Just Chatting - Take 3
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Posted on April 24, 2015, 4:02 p.m. by Didgeridooda
Third time's a charm.
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GoldGhost012 says... #5
Do it because I can't. Allow me to play vicariously through you.
May 19, 2016 7:04 p.m.
So, CAD software is super duper. I'm doing FTC next year, so my class (of 5.5 people mind you) is all doing CAD. It's actually quite fun. I'm probably not going to use it, since I'm ass at machine design, but it's useful, I guess? idk.
Is Hearthstone cheaper than MTG? I've kinda been getting interested in it. I'll probs never quit MTG, but until I get a job, I have no means of buying my dream deck, Naya Burn. Is Naya Burn even good anymore? lmao
May 20, 2016 9:22 a.m.
DERPLINGSUPREME says... #7
@6tennis agreeing fully with the CAD thing dude, super handy.
May 20, 2016 10:02 a.m.
oh also, I have a Discord server now here. Basically it's just meme spam, and we play games I guess.
May 20, 2016 11:41 a.m.
I'm having a bit of a conundrum atm. I play a UW combo control deck in edh. The commander is arbiter/hanna. That part is pretty irrelevant since the deck is essentially mono u combo with a splash of w. Recently, I've been debating wherever to continue being UW or go mono U.
The two combos used in the deck are Arcanis + mind over matter and etherium sculptor + sensei's + future sight both into lab maniac.
The deck is doing ok. It's essentially losing only to money right now and there's very little I can do about that.
The pros of going blue are:
- a better landbase
- high tide for ridiculous turns
- one of my combo pieces becomes my general
The pros of staying uw:
- better spot removal and board wipes
- better sideboard
- better tutors
- ability to answer enchantments/artifacts outside of counters.
Thoughts?
Also went to Fnm last night with my meme deck. Got totally stomped, as expected.
May 21, 2016 1:04 p.m.
ducttapedeckbox says... #10
CAD is a great tool to learn as early as possible. You can do some incredible things with it, aside from physically printing what you make. FEA is a very cool thing.
What software are you using 6tennis?
May 21, 2016 1:59 p.m.
ducttapedeckbox Autodesk Fusion 360. It's relatively user-friendly, and there are loads of resources to help you learn.
May 21, 2016 2:13 p.m.
ducttapedeckbox says... #12
Flight leaves soon, the one before mine (same destination) didn't fill B1-30 (Southwest). For those who haven't flown SW, they do A,B, and C 1-30 and 30-60 as their boarding groups.
The flight was HALF EMPTY! I'm hoping the same is for my flight. I don't care that I'm not the tallest person, leg room incoming!
May 21, 2016 5:26 p.m.
6tennis Actually heard about Discord about a month ago and forgot to download it, thanks for the reminder.
May 21, 2016 6:13 p.m.
Epochalyptik says... #15
Passed the CISSP exam in a third of the allotted time. I can finally have my life back now.
I decided to take another look at my old custom set, and I'm working on writing cohesive lore.
May 22, 2016 11:19 a.m.
Epochalyptik You should pop into our Discord, we could use a few extra filler cards for our Unset :3
May 22, 2016 12:13 p.m.
ItchiUchiha117 says... #18
You kidding? I got I at 12:05 on April 12th. Haven't beaten it yet, but that's mostly because of other time constraints. Those and the Irithyll Dungeon right now. Fuck that place. Thought Farron Keep was bad, but this is worse.
May 22, 2016 6:55 p.m.
SamCre1993 says... #19
A lot of people hate on advertisements, but I saw the Litehouse ranch on this site, decided to try it, and it was delicious.
May 22, 2016 7:57 p.m.
I've legit NEVER clicked on an ad online on purpose or consciously decided to spend on something as a result of seeing an ad online.
May 22, 2016 8:34 p.m.
ThisIsBullshit says... #21
TheDevicer didn't you literally just change that deck from mono-U to UW?
May 23, 2016 10:40 a.m.
Not really. I used to play in a meta where everyone proxied 1-4K decks and everything went. I have now started playing in a shop with actual cards. Money is a real issue. Same basic deck design but the U/W deck I threw together is not the same as my OG mono U deck. Granted, I kept that deck together in my original meta because it was good but not great. That made playing it a bit of a challenge.
There's only two decks I'm struggling against atm. It's all about the $$$. It's hard to fight counter wars vs a deck rocking pact/force/etc. when you've got counterspell.
May 23, 2016 11:02 a.m.
Coinman1863 says... #23
ThisIsBullshit, how do you feel about that Sneak Attack reprint?
I'm personally hyped about the Mana Crypt reprint as I already preordered a box.
May 23, 2016 3:37 p.m.
Just got blocked by a guy with a rather bad token deck, but he's convinced it's the best thing since sliced bread. I did admittedly lose my temper a few times in the conversation, so I'm not completely without fault. But the deck was just bad man.
May 23, 2016 4:41 p.m.
ItchiUchiha117 says... #25
So, I just read through the entirety of that conversation and I just have to say: Wow, that dude's head is shoved so far up his ass, it's not even funny.
May 23, 2016 5:04 p.m.
I like how he says his team has won various things and then quotes like a 100th place finish and a few not-even-top-8. I mean I guess anyone can do whatever they want and everyone's meta is different but yeah it makes little sense to run things like colorless cards that keep you off key plays or lands that literally trade your advantageous go wide strategy for a single threat that's fairly easily answered by a host of common lists.
May 23, 2016 5:16 p.m.
I'd like to think that my analysis of his deck's flaws was fairly logical and on point, but he just dismissed it as me not testing the deck and not knowing what I'm talkingr about. Most infuriating.
