Why Victim of Night?
Modern forum
Posted on April 5, 2014, 12:33 p.m. by 8vomit
Victim of Night is a 1-of in all the top tier rock decks. Having a double black mana cost, I would think that there would be better options. Why to players use this card?
PS: My computer crashed, so I wont be on much until i figure out what to do about it.
Not2muuchparker says... #3
It's super solid in my mono black zombies, always got two bb
April 5, 2014 1:15 p.m.
Dalektable says... #4
It basically kills everything in modern. Oh, and If it is in a Vampire or Zombie deck then you just win on flavor points alone.
April 5, 2014 1:17 p.m.
Named_Tawyny says... #6
Basically what everybody else said - it's rarely a dead card. While some people will play mono-black decks, or artifact heavy decks or or what-have-you, people rarely play decks with nothing but vampires and etc...
April 5, 2014 2:08 p.m.
2 mana black destruction removal is usually priced with kind of drawback, so it's all about weighing the different options.
Go for the Throat - great except affinity is a widely popular deck.
Terminate - excellent, but double color and you need to be in RBx, which isn't the most popular pairing except Jund.
Smother - again good, but the restriction sometimes gets you pretty bad.
Victim of Night - just ends up being the least restrictive, sans the BB. For instance, the only card in the top 100 most played cards in Modern it doesn't kill is Viscera Seer .
April 5, 2014 3:52 p.m.
2 mana removal spell that kills almost everything in modern.Nuff said.
April 5, 2014 3:54 p.m.
I laugh when people use this against my RUG midrange. After stalling with Remand s and Electrolyze etc. i try to get an AEther Vial onto 4, and then abuse its interaction with Huntmaster of the Fells Flip , and others cards that just like flash, such as Glen Elendra Archmage , but the hunt master is my primary win con, so i love people playing victim, as I can play around it easily. Side note: it's also fun discarding AEther Vial to Wrench Mind against 8-rack.
April 5, 2014 7:48 p.m.
thank you all for your input. thats a solid point, huntmaster is the only thing ill likely see that cant be hit by Victim of Night . I mainboard Geth's Verdict currently because it hits emrakul and Geist of Saint Traft but i will probably cut those 3x for 2x Smallpox and 1x victim of night.
April 6, 2014 8:41 p.m.
Named_Tawyny says... #12
@8vomit:
Keep in mind that with Geth's Verdict it's your opponent who gets to choose which creature they sac - so as long as they have two creatures, both emrakul and the Geists will be safe.
April 6, 2014 8:59 p.m.
they wont 99% of the time. thats the point. Usually I wont be casting geth's verdict if they have more than one creature in play. I aim to keep the opponent with a small hand and 1-2 creatures in play. But like i said, i am probably dropping verdict
April 7, 2014 8:12 a.m.
APPLE01DOJ says... #14
The Rock lists that started using Victim of Night & Slaughter Pact were tech'd against Zoo after the bannings.
Another reason, is to add more versatility. Just about every removal spell has some drawback or limitation. If u have several of this kind and several of that kind but both cards still have the same primary function, it doesn't hamper consistency but improves the possibility that u could have an answer for more things.
Me personally, I feel it doesn't hit anything my current removal suite can't handle so it's not worth running. Rock was a Tier 1 deck before running it anyway :)
MollyMab says... #2
Basically. It is BB. Kill anything in modern.
Huntmaster/Olivia see very little fringe play. So for BB you can kill anything else. Go for the throat doesn't hit affinity. Doom blade doesn't hit bob and the like.
April 5, 2014 12:51 p.m.