Beardman and the Dad

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Posted on April 8, 2015, 5:47 p.m. by Asher18

So long story short, kid wants foil snow mountain, guy wants narset. Here's the rest, stright off reddit:First the dad:

First of all, I would like to thank you all for providing me with the much needed advice. I decided to do the following but first I would like to clear some confusions/post some new information after talking with my son.The Narset was the planeswalker version, Narset Transcendent.My son knows how to play the game. He is fluent enough to be able to play the game without having to ask questions about every move.I did not forcefully drag my son into playing this wonderful game. He was very interested in the art of the cards and from there, I started to teach him little by little.According to my son, it was the other guy (I will be using the name "Beardman") who initiated the trade.The only cards that played a role in the trade were the Foil Snow Mountain and Narset.My son did agree to the trade that the Beardman proposed, but he did NOT know that different cards have different values. (He believed that all rares were of the same value and I didn't explain the concept of Mythic Rares to him).Yes, I admit that it was my fault for not keeping close watch of my son for the whole entire duration of the FNM. But that does not change the fact that I am still upset at Beardman.After talking with my son, I asked him if he still wanted to keep the snow-covered mountain. He told me that he wished to undo the trade.So at tonight's FNM, I brought my son to our LGS. Sure enough, Beardman was there and I decided to have a quiet conversation between him, my son, and myself. According to him...My son was the one who initiated the trade.He had explained that the Narset was much more expensive than the Land, but my son insisted that he wanted the mountain.Since my son does not have a trade binder, the only thing that he could trade the mountain for was the Narset.The nice thing was that he still did agree to undo the trade so I did not bother arguing with his points. Everything seemed to be going very well. However... When he received his snow-covered mountain back, he told me he couldn't undo the trade because the card had been way too damaged during the time it was in my son's hands. The card was in slightly played condition (What you would expect out of a old card like this) and I have no way to tell in what condition my son received it. I told him about how he is being extremely immoral. He simply replied "Sorry, MY Narset is still in great condition and HIS land is now in terrible condition" (exactly those words)I get pretty frustrated so I go to our store owner and explain the situation. My store owner talks to Beardman and said something pretty sweet. He told Beardman that he could either undo the trade and be welcomed to the store like always, or could refuse the trade and be welcomed to the store like a douchebag who cheated a kid.It was then that Beardman finally decided to undo the trade. My son was really happy and he ended up trading the Narset to the Store owner for one of each foil snow-covered land and 3 booster packs.Once again, I'd like to thank all of you for your help and am happy to answer any additional questions.

Now Beardman:

I didn't bother posting this immediately after because I knew I would just get flamed and trash-talked. Some time has passed so hopefully people can read the other side to the story.When I saw this post on reddit reddit! , I was baffled at how much of a filthy liar this guy is. He acts like such a nice guy online when in fact, he's just an attention-seeking asshole who isn't qualified to be a dad.two and a half weeks ago at our FNM, this guy came with his kid to FNM. He introduced his son to the game owner, took him to meet some of the other players, bought him a few packs (the kid didn't draft. the dad just bought him some DTK packs) and just LEFT HIM to start a game with others. The kid was left alone all by himself and he ended up sitting across from me at one of the tables doing nothing.Since I figured he should at least have something to do, I offered him to look through my binder. The kid was really enjoying it and then he came across the foil snow-covered mountain. He seemed to be particularly interested in it and asked me if he could have it. I explained that I couldn't give it to him, but I could trade for it. Once i explained it, he showed me some of his cards and here was the Narset. I was looking for Narsets and told him I would like to trade for his Narset. I ALSO EXPLAINED THAT THERE WAS A HUGE PRICE DIFFERENCE AND OFFERED MORE OF THE CARDS IN MY BINDER However, the kid said he only wanted the mountain.I'm not obligated to deny a trade if theres a mutual agreement. I don't know who would deny this but apparently everyone in this sub-reddit does. Anyways, after we traded, I told him to make sure this is okay with his dad so off he went to his dad to show off his new card. The dad didn't even pay attention to his son. He simply looked, (i guess not closely enough since he doesn't remember it according to his first post), and went back to playing the game.So the night sort of ends like that and the following week, the dad, leaving his son at one of the tables with the store owner, tells me that we need to talk. He explains the situation and asks that I undo the trade. Of course, I agree and he gives me the card that used to be mine. What I received was a crumpled card with bend lines all over. Who would simply undo the trade? I showed him the Narset that his son traded to me, which was still in NM condition since I double sleeve my cards and said it wouldn't be fair for me. Now the dad storms off to the storm owner and starts yelling so that all the other people at the store could hear. He literally started throwing a tantrum. His son was scared, everyone was disturbed, and it humiliated me. Then the shop owner comes to me and tells me to undo the trade. I respect the shop owner so I agree even though things CLEARLY ARN'T FAIR. You think it would end with the son trading with the store owner and being all happy but it doesn't end there. For the rest of the night, the dad went on babbling about how I was such a scammer and how he couldn't believe someone like me exists. He tells his son to never talk nor come near me. At a certain point, I get fed up and leave.I've been a regular at the store for 3 years now and know that I am never going there ever again. You guys had one side of the story, here was mine.I'm not going to bother replying because I know most of you will flame me anyway. Just wanted to share a story about a dad that's more immature than his 7 year old son.

So who was at fault (sorry if this is the wrong section) ? I think Dad overreacted, but beardman should still have demanded trade equalization or ask the dad himself. How bout you?