Liliana of the Veil

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Posted on July 6, 2013, 9:36 p.m. by APPLE01DOJ

Can someone please link me to a deck built around Liliana of the Veil that really utilizes her. Just trying to see an example of how she's best put to work.

Epochalyptik says... #2

She's a popular advantage generator in Jund because Jund is basically a pile of advantage generators that steamroll everything.

Jon Stern's Jund (7th place, GP Toronto 2013)
Dan Jordan's Jund (8th place, GP Toronto 2013)

July 6, 2013 9:43 p.m.

Epochalyptik says... #3

Admittedly, I don't know the format as well as I should. However, she isn't really a "build-around" card. She's best as a support card in a deck that, by design, can leverage the abilities to maintain tempo and advantage.

July 6, 2013 9:44 p.m.

Darkness1835 says... #4

She's also great in tempo, as she is essentially a Cruel Edict for 3 that the opponent then has to deal with to stop from recurring. Her ultimate is good, but to maximize value and be worth playing for her ultimate, you'd need a deck that doesn't mind dropping a card in the graveyard every turn. Otherwise, she kills a creature and buys you a turn.

July 6, 2013 10:05 p.m.

Unforgivn_II says... #5

I've seen some pretty gnarly mono-black discard decks that empties your hand ASAP and wins with stuff like The Rack , Shrieking Affliction , and Quest for the Nihil Stone . Of course, you'd need to drop $200 into a playset of Thoughtseize and another 30 for Inquisition of Kozilek

July 6, 2013 10:13 p.m.

APPLE01DOJ says... #6

well I understand the price of the playsets for those cards, I'm trying to figure out why a playset of Liliana runs 160$

and yea, if it helps, was thinking mono black - modern.

July 7, 2013 12:02 a.m.

APPLE01DOJ says... #7

I guess the +1 is the main issue, the other 2 abilities make sense.

I imagine it could pair with Lotleth Troll but surely there is something out there much much better.

July 7, 2013 12:08 a.m.

Unforgivn_II says... #8

If you really don't like discarding, Veilborn Ghoul is your guy

July 7, 2013 1:05 a.m.

Darkness1835 says... #9

If you're looking modern, Vengevine and Bloodghast are both fantastic.

July 7, 2013 3:30 p.m.

APPLE01DOJ says... #10

so can any one just link me to a deck that kicks ass because of her?

July 8, 2013 4:23 a.m.

Rayenous says... #11

The first post linked 2 of them.

July 8, 2013 8:42 a.m.

APPLE01DOJ says... #12

but they're jund. :/

could someone please link a mono-black deck that utilizes her to her full potential.

July 8, 2013 12:56 p.m.

Unforgivn_II says... #13

Mono B - 8Rack 2.0

Its not mine, but I sure like it.

July 8, 2013 1:01 p.m.

sabrepaisan says... #14

Im gonna start using her in my suspended animation deck. There're plenty of times when getting things into the graveyard help you instead of hurting. My deck is grixis though. I use her to pitch legends to the grave to reanimate with Goryo's Vengeance

July 10, 2013 9:48 a.m.

gufymike says... #15

APPLE01DOJ the answer about the price is quite simple, she's versatile enough to be a staple in legacy, modern and standard at this moment and is a mythic rare that's out of print. Once she rotates out of standard, expect prices on her to drop as the market floods with her from standard only players selling off/trading off their play sets. Though she'll rise quickly.

She is also versatile enough to be ran in multiple types of decks that run black, not just jund, esper loves her also.

July 10, 2013 10:45 a.m.

Barandis says... #16

Modern is a format where the decks that play her can easily play her on turn 2, and getting out a turn 2 Liliana can slow pretty much any opponent down by a lot. That's the biggest reason for the price, given that Modern is the format where she's played the most. Among popular/winning decks only Jund really uses her, but that's enough when she adds so much to Jund. (Just imagine if Bloodbraid Elf was still around to cascade into her.)

The other reason is the changes to the rules that come into effect this weekend. Every planeswalker benefits, but I don't think any planeswalker benefits more than Liliana. Suddenly the fact that you can't kill her off and replay her in less than three turns (-2, +1, -2) goes away, and that only encourages players who play her to make her an automatic 4-of since two copies in hand are now actually desirable. Hence more demand.

July 12, 2013 9:23 a.m.

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