wait, why isn't Relief Captain played more?
Modern forum
Posted on March 20, 2016, 11:08 p.m. by DERPLINGSUPREME
seriously. this card strikes me as better than the rhino. I mean seriously,its a 6/5 for 4 mana!
Necrotesque says... #3
That's not how Support works. It's "on each of up to three other".
March 20, 2016 11:12 p.m.
mathimus55 says... #5
It's fine for a STANDARD Hardened Scales type deck, but for modern it doesn't do enough for a 4 mana investment. If a similar deck takes off in modern sure, it might get some love but the format still isn't super friendly for 4 drops that don't immediately start doing something.
March 20, 2016 11:25 p.m.
4 CMC for a 3/2 body is terrible, even with the support3. Does it make your 1-3 CMC creatures a little beefier? Sure...but your opponent is probably going to drop a 4/4, a removal, or the like. You just wasted a turn to buff up creatures you're probably going to lose anyway.
March 20, 2016 11:29 p.m.
DERPLINGSUPREME says... #7
oh.
other creatures.
shit, support is fucking terrible.
I mean, not only is it other, but only a max of 1 each. fuck that.
March 21, 2016 12:08 a.m.
Once again, a case of misunderstanding cleared up by reading the card. Amazing. /s
But yeah, Support is pretty much a Limited only mechanic. I'd be amazed if any Support cards saw play in any competitive Constructed format.
March 21, 2016 1:50 a.m.
MindAblaze says... #9
So you don't feel bad, I got ridiculously excited about Dream Pillager just Saturday until a buddy of mine was like "[other buddy] said we shouldn't say anything until you try to pull that shit." Classic RTFC. Very nice.
That being said, I could see this card seeing play in a Knight tribal deck next to Silverblade Paladin and Knight Exemplar. Hard to play it over Hero of Bladehold though.
March 21, 2016 2:39 a.m. Edited.
KillDatBUG says... #10
Call me crazy, but I don't think that a 6/5 for 4 mana would see any real play. We got a 1-3 mana 5/5, a two mana 5/6, another 3 mana 5/5, a two mana X/X, and even a one mana 6/6.
March 21, 2016 12:28 p.m.
Wizards makes one or two bad mechanics. Every set. Bad mechanics doing bad things.
March 21, 2016 5:17 p.m.
Dalektable says... #12
Even with the misunderstanding, I think a vanilla 6/5 for four is worse than a 4/5 w/trample that Lightning Helixs.
March 21, 2016 6:43 p.m.
Why do people always describe Siege Rhino as casting Lightning Helix? It's a Blood Tithe!
March 21, 2016 6:51 p.m.
MindAblaze says... #14
It's not a Blood Tithe because you don't gain 3x life you just gain 3 life.
Also, support is a decent limited mechanic for changing up combat math. Not everything is for constructed.
March 21, 2016 7:33 p.m. Edited.
DERPLINGSUPREME says... #15
@KillDatBUG okay, so I totally understand the rest of this thread but your comment confuses me.
what 1 mana 6/6? what 2 mana 5/6? what 3 mana 5/5? what 1-3 mana 5/5?
seriously, what are these cards? as Vanillas these cards would never be printed.
except maybe the 3 mana 5/5 but still.
March 21, 2016 7:37 p.m.
KillDatBUG says... #16
Alright, in order:
Gurmag Angler, Tarmogoyf, Knight of the Reliquary, Arcbound Ravager, and Death's Shadow.
March 21, 2016 9:23 p.m.
DERPLINGSUPREME says... #17
ah, that makes more sense.
I thought you might've been doing something like that. when I hear the mana cost and p/t I always assume you mean base p/t and mana cost and such.
March 21, 2016 9:27 p.m.
canterlotguardian says... #18
Maybe you were confusing Support with Bolster, e.g. Dromoka, the Eternal?
FAMOUSWATERMELON says... #2
ONE COUNTER on up to three OTHER creatures.
That's why.
March 20, 2016 11:11 p.m.