It's exactly as I predicted.
Modern forum
Posted on Feb. 8, 2016, noon by KillDatBUG
Incredible. Eldrazi dominates the Pro Tour, and the only other decks that even come close are Affinity and Infect. One fair Jund deck in what, the top 50... And nothing else but unfair decks like Burn, Company, and Ad Nauseam.
Wizards, you dun fucked up with the Splinter Twin ban. You hear me? YOU FUCKED IT UP.
Ok, so I guess here we go again There were 2 fair Jund decks in the Top 50.
Also, I don't think the Twin ban changed anyone's mind. Eldrazi still would've put up huge numbers. It's just too resilient and consistent, even for twin to deal with.
You should probably check your numbers too before making statements about the top 50. Here is the entire list of the decks that scored 20 points or higher.
28 pts Eldrazi Aggro
28 pts Affinity
27 pts Eldrazi Aggro
27 pts Eldrazi Aggro
27 pts Archangel Chord
27 pts Eldrazi Aggro
25 pts Eldrazi Aggro
25 pts Affinity
25 pts Eldrazi Aggro
24 pts Lantern Control
24 pts Melira Chord
24 pts Bushwhacker Zoo
24 pts Magus Zoo
24 pts Eldrazi Aggro
24 pts Naya Burn
24 pts Jund
24 pts Valakut
24 pts Affinity
24 pts Through the Breach
24 pts Eldrazi Aggro
22 pts Eldrazi Aggro
22 pts Mardu
21 pts Junk
21 pts Jund
21 pts Infect
21 pts Infect
21 pts Infect
21 pts Melira Chord
21 pts Though the Valakut
21 pts Though the Valakut
21 pts UWr Kikki
21 pts Naya Burn
21 pts Naya Burn
21 pts Melira Chord
21 pts Infect
21 pts Naya Burn
21 pts Mardu
21 pts Eldrazi Aggro
21 pts Affinity
21 pts Affinity
21 pts Archangel Chord
21 ptsArchangel Chord
21 pts Affinity
21 pts Affinity
21 pts Ad Nauseam
21 pts Affinity
21 pts Affinity
21 pts Affinity
21 pts Infect
21 pts Blue Moon
21 pts Elves
21 pts Grishoalbrand
21 pts Grixis Delver
21 pts Infect
21 pts Bushwhacker Zoo
21 pts Eldrazi Aggro
21 pts Death Shadow Zoo
21 pts Eldrazi Aggro
21 pts Death's Shadow Zoo
21 pts Eldrazi Aggro
So Burn is unfair? That's new to me. Honestly, yes Eldrazi made up over 60% of the Top 8 but the rest of the meta looks good. Infect is growing in popularity, but I don't think Modern is nearly as bad as everyone is saying.
February 8, 2016 12:19 p.m.
logansullivan says... #5
I really love death's shadow zoo but I really like the other name for it, suicide zoo
February 8, 2016 12:46 p.m.
ninjaclevs13 The Company deck are the decks named Melira Chord -- there were quite a few of them. They use Chord of Calling and Collected Company to abuse the Melira combo. Here's a link to the deck.
February 8, 2016 12:51 p.m.
So one tournament defines the new meta for Modern permanently? There are definitely answers to this new RaidBoss deck known as Eldrazi. Give it time and I think things will settle down and balance can be created.
February 8, 2016 12:53 p.m.
@Reaxetion HAHAHA, I've been saying the same thing. These people make it obvious how butt hurt they are with all these knee-jerk reactions. If this were any other time in magic history most would have simply said.... oh it's just one tournament, gotta prepare for it but lets see how things play out. Since it's immediately following the twin ban though, they have to jump on it and over react like 1 tournament will define the modern format for the rest of it's existence. If not they might have to talk about something other than the banning of Splinter Twin (which they can do nothing to change). It doesn't so much bother me that all the talk is about the ban, at least not when it's people discussing relevant stuff about the meta and the format (i.e. where to go next, what can you try that you didn't before with twin around, etc.). It's all the knee-jerk over reactions of people whining and crying hoping that WotC sees their tears and unbans twin, that's the stuff that I'm getting sick of. Every time you see someone talking about the ban it's almost exclusively to cry and bitch as though they know better than WotC (even though WotC has knowledge of things not even revealed to them). It's almost never to discuss new deck ideas, current archetype rebuilds, or things of that nature. It's never about what is going to benefit from twin being gone, it's just boo hoo I can't play twin anymore. These eldrazi decks would have popped up regardless of the twin ban so when I see people using these tourney results for why twin should have stayed I laugh. I mean the only way they could possibly see it that way is if they had absolutely no knowledge of modern at all and that's why the eldrazi decks surprised them, or their butt hurt about the ban and will use any reason (logical or not) to justify their hurt.
