Modern Masters II?
Modern forum
Posted on Feb. 9, 2014, 10:33 p.m. by 8vomit
Do you guys think they will make another modern masters set? I personally loved MM, and would love to see MM2. They could print stuff like Bitterblossom
and Noble Hierarch
so that they weren't so damn expensive. So, do you want another MM? Do you think there will be another MM set? What cards would you hope to see in it?
Thanks!
Yes. Modern is the format they have repeatedly stated they are supporting and with the huge success of the first Modern Masters it's extremely likely they will follow up. Best guess is sometime 2015. As fetch lands continue to skryrocket out of reach, they will have to reprint either the Zendikar or Onslaught lands anyways.
February 9, 2014 10:40 p.m.
They don't necessarily "have" to reprint anything strictly based on price, though I suspect the Zendikar fetches will be talked over in R&D.
February 9, 2014 10:42 p.m.
Servo_Token says... #5
I can also both see it happening and get behind it, though I wouldn't think that it would drop until sometime in the next couple of years. I mean, there's pushing Modern, and then there's just handing good cards to everyone (Which they also seem keen on doing lately). I really don't see it being called Modern Masters 2 either. Seems even too gimmicky for wizards.
I would love to see some of the big planeswalkers in the set. Lili, Gideon, Ajani vengeant...
I'd also love to be able to draft delver in the set, though I think that was printed too recently to make the cut.
February 9, 2014 10:43 p.m.
I would really like to see the Onslaught fetches in standard, i feel like that is the only way they would be reprinted.
February 9, 2014 10:48 p.m.
If WotC wants to keep Modern from being the new Legacy they will be forced to reprint the duals at some point. Not being subject to the reserve list will help keep the format alive, but within the next 3 years I suspect fetch lands will see some sort of reprint. They could even reprint them in Standard after the Shocklands rotate.
February 9, 2014 10:50 p.m.
blackmarker90 says... #8
They may do it as Theros rotates out with M16 or the like
February 9, 2014 10:53 p.m.
I said duals but I meant fetch lands. Sorry, I have Legacy on the brain. lol Yes, I could see M15 or M16 as a good time to do this.
February 9, 2014 11:01 p.m.
Fetches in a core set? i would be surprised to see that.
February 9, 2014 11:08 p.m.
Smith_and_Tonic says... #11
I mean they could do one in the future but not any time soon. Of course they want to make more people get in to modern but they're probably going to reprint the modern bombs in new sets for a few years, and then have a modern masters 2 in 5 or so years.
February 9, 2014 11:12 p.m.
the3rdH0kage says... #13
The Innistrad ones (Lili, Snappy, Geist) would be a cool thing in MM2. But other then MM2 reprints I eally can't think of anything but I'm not that familiar with the Modern meta as I need too be.
February 10, 2014 12:22 a.m.
RoarMaster says... #14
Although I agree with DoctorFunk that they will probably have to reprint the fetch lands at some point, at the same time WotC has plainly stated that they are trying to move away from land search like that, so they may just make some other form of mana smoothing lands instead.
February 10, 2014 2:06 a.m.
thebatman19 says... #15
A modern masters 2 is more than likely already being worked on, and wizards confirmed that they will reprint the fetch lands. They've also stated that all duel lands moving forward would be all 10 duel cycles so it looks like the onslaught fetches would also be reprinted.
February 10, 2014 3:28 a.m.
Fulminator Mage , Damnation , and Glimpse the Unthinkable are some more bombs id like to see in a MM2 set
February 10, 2014 10:45 a.m.
8vomit Glimpse is not terribly out of price range. I found it quite easy to buy my way into the play set I use in BUG mill and traded for the ones I couldn't afford. Its only around 20 or so a piece.
Though I would love to see Damnation get a reprint as was as Fulminator Mage. Noble Hierarch would be an amazing reprint. Honestly just for value sake I would like another print of Wrath just because all the singles are getting old as hell and beat up.
February 22, 2014 4:47 a.m.
