Actual Bfz Spoiler thread.
Spoilers, Rumors, and Speculation forum
Posted on Aug. 28, 2015, 5:17 p.m. by TheNextRedDude
Because so many requested it, heres a place to talk about all the spoilers that don't deserve threads of their own.
REMEMBER:
Zendikar Expeditions occur at the same rarity as a Foil Mythic Rare. Are NOT legal in Standard unless their counterpart is legal in Standard. And are ALL FOIL.
August 29, 2015 11:19 p.m.
Justin_Bop says... #6
This foil premium mythic land thing better not be a limited print product or I will cry because if it is, the product is already sold out, 100% guaranteed.
August 29, 2015 11:21 p.m.
So the shocks are around $10 right now for RTR-GTC versions, so these full art foil ones that occur about as rare as a foil mythic will probably start preorders at $50+ and I bet stabilize around $40+. Right?
Also see here for the zendikar expedition's and their playability.
August 29, 2015 11:22 p.m. Edited.
The fetches aren't Standard legal, just to let everyone know.
And since these are so rare and foil, they probably won't affect price too much. But they are still amazing.
August 29, 2015 11:23 p.m.
Damn, I love these expeditions, but I hate foils... :/
August 29, 2015 11:24 p.m.
Calling it right now, the 20 zendikar expeditions in the second set will be the filter lands and the check lands.
August 29, 2015 11:26 p.m.
VampireArmy says... #12
These duals aren't really eternal playble Imo. That basic clause
August 29, 2015 11:27 p.m.
Hi_diddly_ho_neighbor says... #13
Yay everyone gets the lands they want, and the best part is the fetches won't be standard legal so they won't break the format!
August 29, 2015 11:28 p.m.
VampireArmy - it depends on the deck. Legacy manabases are built around Wasteland, so basics are often played. And there are certainly Modern decks where they will be played more often than the Shocks. They aren't better than the shocks b/c you can't play a one drop off of them, but a Jeskai control deck or Abzan usually doesn't have much going on for Turn 1 anyways.
August 29, 2015 11:29 p.m.
These new fetches probably aren't going to lower the already high prices of the zendi fetches, which makes me sad.
August 29, 2015 11:30 p.m.
VampireArmy says... #16
Then there's no difference anyways. You'd fetch and choose not to shock. Do these decks run enough basics to want these over shocks?
August 29, 2015 11:31 p.m.
VampireArmy - At the end of the day, probably not. The utility of being able to play a 1 drop is probably too huge to pass up. But in the late game, one of these is better than a shock if you have two basics in play. Gives you access to more mana.
August 29, 2015 11:32 p.m.
brendenfinn says... #18
Baltec it's gonna create a new market for the old fetches. If these are a limited print run, which it most likely is, the demand may make them even more expensive.
August 29, 2015 11:33 p.m.
WovenNebula says... #19
August 29, 2015 11:33 p.m.
It's going to be VERY hard for me to buy a box of BFZ and NOT bust it open in hopes of getting one (or two) of these. But the long-term value of the sealed product is there.
August 29, 2015 11:34 p.m.
GreenGhost says... #21
Well that was a lot of excitement today. I think I'll just crawl into a hole now and await October peacefully as to avoid too much excitement. Oh right and preorder a box.
August 29, 2015 11:35 p.m.
IvoryFrost says... #22
Wizards is just going to be rolling in the money....
August 29, 2015 11:35 p.m.
ducttapedeckbox says... #24
I'm with you on that JWiley129. Highly considering buying a box and sitting on it. I really want to crack this set though.
August 29, 2015 11:36 p.m.
brendenfinn says... #26
ducttapedeckbox so just buy 2, one to crack and one to sit on. I'll probably end up doing that until I crack and open the 2nd box haha
August 29, 2015 11:40 p.m.
http://www.magicspoiler.com/mtg-spoiler/ulamog-the-ceaseless-hunger/
August 29, 2015 11:40 p.m.
IvoryFrost says... #29
JWiley129...more money.
I'm very interested in the number of sales both this set and the next set.
August 29, 2015 11:41 p.m.
SomethingRandom says... #30
brendenfinn assuming we all have $200 to drop on MTG
August 29, 2015 11:41 p.m.
Holy cock! The unadulterated value! I bet they'll be $700 boxes in 5 years.
