What will be (un)banned next?
Modern forum
Posted on Jan. 20, 2014, 5:44 p.m. by iVampire
What will the next banned cards be? The current list is as follows:
I have not played that long, therefore I have no insight on what these cards were like when they were not banned. BUT, I have been playing modern a lot recently, and I have come to some of my own conclusions:
1) I do not think any of the cards that were printed in Modern Masters will be banned. (Even though I feel as if Arcbound Ravager , and AEther Vial are ban worthy). I came to this conclusion because Modern Masters was printed specifically for Modern and all of the cards in it will be considered "not ban worthy".
2) Affinity is too good. It needs a buffer. Something that will slow it down, but not make it unusable.
What do you think will be banned, or unbanned, next?
the3rdH0kage says... #3
I've heard that there are talks of banning Birthing Pod . Unbanning though, I just want Second Sunrise unbanned, maybe Sensei's Divining Top would be nice too.
Also Affinity isn't too good. It's has quite a few answers to it. Stony Silence and Kataki, War's Wage both destroy Affinity. and there mana cost isn't too constrictiv that they are worth a splash of White if your not playing White.
January 20, 2014 5:58 p.m.
Affinity won't see any bans as it will always be a self-containing strategy, much like many of the graveyard decks. There are far to many good artifact hate cards. If Affinity ever became dominate, which it's not even doing currently, the uptick of sideboard hate would simply put it in check.
The modern ban list is based mostly degenerative cards, something that either pushes all other decks or card options out of the format, makes for poor matches or allows for a little too much consistency. It's possible that cards like Deathrite Shaman and Splinter Twin are approaching that, but I don't think they are ban worthy yet.
January 20, 2014 5:59 p.m.
Epochalyptik says... #5
@iVampire: Please make sure you're posting in the proper forum. Moved to Modern.
@lookoutimscary: There's no reason to ban Tarmogoyf . It's a strong card, but it isn't OP. Also, all the green players would be up in arms about that ban.
January 20, 2014 6:28 p.m.
lookoutimscary says... #6
That's true, I think it was more personal preference than anything else
January 20, 2014 6:31 p.m.
Many people theorize that BBE and Jace could simultaneously be unbanned. They kind of counteract each other, and neither is inherently against the spirit of the format necessarily. Not saying that this is correct, just what I hear.
January 20, 2014 7:33 p.m.
lookoutimscary says... #9
notamardybum No...it's right there on the list..
January 21, 2014 7:27 a.m.
notamardybum says... #10
Oh... I thought this was a list of what is unbanned :(
January 21, 2014 2:30 p.m.
SharuumNyan says... #11
How about Umezawa's Jitte ? As long as Stoneforge Mystic stays banned (which it should), how OP can equipment be? I don't think it's any worse than Batterskull .
January 21, 2014 3:18 p.m.
lookoutimscary says... #12
SharuumNyan Umezawa's Jitte is OP with out Stoneforge Mystic the mana cost is the same as it is to put it onto the battlefield (although you don't get the tutoring). Whenever equipped creature deals damage and anyway, that +4/+4 next turn, 4 life, or -2/-2 for another creature, all on turn 3. It's banned for good reason.
January 21, 2014 5:15 p.m.
SharuumNyan says... #13
I just don't see how that is OP. There are way more powerful cards that aren't banned.
And Stoneforge Mystic is mainly broken because it's an equipment tutor.
January 21, 2014 5:23 p.m.
lookoutimscary says... #14
It's just amazing versatility that not alot of cards have, if you ever play with/against it you'll get it.
January 21, 2014 5:26 p.m.
Jitte is insanely good against opposing creature decks. That said, it could come off the ban list.
January 22, 2014 1:23 p.m.
CanadianShinobi says... #16
Let's put it this way SharuumNyan if it gets unbanned everyone will have to to run it to compete with everyone who runs it who will be everyone. That and it would turn Affinity into a bloody nightmare. OR it would result in decks running lots of artifact hate for the sole purpose of getting rid of that thus skewing decks to combat it. That's how powerful that card is.
On another note, I've heard rumours that Birthing Pod ,may get banned. Anyone hear anything about this?
January 22, 2014 11:24 p.m.
Pod really isn't skewing the format that much. Sure, it is extremely powerful, but it is easy to hate out, particularly due the presence of Grafdigger's Cage , which makes pod and chord useless and makes most of the other cards much weaker.
January 23, 2014 1:27 p.m.
SharuumNyan says... #19
CanadianSamurai you wouldn't have to run Jitte just to compete with it. That card was banned in Modern right from the beginning if I'm not mistaken, and a lot has happened to the format since then. You might be surprised how little impact a strong equipment has in the format right now. I don't see it on the same OP level as Jace.
January 24, 2014 11:13 a.m.
SharuumNyan says... #20
AsteriskReaper they aren't going to ban 'Goyf. There would be a crowd of Modern players with torches and pitchforks reading to burn down WotC HQ if that happened. lol
January 24, 2014 11:14 a.m.
