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Posted on April 24, 2015, 4:02 p.m. by Didgeridooda
Third time's a charm.
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NoviceMagician says... #2
@ThisIsBullshit Smash is the Wii version right? Or is it the WiiU version?
May 23, 2015 11:45 p.m.
Didgeridooda says... #3
Nooooo, 64 is best smash.
I hope they become easier to deal with.
May 23, 2015 11:48 p.m.
CanadianShinobi says... #4
NoviceMagician smash is smash. It's great. Don't be a hater.
May 23, 2015 11:48 p.m.
ThisIsBullshit says... #5
The Smash I play is Brawl Minus actually. It's pretty bad. Also, I never ever play so I'm just trasherino at it.
May 23, 2015 11:54 p.m.
NoviceMagician says... #7
@CanadianShinobim I wasn't hating on it . . . I love smash . . .
Marth is my main.
May 23, 2015 11:59 p.m.
If anyone's interested in trading Modern Masters stuff, I just updated my trade binder. Opened a box and 7 boosters, got 7 mythics and a bunch of good rares/uncommons and some foil uncommons.
May 24, 2015 12:01 a.m.
....and just read the last two pages. Geez, well, on the bright side... sumer vacation for most of you? I dunno. Sorry to hear it VA, and Tibs, I find that being extra cheerful and friendly around people you don't like when third parties are in the room really, really pisses the people you don't like off. Pretty satisfying, honestly. They get more and more annoyed they aren't having an effect on you, try extra hard, get busted for it and get even more pissed. It's a recurring cycle.
May 24, 2015 12:07 a.m.
ItchiUchiha117 says... #11
Mmmmm, orange chicken and body aches. Feels so good.
May 24, 2015 12:08 a.m.
NoviceMagician says... #12
@CanadianShinobi, :(
Ike is my backup main, and in the WiiU game, Wii Fit Trainer is my main.
May 24, 2015 12:10 a.m.
My friend and I both main King DeDeDe, and we play against our other 4 friends, who are all also very good. We play 2v4... and crush em. Double KingD is nothing to fuck with.
May 24, 2015 12:12 a.m.
CanadianShinobi says... #15
I used to main Link. But I sold my Wii ages ago.
May 24, 2015 12:17 a.m.
NoviceMagician says... #17
The two best people in my Smash group, one mains Jigglypuff, and the other mains Mr.Game & Watch.
May 24, 2015 12:20 a.m.
CanadianShinobi says... #18
Oh look everyone... kyuuri117 wants to have a round of
May 24, 2015 12:23 a.m.
By the time toon link finishes screaming his "HIYAAAH" with a craked voice, he's off the screen with a hammer mark on his face.
May 24, 2015 12:26 a.m.
CanadianShinobi says... #20
Somehow I think we lost track that Toon Link and Normal Link are 2 separate characters.
May 24, 2015 12:31 a.m.
ThisIsBullshit says... #21
Well we can't all main the most op character in the game can we now
May 24, 2015 12:34 a.m.
...lol why couldn't we? Nothing's stopping anyone from maining the king.
May 24, 2015 12:38 a.m.
ThisIsBullshit says... #24
Canada I was referring to DDD
Kyuuri well shit now this needs to happen
May 24, 2015 12:41 a.m.
Robin though. My friend gives me headaches with him. -.-
May 24, 2015 12:43 a.m.
NoviceMagician says... #26
Okay, I have a question:
Does the legend rule apply to every format? Because that kinda blows if it applies to every format.
I never really knew if it applied to Standard or not . . .
May 24, 2015 12:54 a.m.
VampireArmy says... #27
yep it applies everywhere unless the card states otherwise
May 24, 2015 12:54 a.m.
NoviceMagician says... #28
Wow, thanks for taking a giant shit on my face WoTC
Just kidding, I love you WoTC. <3
And thanks for answering VampireArmy! :)
Good night everyone! Good morning to others! Good evening to others! And finally good afternoon to others!
May 24, 2015 12:57 a.m.
...also, if anyone has any foil bounce lands... i want them.
Specifically, R/G, U/G, R/W, B/G, and G/W
May 24, 2015 1:03 a.m.
Yea. Tryna build bloom titan, and the foil karros look awesome. Need 3 R/G, 3 U/G, 1 R/G, 1 B/G and 1 G/W.
May 24, 2015 1:16 a.m.
VampireArmy says... #32
Man i hate that deck. It curb stomps me every time man
I've once boarded Blood Moon plus Slaughter Games vs it and still lost
May 24, 2015 1:25 a.m.
Pucatrade is cooperating quite nicely. Just got 2 pact of negations and 4 amulet's confirmed about half an hour after I posted em in my wants list.
May 24, 2015 1:42 a.m.