May 23, 2016 5:34 p.m.
ThisIsBullshit says... #28
Coinman1863 already got my set with flavor text so meh but this looks fun as hell so far
May 23, 2016 6:35 p.m.
ducttapedeckbox says... #29
I didn't read the conversation very closely, but I don't think his numbers added up. What's that saying? Half of all statistics are made up? I find that to be especially true when people don't round. Not sure why, but 3.4% looks more legitimate than 3%, but is more often made up. Maybe that's a personal opinion.
Oh well, I wouldn't think about it xzzane. The extent that you are able to write about Tokens and the nearly 2000 comments on one of your decks alone shows that you are one of the most knowledge people to go to for the deck. Very few people (maybe just one) doubt that.
May 23, 2016 7:01 p.m.
Oh, I don't let his opinion bother me. I can easily point out all the flaws to his logic and choices; the fact that he chooses to see me as just trolling is simply something I have to accept. I just hope he doesn't try to spread his "revolutionary and progressive" token deck ideas to other users on this site. To a new token player abbey could seem like a perfectly good card.
May 23, 2016 7:16 p.m.
To be fair, I've been mistaken about cards in the past, and revised my opinion on them. Abbey won't be one of those cards though haha.
May 23, 2016 7:22 p.m.
ThisIsBullshit says... #32
Jesus Christ Zane I know he's bad but I think you took it a bit far on that deck critique
May 23, 2016 7:23 p.m.
I didn't think I was rude or anything, did it come off as a bit too strong?
May 23, 2016 7:42 p.m.
VampireArmy says... #37
Savage...but useless. You can't fix every token deck that you see. I've noticed that you try. I tried to be the mardu guy for a while too but honestly no one cares for random advice.
May 23, 2016 9:08 p.m.
I can't fix them all, but enough are receptive enough for it to at least be worth it. If I had someone to give me advice back in the day I could have saved several hundred dollars on cards that I ended up not using.
May 23, 2016 9:10 p.m.
I dunno. I used to do a ton of EDH deck help, but I only gave help to those who asked for it. People seemed to genuinely appreciate it and implemented many of my suggestions.
May 23, 2016 9:36 p.m.
VampireArmy says... #41
Not that i advocate for not spreading the knowledge or anything. Maybe identifying when it's a lost cause better would be a better way to put it
May 23, 2016 11:13 p.m.
Unfortunately I'm a bit too stubborn to properly identify a lost cause haha.
May 23, 2016 11:29 p.m.
DERPLINGSUPREME says... #43
@xzzane yknow, the guy isn't ALL wrong.
he's mostly wrong.
Westvale Abbey Flip is totally fine in tokens. as a sideboard card against decks with lots of wraths or beef.
1 of it in main is also okay in case the game goes long.
he's stupid to play 6 colorless though. it makes it clog a lot.
May 23, 2016 11:32 p.m.
From a competitive viewpoint abbey is bad in tokens. This is coming from having actually tested it as well. In casual games, sure. But I would never advise using it in a competitive list. The extreme mana investment and lifeloss make creating a token unwieldy, and the flip encourages overextending among other things. The lifeloss is really relevant; tokens hurts itself a lot through blossom, shocks, etc. as it is. If someone ever wants to test it as a 1 of in a competitive list, I'd advise against it, but it'd be their choice. But 3 is just absurd.
May 23, 2016 11:35 p.m.
Ohthenoises says... #45
Disclaimer: I'm not a tokens player. I play U/w Tron, affinity, and 8 whack. (Used to play bloom Titan RIP)
I can see where derp is coming from on the sideboard mention.
You don't want Abbey game 1 against Abzan, that's true but what are the chances they side out their Paths game 2 because pathing a token feels bad? Chances are they are going to side in Declaration in stone if they run it and maelstrom pulse/r-bomb. As a sideboard 1-2x I can see bringing it in To next level them on game 2 as a response to R-bomb or pulse. With that being said you don't side out your colored lands for that, you side out stuff like GQ since Abzan runs basics and it may not help enough.
Treating Abbey like LSV does with his aristocrats deck would be the way to play it from the sideboard. Wait till they find a way to deal with your board and then respond by making a beatstick.
As far as mainboard? Nooooooope.
May 23, 2016 11:52 p.m.
Hero of Bladehold makes a better option for sideboard than abbey in terms of using it when they take out removal. You don't have to overextend to use her and she's a monster purely by herself.
May 23, 2016 11:54 p.m.
DERPLINGSUPREME says... #47
I had totally forgot about that mana part of that....
for a low curve deck getting to turn 5 should be your win turn, so using it is redundant as well as imperative to the strategy
May 23, 2016 11:55 p.m.
Ohthenoises says... #48
I'm just saying that I could see the case being made. Hero dies a lot easier than Abbey does after all.
I'm not saying that it's good, simply that I could see it as being useful in some cases. Particularly against someone playing the "R-bomb, pass, wait 'till you go to combat." game.
May 24, 2016 12:05 a.m.
Ohthenoises says... #49
So while I have you here Xzzane, this happened the other day and I think you might appreciate it: As a UTron deck I out tokensed tokens. :D
Managed to stabilize with a o-stone + Academy Ruins and then Thopter Foundry started doing work even through grave hate.
May 24, 2016 12:08 a.m. Edited.
I could see abbey being used as a one of in the side if you have a meta full of super grindy control decks. Having an ability to make tokens without them being able to counter it would be very useful. But that would be very meta-specific, and I wouldn't recommend it for an unknown meta or large event to be honest. And that's fantastic haha.
Arvail says... #1
Pro_Noob RN:
May 19, 2016 3:55 p.m.