Leyline Hate in BR
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Posted on Jan. 28, 2020, 8:37 a.m. by sergiodelrio
Hi folks. & are supposed to be the weakest colors regarding enchantment removal. Does anyone here happen to know a workaround in B, R, or colorless especially against Leylines or enchantments in general (post board). Leylines are particularly annoying, as they come down on turn 0 and thus can't be thoughtseized. If you know some technique please share.
Thanks!
They're quite slow, but Ratchet Bomb and Blast Zone work.
It may not be applicable for your deck, but Tron-ish decks have a bunch of options: Oblivion Stone, All Is Dust, Karn Liberated, Spine of Ish Sah, and probably others .
Another option of course, depending on just how bad you need to kill the Leyline: Splash Green for Assassin's Trophy, Nature's Claim, etc.
Good luck!
January 28, 2020 11:09 a.m.
sergiodelrio says... #5
As I need it for a fast aggro-combo deck, the options you listed are definitely too slow. Might actually have to splash G or W
January 28, 2020 11:13 a.m.
probably too slow, but if the worry is leyline of the void you could always try Pharika's Libation
January 28, 2020 11:33 a.m.
In B/R, it's typically going to be easier to pack some sort of alternative win-con rather than trying to have an answer for a turn 0 enchantment that hoses your strategy. Sometimes the opponent won't have it turn 0 and you will win far more easily. Other times... fall back on whatever alternative you pick.
Speaking from experience though, you don't get a free 3-4 turns just to figure out how to remove a bothersome enchantment when you're playing combo. You're dead by then.
January 28, 2020 7:40 p.m.
ToolmasterOfBrainerd says... #8
It took me a few years to realize this, but your deck does not actually have to account for every possible matchup or situation. You're better off cutting your losses against fringe cards. Sure, you could sideboard 2-3 Ratchet Bomb, but you're better off using those 3 sideboard spots to shore up narrow matchups which are more common.
If you are already playing fetch lands, and your combo relies on having a graveyard, then it is probably worthwhile to splash one Overgrown Tomb or Stomping Ground (depending on your deck) for Assassin's Trophy. It's a very versatile answer.
January 28, 2020 9:37 p.m.
dingusdingo says... #10
As mentioned already, using fetches in tandem with shocklands can give you the color availability to SB cards like Assassin's Trophy or Fragmentize or whatever.
Something I have seen which hasn't been mentioned is using the new Horizon lands to help shore up weaknesses. We have 6/10 of the color pairings, with entirely enemy color pairings besides Horizon Canopy. This is a pretty low-cost (deckbuilding as well as $$$) way to increase your color availability, and the lands turn into draws later in the game, even in match ups where you don't need the color access the land is still useful. Is it worth the 1 pain everytime? Hard to say without seeing a deck list. I will say though burn has had a glorious time slotting in 2x Sunbaked Canyon and 2x Fiery Islet to the MB, maybe consider Sunbaked Canyon or Nurturing Peatland for
ToolmasterOfBrainerd says... #2
Are there any decks in particular that use leylines that you're struggling against? Or any leylines in particular that we causing you problems?
January 28, 2020 10:13 a.m.