Top 10 Red Burn Spells
Modern forum
Posted on Jan. 17, 2014, 9:26 p.m. by forestlore44
I'm not that well acquainted with modern, particularly red cards, but apparently Lightning Bolt is a thing. In your opinion what are the top 10 burn spells in modern as of now?
miracleHat says... #3
Top Ten:
1. Lightning Bolt
2. Lava Spike
3. Shard Volley
4. Goblin Guide
5. Rift Bolt
6. Grim Lavamancer
7. Lightning Helix
8. Browbeat
9. Thunderous Wrath
and ten (this card can only be used in pure burn decks)
10. Vexing Devil
January 17, 2014 9:34 p.m.
But beware Vexing Devil is not as good as he was in standrd because of Path to Exile
January 17, 2014 9:39 p.m.
miracleHat says... #5
there is a reason that i put the devil in #10. if not devil, then Magma Jet /Electrolyze .
January 17, 2014 9:42 p.m.
aeonstoremyliver says... #6
- Lightning Bolt
- Goblin Guide
- Grim Lavamancer
- Lava Spike
- Rift Bolt
- Keldon Marauders
- Boros Charm
- Lightning Helix
- Skullcrack
- Brimstone Volley
Brimstone Volley turns Spark Elemental , Hellspark Elemental , Keldon Marauders , Vexing Devil , and any creature that died into a Lava Axe , at instant speed, for 3 mana.
Vexing Devil
is ok, but most people let it ride and then remove it.
January 17, 2014 9:44 p.m.
Is it just me or did he ask for BURN spells?
January 17, 2014 9:46 p.m.
aeonstoremyliver says... #8
To be technical, with the exception of lands, anything that has a casting cost is a spell... ;-)
January 17, 2014 10:09 p.m.
Epochalyptik says... #9
@QuentinD: Goblin Guide and its ilk are effectively burn spells.
January 17, 2014 10:29 p.m.
@QuentinD he said he wasnt familiar with modern so giving him the other tools such as good creatures for RDW is also helping no need for you to be that jerk who goes ohh he only wants burns spells so why are people suggesting other things.
January 18, 2014 12:34 a.m.
aeonstoremyliver says... #11
No one is being a jerk, man. It's just clarification. Red Deck Wins uses definite cards in it's arsenal, not just Instants and Sorceries...
January 18, 2014 12:38 a.m.
@Epochalyptik ok, im a gonna go shut up now. Dont judge, i just got back into the game a week ago.
January 18, 2014 1:15 a.m.
Epochalyptik says... #13
January 18, 2014 1:22 a.m.
I was joking BTW. I don't understand how you interpret that as unnecessary but I think you should now that I'm only kidding. Thanks for letting me know that the Guide can be a 'burn spell' also. I've played for over 4 years and learning new things everyday, howboutdat.
January 18, 2014 1:38 a.m.
- Lightning Bolt
- Lightning Helix
- Chain Lightning (how do none of you have this listed yet?)
- Fireblast (same here....)
- Electrolyze
- Rift Bolt
- Skullcrack
- Browbeat
- Fireball
- Thunderous Wrath
January 18, 2014 2:17 a.m.
SandyDufresne says... #17
@wish12oz: Because Chain Lightning and Fireblast aren't modern legal.
January 18, 2014 2:43 a.m.
Ill 2nd the list Droxium made... Vexing Devil is never what you want it to be but with its single R casting cost its worth throwing into a deck that has A LOT of burn. Even if its just removed your opponent still had to waste his/her removal on your 1cmc creature.
January 18, 2014 4:45 a.m.
@CaraculiambroI just started again after like a decade of not playing, but Ive seen modern border versions of both of those cards, how are they not legal? Here's ebay links because they showed up there when I searched.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Magic-the-Gathering-MTG-Fire-and-Lightning-FIREBLAST-Foil-/110907482629
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Magic-the-Gathering-1x-Chain-Lightning-Premium-Deck-MINT-MTG-Card-/151209634776?pt=Trading_Card_Games_US&hash=item2334cbebd8
Neither of these is my ebay account btw, that makes posting these links ok right? lol
January 18, 2014 9:12 a.m.
miracleHat says... #20
When looking at legality of a card, look for the set symbol. Chain Lightning is in legends and that is pre 8th edition, making in illegal. anyways, does Bump in the Night have a spot in here because people are splashing black for it along with Deathrite Shaman .
January 18, 2014 12:28 p.m.
wish12oz, they were reprinted with a modern border in special expansions (Duel Decks, Premium Deck Series), and therefore aren't actually modern legal. Confusing, I know.
