So modern looks like its gonna take a serious hit
Modern forum
Posted on March 6, 2015, 4:27 p.m. by IndepenentMeta
Theres quit a few things that have been spoiled today in the world of magic. And these things are once again AMAZING. The dragons of tarkir block is introducing two new plays walkers that could really change the meta. In Surrak and Narset. On top of that modern monster 2015 has been announced where we will be receving reprints of two really good cards in the modern format tarmogoyf and karn. It's also not out of the question that we could receive tron land reprints. One can one spectate with a karn reprint... On top of that origins is getting spoiled where it's gonna introduce the first transform planeswalkers. There's also rumors of force of will reprints and much more.
vampirelazarus says... #3
As I said elsewhere to you, Force is not getting a reprint.
It never will.
March 6, 2015 4:31 p.m.
Ohthenoises says... #4
vampirelazarus Remember, this guy is a troll. Don't feed the trolls.
March 6, 2015 4:33 p.m.
canterlotguardian says... #5
Wait. Is no one going to mention that this dude literally just said that Surrak is a Planeswalker in DTK? Not Sarkhan? What the fuck.
March 6, 2015 4:35 p.m.
GlistenerAgent says... #6
Narset is overrated IMO for Modern. She's not an instant, and costs four mana. Splinter Twin decks will tear you apart.
As for Sarkhan, he's nowhere near Modern playable. Standard bomb for sure, but in Modern pretty bad.
Reprints will not change the format, just make it more accessible (which is awesome).
March 6, 2015 4:35 p.m.
The troll is no longer in the dungeon. He is now among us....
March 6, 2015 4:41 p.m.
Servo_Token says... #9
Honestly, I don't think this guy is a troll. Just a bleeding moron.
March 6, 2015 4:42 p.m.
ThatJunkMage, it's just the other threads that he has made. He has been a troll.
But, well, we can discuss Modern I guess!
Do you think, some cards from DTK will see modern play?
March 6, 2015 4:46 p.m.
"Modern Monsters"
Sorry, I don't want to Decklord Dogpile you, but please pretty please proofread your posts. It promotes discussion by cutting down on the grammatical corrections.
March 6, 2015 4:47 p.m.
Servo_Token says... #12
Something out of the command cycle will see marginal modern play. It's hard to say that any spoiled as of right now will, though if any, my bet is on the 
one.
Also, maybe anticipate. Hard to say what storm is going to care for though.
March 6, 2015 4:48 p.m.
IndepenentMeta says... #13
@glister I know your not a big fan of my tech ideas but if force of will really god reprint and the narset comes out it be something Kool to add to Jeskai twin.
March 6, 2015 5:09 p.m.
VampireArmy says... #14
Atarkas command is going to see play in some burn and little zoo narset will be tested in uwx for sure. Modern masters won't matter because of the price. New lili won't be seeing play in modern.
March 6, 2015 5:14 p.m.
IndepenentMeta says... #15
Splinter twin is a 4 drop. Garld fabinos deck had a jace in it. If you chose control I'm pretty sure there are ways to make a 4 drop viable. In modern. Modern isn't even as fast as they say it is. They said oh the format of the four rounders. I looked into at least 8 different modern tournaments and yes there was four rounders but there was more games that went a good while. You guys seem to forget you have the most powerful counter spells and control aspects of the game. Which is why most of the last longer than four rounds. I can easily see some guy coming up with a badass narset build. And as for sarkhan he puts some pretty big threats on to the board as for a draw engine. But maybe it won't see too much play we don't know but let's not rule anything out...
March 6, 2015 5:14 p.m.
GlistenerAgent says... #17
I think you're using the word "tech" improperly. Regardless, I am obligated to play devil's advocate for new cards. If you can defend it, you can play it. If you can't, it may not be good enough.
Atarka's Command is very good in Zoo and Burn, as VA said. Ojutai's Command is gas as well. I'm not a fan of Anticipate.
March 6, 2015 5:16 p.m.
IndepenentMeta says... #18
Please reframe from posting up pictures or name calling this is suppose to be a serious conversion.... Other wise you guys are the one who are trolling
March 6, 2015 5:17 p.m.
GlistenerAgent says... #19
It's a matter of using your mana efficiently. Narset and Sarkhan aren't the most efficient cards available.
March 6, 2015 5:18 p.m.
GlistenerAgent says... #20
Dammit man, proofread your damn posts. I don't want to read a toddler's writing.
Please? Proofread please?
March 6, 2015 5:19 p.m.
IndepenentMeta says... #21
Oh yeah that's that 2 drop command card right? I could see that coming to life in modern.
As for lili I really do think so. Although it doesn't have the kill switch veil does so that's prolly why it wouldn't but it has a rivival for a good 4 drop the discard effect and I think a better ultimate. So it might it might not. But we will have to see
March 6, 2015 5:20 p.m.
IndepenentMeta says... #22
Take the time to proof read my stuff and read what I wrote on comment 17
March 6, 2015 5:21 p.m.
Ohthenoises says... #24
Are you saying that the new Liliana has a better ultimate than Liliana of the Veil?
March 6, 2015 5:22 p.m.
IndepenentMeta says... #25
I never troll I get trolled. Speaking of hard to read its kinda hard to read my comment when a bunch of retards are posting up stupid ass pictures and not contributing shit to the conversion.
March 6, 2015 5:23 p.m.
GlistenerAgent says... #27
conversation*
Make it easier to take you seriously. Type properly and people will think you're intelligent even if you aren't.
March 6, 2015 5:25 p.m.