VampireArmy says... #34
Noice. Im having a harder time finding people to send cards to atm so my points are really low
Also there was a spider in my tub :( i almost cried. Now i have to spray all over the bathroom tomorrow
May 24, 2015 1:45 a.m.
VampireArmy says... #36
Aracnophobic. I was thrown into an old hot tub that hadn't been used in at least a decade when i was very young. The amount of things crawling on me before i got out was...indescribable. Now i have an extremely irrational fear of anything that even walks like a spider.
May 24, 2015 2:13 a.m.
VampireArmy A few days ago, my little sister sat on a spider nest filled with eggs, and had a TON of them crawling all over her.
I don't think I've ever heard her scream louder in my life.
May 24, 2015 2:20 a.m.
VampireArmy says... #38
Your Little sister understands then man. There is hardly anything more terrifying then being crawled on by them.
Like I'd rather be locked in a room with snakes
May 24, 2015 2:24 a.m.
CanadianShinobi says... #39
Ihave apiphobia and spheksophobia. Which isa fear of bees and wasps respectively.
May 24, 2015 2:32 a.m.
CanadianShinobi says... #41
Well I don't remember the event very well, but I ended up stumbling upon a wasps nest while I was a kid while on my way to go fishing with my dad.
Also I was stung by bees shortly after and basically they're one and the same to me. Yellow and black with stingers and fucking terrifying.
May 24, 2015 2:43 a.m.
VampireArmy says... #42
Ouch man. I got stung once. Turns out in allergic and never knew until then. My hand got all yellow and swollen. I thought it was a spider (of course) so i freaked out and went to the hospital. They were like yeah you'll be fine and sent me home after 5 mins. Get a bill for 500$ a week later. Never paid it to this day. went to settle it once but they passed it to a collection agency who then informed me that they lost my file. I lucked out
May 24, 2015 2:47 a.m.
American health care is not good for those who cannot really afford it, and absolutely fantastic for those who can. The issue is that it's expensive. However, the fact that it's expensive allows for the US to claim to have the best doctors in the world by a long shot. They get to charge what they like, unlike in other countries with free health care, so the best come here because they can get away with being expensive.
So it's a wide range, but it can be bad, and it can be fantastic depending on your financial situation.
May 24, 2015 3:09 a.m.
ItchiUchiha117 says... #45
I have gone from okay to shitty. Literally. My family locked one of the cats in my room all day and he shit. I can't find it because they also broke my light somehow yesterday. Everyone's asleep because it's one in the morning. I've been out of the house since seven in the morning and I'll be leaving at the same time today. I... I want a hug.
May 24, 2015 4:26 a.m.
elpokitolama says... #46
(Hug Itchi 'cuz he needs it) Wow man, I've seen bad days but... That's... Brutal. Need more hugz? :<
GUYS I FUCKING MADE IT
With 2 neutral air instead of three tho :B
Still unable to do that kind of crazy ass thing, but, y'know, it's still fine.
May 24, 2015 5:57 a.m.
kyuuri117 - "However, the fact that it's expensive allows for the US to claim to have the best doctors in the world by a long shot. "
Extremely false. You are equating the cost of the healthcare service to the pay of the doctors themselves. A doctor in the UK gets paid an equivalent salary to a doctor in the US even though the healthcare they are providing is free for the client. I do not think you understand how healthcare actually works? The NHS is free to its clients but stills costs the UK billions of pounds - which we all pay for in taxes. Therefore there is little to no financial advantage for a healthcare worker working in the US compared to the UK (I am a healthcare worker by the way). In FACT public health systems occasionally overpay their staff because the exist outside of supply-and-demand economics. They get paid based on national taxes so there's more money available to them than there would be from a privatised system.
Furthermore under a privatised system each individual hospital has less purchasing power than under a public system because theres no centralised pool of funds. So for example a UK hospital will have billions of pounds available to it that it could get its hands on. Whereas a US hospital only has access to the funds it can raise through clients (which won't be anywhere near the same amount). This means that privatised healthcare often lacks specialised machinery because they cannot afford it. An MRI machine for example is far too expensive for a private company to afford BUT in a public system its affordable because essentially its crowdfunded. Public healthcare is like one big kickstarter in some ways - everyone puts in a tiny amount of money and suddenly the healthcare system can afford literally anything they want. What you typically see in a countries with both public and private healthcare systems is that the private hospitals end up 'borrowing' the big machinery from public hospitals because they cannot afford as many. A private hospital may typically have 2 or 3 MRIS. A public hospital here would have anywhere up to 6-8. It's astounding how much more purchasing power you get from taxes as compared to actual clients.
