Why isn't Arcanum Wings a thing?

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Posted on Feb. 23, 2015, 2:36 p.m. by TheAmazingSalsa

I mean, shouldn't the ability to have any aura for 3 CMC be game breaking?

I mean, in a bant enchantment deck, you can pretty much get Eldrazi Conscription on turn 3.

kyuuri117 says... #2

Arcanum Wings. Had to look it up myself, figured i'd link it. The answer is that aura's really aren't a thing in modern. I mean, they can be, but they really aren't. And when people do play them, this just is too slow.

February 23, 2015 2:38 p.m.

kyuuri117 says... #3

You play it, they play their kill spell, you get 2 for 1'd, and your gameplan falls apart.

February 23, 2015 2:39 p.m.

Jay says... #4

I mean, make the deck if you like it, but it's really not consistent. If you flesh it out with a tutor package and control staples, you might as well just be running something to cheat it straight into play like Boonweaver Giant or the cheaper dude, and either way it's very vulnerable and doesn't win for 3 turns.

February 23, 2015 2:42 p.m.

xcn says... #5

You could do ELDRAZI BOGLES GUYS.

Rad.

February 23, 2015 3:17 p.m.

PepsiAddicted says... #6

lol that would be a funny first round with some good laughs from the crowd

February 23, 2015 3:21 p.m.

vampirelazarus says... #7

Its definitely something to try for FNM level stuff, (Im weird actually and would take it to higher levels, and my LGS is actually all spikes, all highly competitive so........)

But I wouldn't expect it do well in a finely tuned highly competitive meta.

February 23, 2015 3:22 p.m.

square711 says... #8

As someone who plays Bogles a lot due to it being the only tier 2 deck within my current budget, I can say I love Arcanum Wings and wish it saw more competitive play. If it were a green card, it'd be a Bogles staple for sure, and its price would be much higher. The problem is... well, it's blue. And U/W Bogles is strictly worse than its G/W counterpart, because you lose Gladecover Scout and limit yourself to only Slippery Bogle as a reliable turn 1 play. And that's in a deck that is considered tier 2 exactly because it has an incredibly low creature count that screws you up fairly often, forcing you to mulligan down to 4 or 5 every other game.

So, long story short: competitively speaking, Arcanum Wings is useless outside of one specific tier 2 deck, which can't play its color because that would make its extremely unreliable nature even worse. That's why it sees so little play. (It's still hella fun to use in casual play, though)

February 23, 2015 3:23 p.m.

PepsiAddicted says... #9

I wouldnt play it in bogles and im open for experiments. Its slow itself, has high activation cost in a deck with an av cmc of 1.5 and you cant tutor conscription. Also conscription is a dead card without it. Dont say mulligan till you have it, bogle already has to mulligan enough with its core setup

February 23, 2015 3:30 p.m.

kyuuri117 says... #10

Is there any reason you couldn't splash blue in g/w boggles? It's not like aggro cares about it's life total, and mana fixing is easy.

February 23, 2015 3:31 p.m.

PepsiAddicted says... #11

Some ppl do and it kinda works. But not for Arcanum Wings ofc

February 23, 2015 3:34 p.m.

square711 says... #12

You can splash blue in a Bogles deck pretty easily, yeah. People don't do it much because there isn't a good enough reason to.

Arcanum Wings isn't worth the effort, for the reasons PepsiAddicted pointed out.

Invisible Stalker is virtually the same as Silhana Ledgewalker, so it doesn't bring much to the table. Same for Curiosity and Keen Sense.

Aqueous Form is good, but gets a little obsolete when you have trample.

Shimmering Wings is meh.

The only card worth splashing U for is Unstable Mutation, really. Maybe if Misty Rainforests weren't $40 a piece...

February 23, 2015 4:20 p.m.

dragon_slayer says... #13

February 23, 2015 5:14 p.m.

square711 says... #14

Geist is a great card, but he's a terrible Bogle, so to speak. It's just too expensive for aggro. By the time he can start swinging, the game should already be over.

February 23, 2015 5:32 p.m.

dragon_slayer says... #15

A fair point.

However, playing blue in general is just bad for Bogles, so yea...

February 23, 2015 7:27 p.m.

jandrobard says... #16

It's not a thing because it's a combo that doesn't insta win, and has little versatility.

February 23, 2015 11:38 p.m.

JexInfinite says... #17

It's not a thing because it's slow and unreliable. Why wouldn't I just play Daybreak Coronet and be done with it?

February 24, 2015 3:26 a.m.

xzavierx says... #18

the big problem is it's a combo card. 2cmc to give a hexproof creature flying, then next turn you pay 3 only if you have the big enchantment.

so it's an underpowered card at 2cmc flying if you don't have another piece. Then even worse, if you dont see this card, you're stuck with a deck that runs 18-20 land and 8cmc big enchantments as dead cards.

too clunky.

February 24, 2015 5:22 p.m.

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