The big ones I think everyone wants to see are:
- Fulminator Mage
- Damnation
- Glimpse the Unthinkable (all three as 8vomit stated)
- Zendikar Fetches
- Bitterblossom
- Noble Hierarch
- Remand
- Sakura-Tribe Elder
- Scapeshift
- Serum Visions
- Sleight of Hand
- Bloodghast
- Eldrazi (All Is Dust , It That Betrays , etc.)
- Amulet of Vigor
- Vengevine
- Bloom Tender
- Aven Mindcensor
- Wild Nacatl
- Worldwake Manlands
- Inquisition of Kozilek
- Crucible of Worlds
...all off the top of my head, and that doesn't include anything after Zendikar block. A MMA2 would be a good set for WotC to release, IMO.
February 22, 2014 5:56 a.m.
A lot of the mentioned cards are not terribly hard to get a hold of. At least not for my local area. And for a reasonable price too. Also noticed a lot from the same block and god I hope its more spread out than that. I don't want the Eldrazi reprinted period. At least not for a while. I think the price they are at is viable for what they do in Modern. Make them more available or cheaper and then it gets stupid. Granted most of the Eldrazi are easy enough to deal with, given the right deck. If you draw it. That being said I would like a reprinted Tron set just because I love Tron. But I would love to see a price drop on some of them like Crucible of Worlds and Noble Hierarch . Fetch lands are great and all but I don't use them but I suppose if the price were lowered and in the right deck it could be awesome.
February 22, 2014 7 a.m.
If I was wizards I would be worried about the price of fetches, they want new players to get into modern, but the lands you almost need to run in any multicolor deck are over 40 dollars apiece. That doesn't sound very inviting.
February 24, 2014 9:42 a.m.
SharuumNyan says... #22
The Onslaught fetches will have to be reprinted in Standard or they won't be Modern legal. I doubt they'll be in a core set because the core sets focus on mainly mono-colored stuff. If we don't see them in the 'Huey' block I'll be disappointed.
Reprinting the fetches probably won't cause them to drop in price. MM didn't make Tarmogoyf fall in price, but it did allow more people to get a hold of them through opening packs and trading.
February 24, 2014 9:58 a.m.
I bet we see Onslaught fetches in the Huey block. Without shocks they are totally cool for standard. And maybe the zendikar fetches in a MM2 Esc thing.
But lets face it. Modern will not appeal to new players unless they can walk into a lgs and buy some packs with chances of pulling decent cards (mma). However, releasing limited product will help lower the price for a little more experienced players to buy into the format. I love modern so I would like to see them reprint some key cards and allow it to grow. I am tired of my friends not being able to play with me due to cost.
February 24, 2014 8:46 p.m.
SharuumNyan says... #24
The fetches also make sense in Huey because having powerful duals like the fetches will help even out the low-powered scry lands and prevent Standard from becoming a much slower format when the shocks rotate out.
I'm hoping the Zendikar ones will be reprinted in Standard as well. Since they were last printed before Modern was a format, it may as well have been an eternity ago! I traded all of mine away because I'm not a Legacy player and didn't see the point of keeping them. If only life came with scry...
February 24, 2014 9:12 p.m.
"If only life cam with scry" I LOVE IT! haha. I totally agree a full reprint in standard would be the absolute best.
February 24, 2014 9:34 p.m.
going back to what thebatman19 said about dual lands coming in cycles of 10, ive heard the same thing several times. So im goig to keep my fingers crossed and hope they put all 10 fetches in the next block. it would be nice after the rotation of shocks, and new players would totally be able to get fetches and play modern. Fetches are wayy too expensive right now. like come on...50$ for a verdant catacomb? i thought they were expensive when they were at 35, how the hell is a new player supposed to build a modern land base now? I think fetch land reprints in standard would be a real smart move for wizards right now.
February 24, 2014 10:03 p.m.