The third problem with US healthcare is that it gives service providers too much autonomy to decide what to charge for specific procedures, and how to do specific procedures. In a public system there's a centralised committee that establishes what can and cannot be done in order to regulate budgeting and safety. In a private system you often find that doctors and surgeons are willing to just "have a go at it" because there isn't as stringent policy on what is allowed. It typically results in very gung-ho, risky behaviour because a privatised system allows anyone to do anything for a price, which is absolutely morally wrong - when the providers should first of all be admitting to their clients "actually this is really stupid and we don't think its going to work but we like the money so we'll give it a go!". A situation that physically can't happen in a public system, at all. There are still rules and regulations, obviously - but there a private system has fewer centralised bodies watching all the doctors making sure that everything they're doing is ok. It's less regulated and for a client that's a very bad thing.
The fourth problem with a privatised system is that it treats clients like a commodity which blurs ethical and financial lines. As a healthcare professional it is absolutely not ok to view patients as just "those guys that pay my bills for me". When this start happens you have a system that survives literally by perpetuating itself. The ethical conundrum is that a privatised healthcare system only survives on sick people and there is therefore impetus to prioritise treatment (stopping people dying) over cure (stopping people getting sick in the first place or completely removing illness). Treatment is a fantastic money maker because it means people come back. Cure is a massive money loss because its expensive and loses you clients. Again, this is something that physically can't happen in a public system because it operates outside of supply and demand economics - the UKs NHS receives its budget no matter how many people turn up therefore it is not in a providers best interest to prioritise a type of treatment that keeps people coming back over one that cures them completely. In a privatised system this is something that CAN happen and is therefore a problem.
Also anecdotally (this doesn't count for much). I have done a tour of the worlds best hospitals and my experiences in the US have been some of the absolute worst. I've been to John Hopkins, Boston Children's, Massachusetts general, etc. My experiences in the US have been among the worst, and it all boils down to one simple reason: Because healthcare in the US is contingent on you paying they don't treat you any differently or give a shit if you do. They're not driven by any kind of client satisfaction because they know they will get paid regardless of how you feel. You are not special to be giving them lots of money - you're just another piece of meat going through the system. It's completely ludicrous. Compared to the NHS the atmosphere is so, so different. A public health service removes money from the equation entirely so you don't get this sense of arrogant entitlement or pomposity. The NHS survives on numbers and results. A private health system doesn't - it just survives on income. Results are in their best interest but client satisfaction isn't (not in a country with 300 million people - there's no point!). Therefore there's a different culture in a public system - a different expectation. I've experienced this personally and I'm trying to put it into words but I'm not sure I'm quite doing it successfully. Essentially private systems care about acclaim and fame at the detriment of the client whereas public systems care only about mortality rates and couldn't give a shit about how famous they are across the world. Different priorities breed different client experiences.
Also MOST CRUCIALLY - Everyone always neglects the fact that public systems in countries ALWAYS exist alongside private systems. If I live in the UK and have no money I can go to the NHS and get treated for free. Great. If I live in the UK and have lots of money and want special treatment at a time that suits me, and want to choose the best doctor in the country then I can contact him privately and pay lots of money. We have private healthcare too. I have no idea why people always forget this. We have the exact same system as the US AND we also have a free system so that poor people don't die of easily curable diseases. It's not rocket science to implement a two tiered system. So therefore not only is public healthcare in many ways superior to private healthcare from an academic perspective and from my own personal experience but if you're determined to waste your money you CAN go privately too!
America has some of the largest and most famous doctors and clinics in the world you can't deny that and there's no point trying to do so. Good for them - but so what? If you look at actual mortality rates it fares about averagely with other developed nations. The most developed country with the best healthcare outcomes in the world is Japan if you look at actual healthcare figures such as cancer survival rates.
May 24, 2015 6:34 a.m.
(for reference: Japan has almost completely government subsidised healthcare).
May 24, 2015 6:38 a.m.
I've read a fair deal into this topic, and had always felt that a private system with government subsidies made the most sense... Of course, most everything I'd read was from an American point of view.
I'd like to point out what you said about the ethics of a solely private healthcare system. My more conservative friends rave about public healthcare opening the door for the government to get back into eugenics. However, as you pointed out, our current system is in an actual state of ethical decline while their mindset is based on fear mongering and group think.
But, y'know. Murica is the best cuz bald eagles n shit.
May 24, 2015 6:59 a.m.
elpokitolama says... #50
Keep Calm And France health care guyz ~~
Haterz gonna hate ~~
ThisIsBullshit says... #1
Didg, they're here until Wednesday morning, and then they come back on Saturday. They're making life so fuckin difficult right now.
I'm escaping to my friend's house all afternoon tomorrow to play magic and smash.
May 23, 2015 11:40 p.m.