January 18, 2014 12:44 p.m.
miracleHat says... #22
@Jp3ngu1nb0y, what is your list of burn spells? if you put in Lava Axe , i will lose all respect in your burn spell decisions...
January 18, 2014 12:45 p.m.
miracleHat says... #24
face palms. immediately falls asleep and is writing in my dreams.
January 18, 2014 12:50 p.m.
But actually, I'd probably say something like
January 18, 2014 1:01 p.m.
miracleHat says... #26
I like your list, though i wonder at Vexing Devil being #4. it isn't what you want it to be, but i do like the inclusion of Blightning (fucking jund cascade (Bloodbraid Elf into Blightning =worst nightmare).
January 18, 2014 1:04 p.m.
I don't like him as a card, but in a burn deck he gets the job done
January 18, 2014 2 p.m.
warwizard87 says... #28
god if chain and fireblast were modern legal burn would be tier 1 mabey even the best deck
January 19, 2014 3:41 a.m.
aeonstoremyliver says... #29
That's why Legacy RDW rocks :-)
Fireblast is one helluva bomb.
January 19, 2014 3:49 a.m.
- Lightning Strike
- Stoke the Flames
- Rift Bolt
- Searing Blood
- Anger of the Gods
- Magma Spray
- Magma Jet
- Bolt of Keranos
- Spark Jolt
- Shock
this is burn spells, and yet on the 1st list, miracle hat said 3 cards that don't qualify (2 if this isnt a mono red list), thats just bad
December 5, 2014 5:31 p.m.
aeonstoremyliver says... #34
Holy necrobump this thread is almost a year old!
December 5, 2014 8:47 p.m.
JexInfinite says... #36
Can't be bothered having a list, but I am a definite fan of Tribal Flames, as deck specific as it is.
December 5, 2014 11:49 p.m.
miracleHat says... #37
Did somebody just comment on this? Also, somebody was mentioning the cards that don't apply to this list. I am assuming that you are talking about Goblin Guide and co. I will disagree with your being against Goblin Guide, but Vexing Devil and Grim Lavamancer can be argued to a certain degree. I won't go into Vexing Devil because he has already been hated off of the form, but Grim Lavamancer is a great card. Exiling cards for damage that can be repeated turn after turn is great when battling the Attrition war. Who is going to win:
both players have no cards in hand
Grim Lavamancer is the only card on the field with a stacked grave
opponent at 6 life
I will be going with the lavamancer which is much better, if I may, than:
Bolt of Keranos
Spark Jolt
and
Shock
I find it amusing that you put shock in because that is what the lavamancer does repeatedly, and for every 2 spells. Also, I agree with aeonstoremyliver
December 6, 2014 12:43 a.m.
miracleHat says... #38
That being said, if I were to make one change, it would be adding Skullcrack somewhere in there...
December 6, 2014 12:44 a.m.
Necroing to list Lightning Strike as the best Modern burn spell. What.
December 6, 2014 12:46 a.m.
aeonstoremyliver says... #40
We needs a meme for the wat and the necrobump.
December 6, 2014 12:58 a.m.
JexInfinite says... #41
Has anyone ever cast Lightning Strike outside of standard? How should we do the meme?
December 6, 2014 1:13 a.m.
miracleHat says... #42
Has anybody cast Bolt of Keranos outside of draft? I would like a necrobump meme for this site. It would save a lot of time, just one pic.!
December 6, 2014 1:56 a.m.
APPLE01DOJ says... #43
I like Searing Blood though it can be a dead draw.
December 7, 2014 1:27 a.m.
Named_Tawyny says... #44
It's not an auto-include, but I've seen Seal of Fire do some good work.
December 7, 2014 2:19 p.m.
VesuvanDoppelbanger says... #46
Jam_boy has the right idea. Shrapnel Blast should be right there, too.
April 25, 2015 10:57 p.m.
miracleHat says... #47
What.............! This was necroeid form the biggest part of hell!
April 25, 2015 11:17 p.m.
The necromancer in me is pleased. :-)
I second Goblin Grenade if you have enough gobs in the deck to make it viable. Similar cards like Fiery Conclusion are okay too.
No Flame Javelin? In mono-red, at least, it's pretty good.
Banefire, I like a lot.
mmdw34 says... #2
Lightning bolt, Shard Volley , Lava Spike , Rift Bolt , in some cases Thunderous Wrath and Browbeat creature wise Keldon Marauders Grim Lavamancer Goblin Guide Hellspark Elemental
January 17, 2014 9:31 p.m.