Hand emptying turn 3, worth the sweat in modern?

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Posted on March 25, 2013, 5:48 p.m. by incredibruhahaha

I'm working on a deck that's focused on hand emptying and intense burn (=>5pt/turn).
The earliest it pulls off is turn three, and I'm wondering if it's worth the sweat. The combo works this way (Tuo Deppat for the whole thing):

turn 1 and 2: mana + any combination of Quest for the Nihil Stone /Liliana's Caress
turn 3: One with Nothing + Redirect

watcha think

Demarge says... #2

the turn 3 bit isn't possible. One with Nothing doesn't target a player so Redirect doesn't have a target to change targets.

March 25, 2013 6:02 p.m.

awesome.

March 25, 2013 6:19 p.m.

Epochalyptik says... #4

"You" or "your" in the text of a card always refers to the controller of that card. A spell or ability only targets if it explicitly uses the word target.

March 25, 2013 7:44 p.m.

pumpkinsword says... #5

Turn 3: Tap a swamp for Dark Ritual into Dark Ritual . Tap your other 2 swamps. You have 7 black mana in your mana pool. Cast Wit's End . There's your turn 3. :D

March 25, 2013 8:01 p.m.

tempest says... #6

you need 3 Dark Ritual to get 7 mana and still have 2 more for Redirect . too hard of a combo

March 25, 2013 8:09 p.m.

w999 not quite, for I'd no longer need to push the card towards the other guy. However, I would need two of those Rituals indeed. pumpkinsword has a point there.

March 25, 2013 8:19 p.m.

Epochalyptik says... #8

I don't understand why Redirect is still necessary. You would presumably cast Wit's End targeting your opponent.

March 25, 2013 8:19 p.m.

tempest says... #9

Right. My bad

March 25, 2013 8:35 p.m.

Schuesseled says... #10

slpash red, for Seething Song and Blightning (is there a better red mana ramp, i can't remember.)

March 25, 2013 8:37 p.m.

pumpkinsword says... #11

Seething Song is banned in modern.

March 25, 2013 8:57 p.m.

sylvannos says... #12

Dark Ritual isn't legal in Modern, either.

March 26, 2013 1:57 a.m.

how convenient.

March 26, 2013 5:09 a.m.

nocipher says... #14

April 8, 2013 1 p.m.

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