Lets talk souls...
Modern forum
Posted on Jan. 21, 2015, 4:57 p.m. by gnarlicide
Okay, I am BGx player in modern, as we all know. I fully expect more and more midrange strategies to begin popping up in tournaments.
I like both Jund and Junk decks in modern, but would combining the two be a decent option?
Souls was awesome in the mirror before the DRS ban, and the addition of Ajani Vengeant made things interesting.
Whats the word? would it work in a possible new meta? ChiefBell? 8vomit?
GlistenerAgent says... #3
So long as you've got four Siege Rhino, nothing can go wrong.
I think that playing Ajani Vengeant is a pretty good idea for the next couple of weeks, as he's a good attrition card in the mirror while being excellent against control decks (those probably being the most popular decks following bannings).
January 21, 2015 5:01 p.m.
GlistenerAgent says... #4
Basically. It also had Ajani and some sideboard cards.
January 21, 2015 5:01 p.m.
slovakattack says... #5
Woof. That sounds like it'd be insane with a DRS meta :P
January 21, 2015 5:03 p.m.
gnarlicide says... #6
It was insane with the DRS meta. Now the question is, will I make it a Jund-based deck or a Junk-based deck?
January 21, 2015 5:06 p.m.
GlistenerAgent says... #7
I'd base it on Abzan for now. Lingering Souls is completely nuts, much more so than Anger of the Gods.
January 21, 2015 5:12 p.m.
gnarlicide says... #8
Okay, should I try the red splash for Ajani and some bolts? or is that too ambitious?
January 21, 2015 5:14 p.m.
Maybe just play Abzan with bolt and Ajani.
Goyf, Siege Rhino, Courser of Kruphix?, Bolt, Decay, Thoughtseize, Inquisition, Lingering, Ajani, Liliana,
January 21, 2015 5:26 p.m.
GlistenerAgent says... #10
That sounds pretty good. Have fun never losing to an aggro deck. :)
January 21, 2015 5:27 p.m.
A midrange deck with a lifegain subtheme with a strong removal package and planeswalkers providing long term attrition.
January 21, 2015 5:27 p.m.
GlistenerAgent - The manabase will be brutal. Traditionally RGBW loses hard to aggro due to a difficulty stabilising and a MASSIVE dependence on fetches.
January 21, 2015 5:28 p.m.
gnarlicide says... #13
Okay, now we're talkin'. I am feeling it. Now to figure out my manabase.
this may take a while
January 21, 2015 5:29 p.m.
slovakattack says... #14
Rhino and Courser might help with that mana base.
I wouldn't play more than 2 courser, but you may want to go for 3-4 rhino.
January 21, 2015 5:30 p.m.
I think the top decks will be something like -
Affinity, Zoo, Storm, Burn/RDW, BG/x, Tron, Twin, Jeskai Control, Scapeshift.
To a lesser extent I expect Merfolk, Delver, Hatebears, Azorius Control, and perhaps even Bloom Titan.
January 21, 2015 5:31 p.m.
gnarlicide says... #16
I suppose 1 copy of Blood Crypt, mountain and Stomping ground?
Fetches would be Verdant Catacombs x4, Arid Mesa, Windswept Heath?
January 21, 2015 5:31 p.m.
slovakattack says... #17
And beneath it all, the shadow of Gifts Ungiven shall linger....
muhuhuhu....
January 21, 2015 5:32 p.m.
I'd go heavy emphasis on green for your fetches. GB / GR / GW?
Your creature base and at least some of your removal package all relies on G. The red stuff literally only has one red symbol. So does white.
January 21, 2015 5:35 p.m.
GlistenerAgent says... #21
I imagine Storm, Zoo and Tron take a back seat for a while. They just won't have the power to compete in a wide-open format.
The fetchlands should likely be geared towards green. Definitely four Verdant Catacombs, 2-3 Wooded Foothills, 2-3 Marsh Flats, 1-2 Bloodstained Mire by my reckoning. You want GG for Courser and GBW for Rhino as well as RW for Ajani.
January 21, 2015 6:02 p.m.
Unforgivn_II says... #22
I'd definitely throw in some Grove of the Burnwillows if we're going 4 color. A dual land that enters untapped and doesn't hurt you will be great, and the lifegain shouldn't matter when you're bashing in with big dudes
January 21, 2015 6:07 p.m.
gnarlicide says... #24
boom. any manlands I should think of? or is Stirring Wildwood good enough?
January 21, 2015 6:14 p.m.
fluffybunnypants says... #26
The main issue with manlands in the current deck you are building is that they aren't fetchable at all. While you want heavy attrition, I'm not sure that I would attempt to swing it on four color midrange. I mean, maybe a one or two of.... max.
January 21, 2015 6:22 p.m.
gnarlicide says... #28
Okay, I know the forum says no decklists, but I can't help it.
Drum roll please...
January 21, 2015 6:33 p.m.
gnarlicide says... #29
Goddamn it. nevermind. My deck is also called Red Junk. Apparently this guy keeps old standard decks on his page...
SO on my page I have a deck called red junk... check it out if you would like. I think I may have gotten a shell to work with here.
Let me know what you guys would do to make it work. If it looks too shitty just tell me that it won't work, so I can go back to Junding as usual, or junking... whichever seems fit.
January 21, 2015 6:37 p.m.
gnarlicide says... #30
here, how about this:
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/21-01-15-red-junk/
I am a retard and do not know how to link this.
January 21, 2015 6:38 p.m.
slovakattack says... #31
I wouldn't run Scooze mainboard, and I would get rid of Inquisition of Kozilek (put 2 mainboard, fill out your set of Thoughtseize.)
Complete your set of bolt, and up the path count.
January 21, 2015 6:41 p.m.
I think scooze is super super important to this deck but I completely disagree with the use of pte in attrition.
January 21, 2015 6:44 p.m.
slovakattack says... #33
ChiefBell: PtE is one of the few things that Rhino doesn't dodge, which is going to be extremely important in the upcoming meta.
January 21, 2015 6:46 p.m.
If you want manlands, I would definitely opt in favor of Treetop Village. It's only 1 color, but it's your most important color and it's really cheap to activate for a strong body. Also faces non-fetchability, but I think it's the best option if you want a manland.
January 21, 2015 7:11 p.m.
GlistenerAgent says... #35
Path to Exile shouldn't be in your midrange deck, period. It's far too disadvantageous, and you have access to Terminate and Dismember to kill stuff.
January 21, 2015 7:17 p.m.
Unforgivn_II says... #36
January 21, 2015 7:45 p.m.
I like the idea of the deck a lot, and was actually thinking of building it just a few days ago. The mana base was my only concern.
But I will say this, I played in a GPT maybe 9 months ago, and ''Ajundi'' came in 1st place. This was before we even had the new fetches available. So the land base could only be more solid at this point. I think its definitely a viable deck, 4 color super good stuff.
slovakattack says... #2
What was the combination? Basically Jund, with lingering souls?
January 21, 2015 5:01 p.m.