why isn't chalice of the void used more in modern?
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Posted on Dec. 9, 2011, 10:35 p.m. by burkek
Chalice of the Void is a very powerful card, which I think would be very powerful in the current meta. Does anyone know why this isn't used more?
It would be a deck based on controling and disrupting the opponent. I think one example is here: http://www.starcitygames.com/events/coverage/deck_tech_mono_white_stax_with.html, its a legacy deck tech, but still you should be able to see what it can potentially do.
December 10, 2011 10:42 a.m.
Its because in Modern all the best cards for all the archetypes sit at the same range of 0-2cmc.
For a control deck this means two things. You either make your deck assuming Chalice or not assuming Chalice. If you assume Chalice you need to have it out on the field ASAP. If you don't plan for Chalice and it hits the field your spells might now become worthless.
And Engineered Explosives is a bit better against aggro.
December 10, 2011 1:19 p.m.
KorApprentice says... #5
I've got an idea, how about Chalice of the Void + Trinisphere ! Now that's control :D
December 10, 2011 3:41 p.m.
mozerdozer says... #6
Trinisphere doesn't modify converted mana cost if that's what you're going for.
December 10, 2011 6:58 p.m.
korapprentice, yep thats the idea lol. And mozerdozer it slows them down to have to play around both of them, that it just doesnt matter. You do have to build your deck around them to some degree though.
December 10, 2011 10:17 p.m.
Newtownhswag1 says... #8
Well I know this is a late post but it definitely sees it's play md. In mono blue tron. In modern of course.
October 8, 2014 2:37 p.m.
12-post MUD in Legacy and any Mishra's Workshop -based deck in Vintage plays the dreaded Chalice of the Void into Trinisphere "make-your-opponent-rage-quit" bullshit...and those decks will struggle with Chalice of the Void . This is despite having a godly mana base where your only land that doesn't tap for more than one mana is Wasteland .
Consider that when thinking about Modern. Modern has Urza's Tower et al., but that doesn't come online until turn three.
I think if they unbanned Cloudpost in Modern, we'd definitely see more Chalice of the Void .
October 9, 2014 2:10 p.m.
Dalektable says... #10
This couldn't not be trolling, this thread was literally from three years ago.
October 9, 2014 7:14 p.m.
@Dalektable: Holy shit I didn't see that it was Necromancy 'd...
I really wish this site would lock threads that haven't had replies in over three months.
October 9, 2014 7:58 p.m.
MTGprojectzer0 says... #12
Against the following decks;
RDW, Merfolk, UR Delver, BW Tokens, Boggle Aura
Which would you pick? Assuming only 1 can be chosen for sideboard. Engineered Explosives , Chalice of the Void , Leyline of Sanctity
October 25, 2014 11:51 a.m.
legacy is heavily built on 1 cmc, brainstorm/ponder/preordain/swords/delver/spell pierce/reanimate/most elves/mother of runes etc etc... meaning chalice for 1 on turn 1 or 2 is super powerful
modern is more 2 drop heavy, which would require a turn 3 or 4 play. snapcaster/ goyf/ bob / mana leak / all of merfolk / lightning helix / remand.. etc etc. making it much less powerful.
KorApprentice says... #2
I still see it in the right decks. The problem is that with most decks, whatever you are trying to disrupt with Chalice of the Void costs the same as something you are using and need. It mostly sees sideboard play today and is only mainboarded in hard-lock control decks really. Why would you personally want to mainboard it?
December 10, 2011 12:43 a.m.