of the fast mana. Thus it should be printed there.
As there is no point to bringing it into modern.
UpperDeckerTaco says... #2
But is that combo really all that powerful? It is similar to that of the Aetherflux Reservoir cheerios deck in standard right now, and I don't see it being that much of a tier 1 deck. It's basically a storm deck that relies on its creatures to filter through the deck to find its 1 of Grapeshot. So basically, while it can be a competitive deck, I don't see it being completely tier 1. Also, running rampant? I am not sure what you mean by that exactly right now as there really hasn't been any tournaments where it is boasting huge success. Now if you're speaking of MTGO, that's a joke because most MTGO metas do not reflect paper magic metas exactly because one of the highest played decks on MTGO for modern is Burn and though it sees some numbers in paper events, not as wide in MTGO. The real reason, the cost of the cards on MTGO are cheaper. Probably the same for this deck. Until I see this deck put up huge success, much like Miracles in Legacy or Tron in Modern, I am not going to jump to conclusions as to request bannings, or unbannings, or reprintings of a certain card to combat this deck just yet.
February 16, 2017 2:59 a.m.