Ohthenoises says... #28
"Please reframe from" "modern monster 2015" "new plays walkers" "be receving reprints"
You mean "Please refrain from"? "Modern Masters 2015"? "new planeswalkers"? "be receiving reprints"?
These are the type of things that GA is asking you to proofread.
March 6, 2015 5:25 p.m.
VampireArmy says... #29
New lili has worse stats for modern than Vampire Nighthawk let that sink in.
March 6, 2015 5:25 p.m.
IndepenentMeta says... #30
As far as the next set goes vampire army just named a pretty good one. And there are a lot of cards in this set that could bring something to the table. Like narset, sarkhan, there's a 2 drop kill spell for black, most modern decks run mono colored creatures. And maybe that's all I saw as far as dragons goes but I wouldn't doubt it
March 6, 2015 5:26 p.m.
Ohthenoises says... #31
"I never troll I get trolled."
Pretty sure even the thought of printing Force of Will in a modern legal set would make Wizards choke on their own blood.
That's probably the most troll statement in the history of trolling...
March 6, 2015 5:27 p.m.
Ohthenoises says... #32
IndepenentMeta Ultimate Price has been around for a while. It's a reprint, not new.
March 6, 2015 5:28 p.m.
CanadianShinobi says... #33
@ GlistenerAgent I submit that Narset will see Modern play in Jeskai Control. However, I have never found Twin to be a good match up for that Jeskai Control. It can be fairly even at times, but I find Twin to be more consistent. That being said, Narset is fuel for a Control deck and doubles the burn output. We'll see. I like her better than Ajani Vengeant at least.
March 6, 2015 5:29 p.m.
JexInfinite says... #34
I think it was knowledge to everyone that we were getting Karn and Goyf in MM2.
I could see Narset take a dip into modern, and I really want her too, but she's not Cryptic Command. If it's a 4 mana spell, it better be great.
A bit disappointed with Silumgar's Command. It's a standard card, no doubt. I like it, and what Wizards was doing with it, but that was the command I was hoping would be great for modern.
March 6, 2015 5:29 p.m.
IndepenentMeta says... #36
Yeah the lili dies to a thunder bolt that could be bad... Vampire wild you agree that it prolly would've seen play had it been a 2/4 for three?
March 6, 2015 5:33 p.m.
IndepenentMeta says... #37
@ohthenos oh yeah I forgot bout that, sorry I just saw the new art and I was thinking MONEY! Lol but thanks for sharing that
March 6, 2015 5:35 p.m.
vampirelazarus says... #38
I want to say one thing about your comment about modern being a turn four format.
That saying is not to say that all games end on turn four, its saying that you need to be able to win on turn four to be competitive, or stop your opponent from winning on turn four.
March 6, 2015 5:50 p.m.
Just cause a card is good in one format doesn't mean it would be good elsewhere.
Not saying that they would reprint it, but Force of Will wouldn't even see a lot of play in Modern. Most decks are not playing anything worth 2-for-1-ing yourself against. People aren't Show and Telling Griselbrand into play, they are casting Kitchen Finks.
Maybe Twin uses a few to more aggressively combo and protect itself, but it would honestly be pretty bad in the more grindy and value driven Modern format.
March 6, 2015 5:50 p.m.
"Yeah the lili dies to a thunder bolt that could be bad... Vampire wild you agree that it prolly would've seen play had it been a 2/4 for three?"
facepalm
March 6, 2015 5:54 p.m.
VampireArmy says... #41
She will never see play because liliana of the veil exists she would have to be worthy of ban in modern for her to be better than lili of the veil.
You want to talk format changing? Talk about the new free counterspell
March 6, 2015 5:55 p.m.
CanadianShinobi says... #42
VampireArmy what new free counterspell? Did I miss something? I must possess this card.
March 6, 2015 5:59 p.m.
mathimus55 says... #43
This whole conversation has brightened my day. What a world
March 6, 2015 6:01 p.m.
Why on earth do you think that Wizards of The Coast would print Force of Will in modern, it would totally ruin the format.
March 6, 2015 6:03 p.m.
julianjmoss says... #47
On the off chance that you are not trolling, I just want to let you know that wizards has stated that they are never going to print "free" cards like force of will, submerge and invigorate again so I doubt force of will is going to get reprinted. In addition, they design cards for standard so it's unlikely that card makes into a standard set. It was just a judge promo which makes sense
March 6, 2015 6:07 p.m.
CanadianShinobi I think the free counter spell that VampireArmy is referring to is Force of Will, Which is apparently being reprinted lol
March 6, 2015 6:09 p.m.
IndepenentMeta says... #49
@vampire yeah man but it's like why not tech both in a mono black deck I could see something like 2x new lili 3x liliana of the veil happening. I know I've seen a few good examples in my time playing where you hear "why not both?" that's actually something that's been heard of
As far as the new counter spell that's for free idk I haven't heard bout. So if you wanna talk bout it right now is a good time. Enlighten me
March 6, 2015 6:09 p.m.
IndepenentMeta says... #50
@slynce yeah I more less know that but that's why I was wondering why they wouldn't reprint daze over it. IMO the better card despite what people say.
But it could still see play time for the fact that you could cast it while your mana is tapped out how good that might be will be a mystery seeing that there's not much draw power in modern since cruise and dig are banned in modern.
The reason as to why I'm talking bout draw power is that it can help you keep a steady hand for the use of force. In case your wondering
klone13 says... #2
if force of will is reprinted it is auto-banned in modern imo lol.
March 6, 2015 4:29 p.m.