I have to agree with SharuumNyan, I think there is enough artifact hate in Modern to allow for the unbanning of Jitte.
I do wish Wizards was more willing to experiment with "trial un-bans" to see if a certain card would really be that bad. That said, I can see why they don't because it would be very tricky to pull off, and anybody who invested money during the un-ban period would be pretty upset if it just got banned again. Which, as a consequence, would discourage people from buying the card in the first place and would defeat the point of the exercise.
January 26, 2014 8:22 p.m.
I think the modern b&r list will go unchanged. The meta is perfectly healthy right now. I don't see a reason to unban anything, though IF one thing was to be unbanned, it might be Bitterblossom . I think the Legacy B&R list will go unchanged, but this does not mean True-Name Nemesis is safe, I think if it gets banned, it will be with the JOU update. EDH list will change with the addition of Sylvan Primordial and possibly Deadeye Navigator .
January 27, 2014 9:29 a.m.
@gufymike Wizards doesn't run the EDH ban list. Although there might be a simultaneous update from the people who do, I haven't heard anything to suggest that.
January 27, 2014 9:39 a.m.
raithe000 Please read this Anyone with a clue of EDH and the RC knows that the rules and B&R are not managed by WoTC. But a few of us actually keep up with when things change. I'm sorry but you made the wrong comment at the wrong time and not in the mood. I can't phrase it any nicer than that. Take it as an honest apology because I would try to be more polite if already not in a stressed foul mood.
January 27, 2014 10:09 a.m.
@gufymike My apologies, I was unaware of that. Hope you feel better.
January 27, 2014 10:16 a.m.
SharuumNyan says... #26
EvenDryke test un-banning cards is an interesting concept, and even if they don't do this for the public, you'd think playtest groups at Wizards would be doing this kind of thing constantly.
January 27, 2014 11:50 a.m.
Three-Left-Feet says... #27
I don't think Tarmogoyf will be banned, like everyone is hoping, simply because he dies to a lot of removal.. I mean, maybe not Lightning Bolt too often, but the rest easily. Not to mention people are getting him dead with cards like Rest in Peace , a 2mana 0/1? Cool...
My real worries about the ban list are Snapcaster Mage and Deathrite Shaman ... Both have been showing some intense play in modern, and I just have a feeling one (or Theros forbid, both) will be banned...
January 30, 2014 9:49 p.m.
Turn_Soonest says... #28
I keep hearing Splinter Twin , Deathrite Shaman , and Pod are gonna get banned. The only one that I think deserves it is twin. There's no way Goyf is gonna get banned. Jitte won't be unbanned neither will Bloodbraid or Stoneforge. I can see Bitterblossom getting off the list however, because Abrupt Decay is a thing. I alsi see Wild Nacatl getting unbanned. Just like blossom, there's more ways of dealing with it. I doubt Jace will get unbanned, but we'll see. Arcbound Ravager has no reason to be banned at all.
January 31, 2014 1:24 a.m.
I would be shocked if they banned Splinter Twin . Currently it's the only pure combo deck that is considered tier 1.
January 31, 2014 5:21 p.m.
February 1, 2014 7:33 a.m.
Three-Left-Feet says... #34
It's basically so Blue doesn't have any great sorting spells, TheGamer
Although, if you play a deck that uses Sleight of Hand or Serum Visions , and replace those cards with Ponder or Preordain , I promise you it FEELS OP like crazy
February 1, 2014 10:09 a.m.
king of the goblins says... #36
Jitte will not be unbanbed, Goyf will not be banned, if anything is Banned it will be Birthing Pod, Melira, Sylvok Outcast, Maybe Tron Lands, but overall I could a banning of 1-2 cards and lets be honest here the only card that is worthy of unbanning is Bitterblossom, sure tribal faeries come back well we have pyroclasm, whipflare, countermagic, abrupt decay so the initial impact wont be all that bad.
Another reason why Jitte would not be unbanned is Stellshaper's Gift imagine now a delver deck or affinity or even a Goyf with that OP
February 2, 2014 10:29 a.m.
Three-Left-Feet says... #37
Honestly, I'm the guy that'd play Faeries like crazy! Maybe a Faerie/AEther Vial deck... Maybe. If Bitterblossom got unbanned.
It's not like the card is too incredibly overpowered anymore. I mean, it'd probably turn Faeries into a high Tiered deck, but it's definitely not unbeatable.
I don't think they'd Ban the Tron Lands, just because there's a good amount of strategy against the deck. But the other two cards you mention seem plausible, but Deathrite Shaman still seems the most likely to me
lookoutimscary says... #2
Nothing will be unbanned, all of that list is there for good reason. If anything is banned I think it'll be Tarmogoyf which isn't all that likely (maybe it's just my personal hope) but yeah.
January 20, 2014 5:55 p.m.