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Posted on July 18, 2013, 11:15 p.m. by beewithdirtypaws
hi, im new to the modern format and would like to start plaing in it. Is there any deck styles that are easy to play and somewhat budgeted?
Smith_and_Tonic says... #4
The decks that win the most drive up the demand for the cards in the deck, so typically a winning deck has more expensive cards. I agree with MagicMike69 though. Red deck wins is the lowest budget but can still be competitive. There are many different ways to build a Red-deck-wins deck though, so do some research.
July 18, 2013 11:30 p.m.
gnarlicide says... #5
I built an awesome melira pod deck with only 60 bucks, granted I traded for a bunch of them, but I only put 60 bones into it.
July 18, 2013 11:45 p.m.
I'm also just getting into modern and am going with a cheap death and taxes list that I plan on slowly turning into g/w hatebears or even pod. You might want to try out the same when wanting to slowly get into the format. Pick a good deck that you want to build and then find a deck that uses quite a few of the same cards, but is cheaper.
July 18, 2013 11:48 p.m.
Well, I'm completely biased here, but a mono-white token deck is pretty good, and they're budget too.
July 18, 2013 11:50 p.m.
Rdw is the cheapest tier 1.5 deck you can have in modern that can consistently hold its own. And without fetches its super cheap.
Rdw cut fetches for more mountains and Dragonskull Summit and you will be golden
July 19, 2013 12:07 a.m.
RDW and Soul Sisters are probably the cheapest, but probably the cheapest really good deck is Living End. It does use fetches, but it tends to use a playset of the cheapest one (Verdant Catacombs , at around $30 each) and uses mostly commons otherwise. The most expensive card otherwise is Fulminator Mage .
At the moment of this writing, the list that just made the finals of GP Kansas City is running $298 at TCG mid, including the sideboard. That's hard to beat for something that good. It's less than most Standard decks.
July 19, 2013 10:10 a.m.
@ Barandis no one was packing grave yard hate really expect that to change from now on. I dont see Living End decks being as good in the near future.
July 19, 2013 12:18 p.m.
beewithdirtypaws says... #11
@Barandis ya i was looking into soul sisters, they are more in my style of play.
July 19, 2013 1:53 p.m.
@bman5604...I'm gonna wait and see on that. I think you're right, but not for the reasons you say. Scavenging Ooze is going to be the new hotness, and it can handle Living End pretty well all by itself. Ooze will be in Pod decks and all sorts of formerly-Tarmogoyf decks like RUG when people can't afford the Goyfs, and the splash effect will be bad for Living End. That may go away after a time.
I think it's more that than graveyard hate increasing in the sideboard. It didn't win, and the metagame does not tend to adapt to a low-popularity deck making one appearance in a top 8 when it didn't win.
Still, it's a cheap deck and a good answer to OP's desire for a starter Modern deck. Just consider running more Beast Within and Dismember than you might otherwise to handle the Oozes.
July 19, 2013 2:02 p.m.
Umm he will be and fail. He is bolt able as soon as he gets cast un like goyf which can be bolt evasive when cast. He has had his chance to shine in legacy and failed. He might do better in modern only time will tell but I don't consider Living End decks to be all that good. The one that did well faced a meta not looking to deal with graveyard based strategies moving forward there will be hate or it.
July 19, 2013 2:10 p.m.
So which metagame was that? The one where Tarmogoyf is banned? Cause that's the only way people don't play graveyard hate. No one is going to be increasing any amount of graveyard hate any time soon...well, short of adding Scavenging Ooze to their decks, of course. And the Living End deck still made the finals.
I think you're confused about some issues here.
Thinking that cards that fail in Legacy fail in Modern. Shall I list for you all of the cards that are legal in both that are really lousy in Legacy and really good (even to the point of being staples) in Modern? This would be a very long post. I actually find it difficulty that its failure in Legacy was ever mentioned because its relevance is approximately zero.
Assuming that any boltable creature fails. Really, did you just make the "dies to Lightning Bolt " argument about a card that has a very realistic chance of actually surviving a bolt (it only takes two extra green and two binned creatures)? Please, go ahead and count up the number of non-boltable creatures in the last two Modern GP-winning decks...well, one of them did use an Obstinate Baloth out of the sideboard, I guess. Yes, 56 creatures between the two main decks, and not one of them that survives a bolt (short of Persist, and persisting those creatures makes them useless for the combo). How did they win?
Even discounting the first two points, assuming that "this card is not good" and "this card is not played" are the same thing. People are going to be using Ooze in place of Goyf, whether it's good or not. People are going to be tossing one-ofs into Melira Pod (count me among that number) because it makes a nice toolbox card, one that can just be sacrificed away for Kitchen Finks or Eternal Witness or Orzhov Pontiff if it isn't doing anything in a particular matchup. "Good" or not, you're going to be seeing a lot of Oozes in the near future.
Look, I'm not saying it's not overhyped. I'm not even necessarily saying it's good, though I believe there are places where it will be and that I value it a bit more highly than you do. I'm saying that it's going to be played. That's all that matters, because the next time that Living End player is facing one down, telling his opponent "hey, that's not a good card" is not in fact going to remove it from the battlefield.
All that being said, to attempt to get on-topic, I'd still recommend Living End to a new player. It's a decent deck, it's cheap (even cheaper than Burn if the Burn variation is using fetchlands), and it's fun with some extremely good matchups. Despite its recent good finish, I don't think it's going to win any GP's any time soon, but the guy is looking for a starting deck. Let's not overreach.
RegisteredDecksOffender says... #2
Honestly.. as against it as I am, Red Deck Wins would probably be the most affordable as far as decently competitive decks go.
It's straight forward, and fairly budgeted.
July 18, 2013 11:25 p.m.