August 29, 2015 11:42 p.m.
I'm excited to see Kalitas, now that he's under Eldrazi management.
August 29, 2015 11:45 p.m.
brendenfinn says... #33
SomethingRandom it's not like I have the money either, just a suggestion. the 2nd set boxes is where the money will really be at, with the chance at full art foil fetches and shock lands.
August 29, 2015 11:46 p.m.
Dalektable says... #34
This is too much good stuff in one sitting...I am freaking out man. This is crazy, that new gideon is AWESOME! And the full art shocks and fetches that appear about as often as mythics, the new sweet duals, awesome eldrazi, new good removal...jesus christ.
August 29, 2015 11:47 p.m.
FAMOUSWATERMELON says... #35
"Huh, maybe there are some new spoilers.""
Checks spoilers online
HOLYSHITNOWAYNEWULAMOGNEWGIDEONFETCHABLELANDSFULLARTLANDSFULLARTFETCHLANDSFULLARTSHOCKSIMIGHTJUSTDIERIGHTNOW
August 29, 2015 11:48 p.m.
ducttapedeckbox says... #36
@ brendenfinn -- The way I heard it was 25 Zendikar Expeditions in BFZ and 20 in the next set. The 25 in this set are the new lands, and all the fetches and shocks.
August 29, 2015 11:48 p.m.
MagicalHacker says... #37
Ow, my brain hurts.
The new lands are interesting... Who thought that they would want fetches grabbing duals in standard... huh.
Also, new Ulamog looks pretty sick! Gideon is super awesome! I need to change my pants now.
August 29, 2015 11:50 p.m.
ducttapedeckbox says... #38
I'm on my third pair now, M a g i c a l H a c k e r.
August 29, 2015 11:51 p.m.
IvoryFrost says... #39
okaY I calmed down a little
I know the full arts are just to sell boxes/packs and it's really a brilliant move.But who knows, maybe the raised the amount of foil mythics you could get.
and did Mark hint at the enemy fetchs being reprinted in the next set?
August 29, 2015 11:52 p.m.
Programmer_112 says... #40
so, does anybody want to speculate on the price of a full art foil Scalding Tarn?
August 29, 2015 11:52 p.m.
brendenfinn says... #41
@ducttapedeckbox I wasn't sure, they way that I understood it from the stream is that the 20 for the next set were the the shocks and fetches.
August 29, 2015 11:53 p.m.
ducttapedeckbox says... #43
A friend and I are trying to rewatch to see, brendenfinn. I heard 25-20, he heard 5-20 like you.
Anyone want to weigh in?
Also, Programmer_112 - Probably one of your kidneys... Maybe part of your liver too.
August 29, 2015 11:54 p.m.
brendenfinn says... #44
Programmer_112 considering the original ones are about $75 and these will be printed in fewer numbers, easily over $100
August 29, 2015 11:56 p.m.
NoPantsParade says... #45
So are these lands going to be in BFZ 1? I might go ahead and buy a box then if so.
August 29, 2015 11:56 p.m.
GoldGhost012 says... #46
I MUST GO, MY ELDRAZI NEED ME
I'm never expecting to see any of these cool cards in paper, but damn, what a way to increase box sales. New lands looks really cool too.
I'm currently in possession of a first-class ticket aboard the hype train. Choo choo!
August 29, 2015 11:56 p.m.
There are 45 total Zendikar Expeditions. 25 in BFZ, 20 in "Sweat". The 25 in BFZ are the five allied dual lands, and the others are the full 10 fetchlands and the full 10 Shocklands ALL flavored for Zendikar.
EDIT: Just look at the Steam Vents, it's 12 of 45.
August 29, 2015 11:57 p.m. Edited.
ducttapedeckbox says... #48
August 29, 2015 11:58 p.m.
NoPantsParade says... #49
Anything about full arts in fat packs? Time to buy a booster box, I guess.
August 29, 2015 11:58 p.m.
brendenfinn says... #50
ducttapedeckbox I heard 25-20 too, but they didn't completely specify when the reprints were being made available. The way it was being implied, the fetches and shocks are being reprinted for Sweat.
nayrash5 says... #1
And we thought fetches weren't returning. They are in the most cheese ball way possible.
August 29, 2015 11:18 p.m.