SharuumNyan says... #27
It's hard to say what a reprinting of the fetches will do to the prices in the short term. On the one hand, the extra availability could have a Mutavault effect, where they'll drop to $25-$30 for a few months, then go back up again. Or, they could race up in price as lots of people might see this as an opportunity to get into Modern and create more demand. Either way, when a rare card is played in three formats, a reprinting isn't going to hold down the price for long, if at all.
We'll also probably see Standard players dragon-hoarding them until after rotation to make a premium profit.
February 24, 2014 10:24 p.m.
yeah that would be me, dragon hoarding. If we ever saw fetch reprtints.
February 24, 2014 10:35 p.m.
Necrotesque says... #30
WotC works on the blocks 2 full years before they are actually released, so I highly doubt we'll see a fetch reprint in Khans of Tarkir. And second, as mentionned before, if they are reprinted in Standard, players from 3 constructed formats will want them, bringing prices to a level I think many of us are underestimating. As for the MM2, if the point is to bring down prices, look at Bob and Goyf, didnt worked so well...
June 26, 2014 3:32 p.m.
Wizards underestimated the popularity increase for Modern that came from Modern Masters. Theoretically, if Modern had stayed the same popularity, those prices would've gone down.
Supply & demand.
June 26, 2014 3:39 p.m.
Yeah it's pretty absurd. I strictly play casual because I find the limitations of Standard to be silly and the cost of modern to be staggering.
It's a groan inducing paradox. I don't have the cash on hand to constantly buy bajillions of new cards to stay up with standard but neither do I have the money to spend $1000 on one deck. Seriously... 3 new sets have debuted since I started playing and it's not even been a year. I don't mind spending money but in either case that's a lot of money
I would really appreciate a reprint of the fetches.
June 27, 2014 3:14 p.m.
Servo_Token says... #33
Modern's only expensive if you make it expensive.
The difference between tier one and two in modern is significantly less than that of standard. Pretty much any tier two strategy will only run you up to $300, and will be just as viable as a tier one build if you know what you're doing with it.
There's also plenty of budget options for Modern that are completely viable. Just put some effort into it.
June 27, 2014 3:21 p.m.
OH really...? Maybe I'm jumping to conclusions too fast. I just assumed there were only two styles of decks: competitive decks and not-competitive decks.
Thanks for the words of encouragement. Maybe I'll end up falling into modern after all. I will at least have a second look into tier two strategies.
Any particular tier two modern decks you would recommend looking at? My favorite decks to play in the past have been GW populate, BR budget Rakdos, and a fun-when-it-worked chromanticore deck.
June 27, 2014 3:43 p.m.
Servo_Token says... #35
Soul Sisters / BW Tokens is the go-to budget deck for modern. Lingering Souls , Soul Warden , and some disruption spells like Path to Exile and Thoughtseize .
However, there are many other modern lists that are even more budget-oriented; Mono Green Devotion, Mono Blue Tron, Mono Black 8-rack, Mono Red Burn, Jund Assault Loam, Zoo Sans-Goyf, Storm, Living End, Eggs, Reanimator (to a degree), Owling Mine, the list is quite extensive.
June 27, 2014 4:27 p.m.
RavePossum says... #36
@jraynor: I was looking into modern so I bought the Modern event deck. I hightly recommend it. You can pick it up on Ebay for like $50! B/W tokens is super fun and surprisingly competitive, even straight out of the box. I've done quite well at the Modern nights I've gone to at my LGS.
Upgrades for the deck are fairly cheap too. You can trade the Sword of Feast and Famine for a card that works better in the deck, like Thoughtseize . Then you just have to pick up 3 more Thoughtseizes and 4 Godless Shrine s, and you're pretty much done upgrading it, depending on which direction you want to take the deck. Hero of Bladehold is an awesome card for the deck and you can pick those up really cheap right now. Same with Elspeth, Knight-Errant (thanks to the reprint in the event deck) and Elspeth Tirel .
zandl says... #2
It makes sense for a number of reasons, possibly the two biggest being that they left out a lot of popular Modern cards in Modern Masters and they made a shit-ton of money on it the first time around.
February 9, 2014 10:38 p.m.