Pioneer No Mana Cost
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Posted on March 12, 2020, 6:50 p.m. by 9-lives
Are there any good cards in Pioneer that I can use to put on the battlefield my mana-costly cards (such as Eldrazi) that I would otherwise pay a ton of mana for? In other words 'no mana cost' cards?
Magnanimous says... #3
Aetherworks Marvel, Unexpected Results, Omniscience all fit the description but aren't great.
Reanimation like Blood for Bones and Bond of Revival could work if you just wanted to beat down with huge threats.
I'm guessing the Expertise series, Electrodominance, and As Foretold aren't what you're looking for.
Dubious Challenge, Madcap Experiment, Jalira, Master Polymorphist, and Dreamshaper Shaman also work.
March 13, 2020 11:17 a.m.
MagnanimousJalira, Master Polymorphist seems the best for my blue/colorless Eldrazi deck. Does it require that I pay the mana cost, because it doesn't say 'no mana cost'? The only problem is unless I have a lot of heavy mana-cost cards in my deck it will be useless.
March 13, 2020 2:49 p.m.
Omniscience is only good for something like Emrakul, the Promised End when I want to pay 10 instead of 13. Aetherworks Marvel is also extremely delayed due to the fact that I don't want to sacrifice that many cards to win a 6-8 mana drop.
March 13, 2020 2:54 p.m.
sergiodelrio says... #6
Whenever a card lets you "put a card onto the battlefield" it circumvents casting entirely, so no costs, and no peripheral casting triggers.
March 14, 2020 2:43 p.m.
sergiodelrio thanks for the advice and clearing up doubts! <3 I would use Jalira, Master Polymorphist but it requires sacrificing a card, and on top of that it costs 4 mana. If I use it, I'll have to change my deck from less aggro to more midrange. However, the cheapest card i have in mana cost is 2, so if I sacrifice a creature, I'll have at least any card I want to play that is close to the mana cost of this card.Plus, using this card may make me discard lands. In your opinion is this card really worth it in my deck? Here is the link to my deck so you can see if it may be worth it:
March 18, 2020 2:10 p.m.
sergiodelrio says... #8
To be honest, I don't have any Pioneer experience, but instead a lot of Modern experience. Having brewed my fair share of Polymorph/Indomitable Creativity decks, I can assure you that Jalira is not worth it. Why? You'll just end up having bad luck and revealing more copies of her when you use her effect. Your best bet imho is Aetherworks Marvel. This strategy, otherwise, is quite sketchy in Pioneer, because it lacks the noncreature ramp support. Maybe splash black for reanimation. A basic rule of deckbuilding would require you to have at least 8 enabler cards if you're playing combo. I honor your effort, but what you're trying to do is just inherently difficult, especially in Pioneer.
March 18, 2020 2:56 p.m.
sergiodelrio says... #9
EDIT: Just re-read the card, and she can't reveal herself because of the nonlegendary rider. So it might work out after all. I'd still advise splashing black for reanimation and adding token producing non-creature spells to sacrifice... Warping Wail et al
March 18, 2020 3:09 p.m. Edited.
sergiodelrio I don't plan on splashing black unless I want to go Dimir which does have some great cards like Thought Erasure and , and Thief of Sanity, Cast Down, God-Eternal Kefnet,Hidden Strings (which has an awesome clone ability) and more. The former 3 of these cards are most useful, as they use as little mana as possible for greatest efficacy. God-Eternal Kefnet is pretty darn good for his flying and mana cost, if i may say so. If I have some expensive instants or sorceries I could definitely use him.
Argy says... #2
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March 13, 2020 1:42 a.m.