How to ramp fast

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Posted on June 22, 2020, 6:47 a.m. by dichia

So I add the crazy idea of making a Tribal Plants Deck and I need to cast Avenger of Zendikar as fast as possible. I'm running mono green, and I need suggests on how to ramp. For now I'm running Search for Tomorrow and Explore that has a synergy with Gatecreeper Vine and makes me draw. But I'm not fast enough. Best I could do is six lands turn 3, but in the best case. Usually I'm able to drop seven lands (which is my aim) between turn 4 and 6. If there is a way to achieve that earlier and more often it would be great. Otherwise I will have to go for a more defensive style of play. Thanks for the help.

shadow63 says... #2

Have you tried tron lands? But people usually go Arbor Elf into Utopia Sprawl

June 22, 2020 7:49 a.m.

dichia says... #3

shadow63, those are good ideas, but the problem is not only I need more mana, but I need more lands on the battlefield to make a better use of Avenger of Zendikar. Funkydiscogod I actually discarded Khalni Heart Expedition while I was building the deck, but now that I see your combo I will have to think about including it. I will surely try it, thanks.

June 22, 2020 8 a.m.

dichia says... #5

GoblinElectromancer, I was using Rampant Growth but I changed it for Explore cause it was slow and cause the latter has a better synergy with Gatecreeper Vine. The elves, birds, prism, hierarch give me more mana, but I need more lands. Sakura-Tribe Elder,Sakura-Tribe Scout, Azusa, Lost but Seeking and Arboreal Grazer are good and I already considered them. The problem is that I would need more cards that put lands in my hand. That would be a lot of slots and I don't really know what cards to remove to make space.

June 22, 2020 8:42 a.m.

lagotripha says... #6

Sounds like you need to check out the Life from the Loam or amulet titan primers. They should have engines you can use.

Getting a quick avenger can be achieved by cheating cost with Quicksilver Amulet or Dramatic Entrance.

Theres also the option of building something like Splendid Reclamation, or druidic vow. Getting lots lands onto the battlefield is usually something you have to build the entire deck to support, and the battle is surviving the card disadvantage while doing it quickly.

I did get one pretty quick from an (etb basic land into play) , Wall of Omens Overgrown Battlement flicker wall tribal list, but it's not amazing.

June 23, 2020 5:39 p.m.

dichia says... #7

lagotripha. For now I'm using Early Harvest and I've been able to cast a turn 3 Avenger of Zendikar a couple of times, but I do like Dramatic Entrance. I will probably use it.

I noticed that playing a turn 3 avenger with only 5 lands, is still better than a turn 4 or 5 with 6/7 lands, since it's faster, and starting from turn 4 I can begin buffing the 5 plant tokens. One or two tokens less didn't make a big difference by far.

Also Quicksilver Amulet seems good. I will give it a try.

Life from the Loam and Splendid Reclamation on the other hand don't convince me because I don't get lands in the graveyard in anyway. I don't even use fetchlands since I'm mono-green. Am I missing something?

June 24, 2020 3:53 a.m.

dichia says... #8

Funkydiscogod: I tried Dramatic Entrance, but I still prefer Early Harvest because they both grants me a turn 3 Avenger of Zendikar with 5 lands, but the second one can also help to cast a bigger Genesis Hydra, which needs a lot of mana if I want to find the avenger. Dramatic Entrance wouldn't help with the hydra at all.

The black addition you suggested is really interesting, Vigor Mortis is great! It fits perfectly in the deck. Also, I found some good black or green-black plants creatures that could work.

Also, I was thinking of using abilities like Scavenge, Populate and Proliferate. Sundering Growth will probably go in the sideboard.

June 24, 2020 11:48 a.m.

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