February 8, 2016 2:03 p.m.
logansullivan says... #9
abenz419 do you have a suggestion to combat the eldrazi deck?
February 8, 2016 2:13 p.m.
I'm not going to get into that right now, logansullivan, it's not like as simple as saying run four copies of "card x" and it's better. There's lots of discussion that goes into that, including but not limited to, deck archetype, deck colors, builders budget, and other decks you may face in your local meta. These are all things that will have to be considered when your trying to find an answer and why no one is going to be able to give you a specific "be all" answer to the deck.
My suggestion to you since I just don't have the time to get into it, go and look at the eldrazi decks real hard. Figure out exactly how they work and why they work the way they do. Then, once you understand the deck, identifying it's weaknesses should be much easier for you. Once you know what causes problems for the eldrazi deck, you can start considering current deck archetypes that already take advantage of that. Or, you can create your own deck that utilizes and takes advantage of the things that hinder the eldrazi decks. If you have problems finding specific cards that do what you want, then use gatherer. Modern has a large card pool but on the competitive scene most people play only proven top tier decks. Since variants of the top tier decks are going to look relatively similar with only minor changes only a small portion of the total card pool garners any attention. This means there are literally hundreds of good modern playable cards out there that don't see play simply because the past meta didn't dictate their necessity. The need to stop those eldrazi decks could mean a revival for cards you may not even be aware of yet simply because they weren't apart of the most recent meta. This will help you, not just in finding an answer to the eldrazi decks, but in building all your decks in the future. The more your able to understand the decks you want to beat, the easier it'll be for you to devise a solution.
February 8, 2016 2:47 p.m.
logansullivan says... #12
Thank you for that but I would like to ask how long would that have been if you had got into it?
February 8, 2016 2:50 p.m.
A lot lot lot longer, like I said it's more than just what card can I add to my deck that fixes the problem. Entire decks will need to be broken down and entirely new options considered. We're talking about a project sitting down and putting in the physical work and testing to find an answer. Like I said, no one is going to be able to give you some magical "be all" solution that you can just say put four of those in your deck and things will be fine.
February 8, 2016 3:03 p.m.
It's even worse when you try to brainstorm ways around it, and everyone just says something to this extent, "You can't do that.. It's to slow. It's a bad idea." Offering no, to little input themselves.
So, my only other opinion is everyone just sell all there cards, and buy into Eldrazi. Nobody play anything else, except Eldrazi. Until Wizards actually does something to help modern.
February 8, 2016 3:12 p.m. Edited.
logansullivan says... #16
I would like to point out that there are catch all answers to many tier one decks actually probably every tier one deck and just the fact that the sideboard plan against eldrazi hasn't been found and the cards are still legal the deck is going to be the dominant deck of the format.
February 8, 2016 3:13 p.m.
logansullivan: Sure is! I first heard the idea from JqlGirl on her tumblr account. It shuts down Eye of Ugin's cost-reducing and tutoring effects. And Eldrazi Temple's accelerated mana production for all the deck's creatures.
The only major issue is that it's pretty vulnerable to removal. But then again, most creatures are. If you can find a good way to protect it, I feel like it can be a good sideboard piece against Eldrazi, local meta depending.
February 8, 2016 4:08 p.m.
Yeah, but it's still a piece of removal that they have very early access to. It's part of the reason why I maindeck Apostle's Blessing in Infect, and Brave the Elements in Soul Sisters.
February 8, 2016 4:17 p.m.
And if an Eldrazi player can anticipate you boarding in Painter's Servant, you can bet they're going side on more copies of Dismember or other removal.
February 8, 2016 4:18 p.m.
GotCubes You do realize this was thought of yesterday and it was bought out. It's $30+ now, as opposed to $11 last week. Just FYI. lol
February 8, 2016 4:21 p.m.
logansullivan says... #24
I guess this is mostly relevant to me but as a death and taxes player if he wants to dilute his deck with more removal I don't even need the painter's servants
February 8, 2016 4:23 p.m.
DrFunk27: Everything I love dies! Or at least spikes.
February 8, 2016 5:49 p.m.
GotCubes Haha, I just thought I would let you know. I wanted to pick 4 up for a deck and that went bye bye. haha
Arvail says... #2
Discussions on the topic exist already. C'mon, KillDatBUG. You should know better. Tsk tsk.
February 8, 2016 12:04 p.m.