Anything good left to return in Zendikar?

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Posted on Aug. 9, 2015, 7:52 p.m. by Harashiohorn

Battle for Zendikar is still a while out so we don't know all that much about what will actually be included in the set. We do however know quite a lot about what's NOT going to be returning in Battle for Zendikar. Enemy colored Fetchlands are out, annihilator won't be returning, and Jace TMS isn't coming to standard any time soon. All this begs the question, what good cards are left in Zendikar? (Full art lands are great but they can't carry a set on their own)


Update:

In Eldrazi News: We now know that two eldrazi key words are "Devoid" which makes the card colorless regardless of its mana cost (See Ghostfire) and "Ingest" which exiles N cards from the top of the opponents library every time the creature deals damage to a player. Devoid is just keywording an already existing ability, and mostly just allows WOTC to strap prohibitive mana colors to eldrazi while maintaining the flavor of them, and is mostly just flavor utility (And tribal utility). Ingest is what we get instead of Annihilator and was anticipated to be a step down, however it seems to be a more or less useless win-more ability that only becomes useful AFTER you've already dealt a large sum of damage to your opponent.

In Non Eldrazi News: Allies are back, but have yet to showcase their power level. And land animation will be a new big mechanic, which is cool except for the fact cards like Fiery Impulse just got printed, and now read "One Mana, destroy target land".

Is there anything I'm missing here that's particularly good?

VampireArmy says... #2

New eldrazi, more goblins elves and merfolk. Allies, brand new land we've never seen, huge creatures. Like dude if you're not hyped for zendikar as a plane then i can't help you

August 9, 2015 7:58 p.m.

Landfall! And better yet more baloths!!!!

August 9, 2015 8:02 p.m.

SpartanCEL says... #4

Full


Art


Lands

August 9, 2015 8:06 p.m.

GreenGhost says... #5

August 9, 2015 8:13 p.m.

Gale7 says... #6

Stoneforge Mystic reprint would be nice :P

August 9, 2015 8:23 p.m.

Harashiohorn says... #7

@VampireArmy

I get that were getting back some popular tribals and mechanics, but will any of it be good? Eldrazi (from what we've seen so far)seem a lot less... Eldrazi-ey, the tribals were all interesting, but none are that unique (elves were in origins pretty thoroughly). New lands will be cool when they come out, but new lands tend to not outperform the power of fetch-shock or fetch-betaland and landfall will struggle without fetchlands in limited. I suppose what I'm trying to say is this set seems like a huge step down compared to original Zendikar block, kind of a Zendikar-lite if you will, with all of the star players from the first not returning. Could you imagine ravnica without shocklands and niv-mizzet or Mirrodin without Collosi and insane artifact ramp"

August 9, 2015 8:25 p.m.

VampireArmy says... #8

Where you're seeing worse, I'm seeing different. We don't know what the eldrazi have in store. Would you say that jarad was a good indicator of what was to come in rtr?

August 9, 2015 8:45 p.m.

ComradeJim270 says... #9

No annihilator? I already like this set.

Seriously though, I'm significantly less hyped about this set than a lot of people I know. It's not a super-credible opinion because I wasn't playing during Zendikar, but everything I know about it suggests it's not really going to be my style at all, but I'm not planning to keep up with standard anymore so that doesn't bother me.

August 9, 2015 8:49 p.m.

Harashiohorn says... #10

@Vampirearmy

It's true we don't really know what's in store and maybe it will be great.

I would point out though that before Scars of Mirrodin we didn't get a preview of "partsteel colossus" a 9/9 for 10 that instead of indestructible and trample had "target opponent puts the top 4 cards of his or her library into their graveyard" which I would say is a more apt comparison that Jarad.

August 9, 2015 8:58 p.m.

O-higgs says... #11

I just want to see more of Ob-Nixilis. And some dank lands.

August 9, 2015 9:59 p.m.

Zuckfat says... #12

I must be waaay behind on magic news. So Wizards said no enemy fetches?

August 10, 2015 4:54 a.m.

Rayenous says... #13

@Zuckfat

Yes, MaRo stated "Yes" to full-art, and "No" to fetches, but there will be newly designed dual lands.

Source: Here

August 10, 2015 7:57 a.m.

Zuckfat says... #14

Thanks!

August 11, 2015 6:33 a.m.

MarkerD says... #15

This is the culmination of so many stories in Magic. I'm sure we won't be disappointed

August 12, 2015 7:59 p.m.

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