April 2016: Shadows over Innistrad
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Posted on Oct. 31, 2015, 6:42 p.m. by JWiley129
Announced during GP Indy, the Spring 2016 set is Shadows over Innistrad!
Edits for FAQ:
- Here is Mark Rosewater on why we're getting two returns in a row.
Stormcaller: she is doing it on innistrad to punish sorin
March 8, 2016 4:50 p.m.
Nightdragon779 says... #3
Well, I'm gonna assume Tamiyo is in the second set because she is studying the moon, and the second set is namely, Eldritch Moon. Also, all we find here in SoI is her journal, so she might have gone missing. If she is getting printed, it would make more sense to be in the second set.
Heres what I think: First set: Jace, Sorin, and Nahiri
Second Set: Tamiyo (if she's alive), perhaps Tibalt (hopefully better than first version), Liliana maybe? (She's on the image for Eldritch Moon) - If not, then Nahiri goes to second set
March 8, 2016 4:58 p.m.
JohnnyBaggins says... #4
I would not out-rule the possibility that an entirely bloodcrazed, revengeful, hatred-driven Nahiri turns out to be an antagonist.
Pick the brain is too expensive to be playbale. In Standard Control - should such a thing exist - maybe, but nowhere else.
March 8, 2016 5:04 p.m.
Nightdragon779, they've already confirmed a werewolf Walker, so one of those slots is going to have to go to her (Arlinn)
March 8, 2016 5:06 p.m.
JohnnyBaggins says... #6
First set is some-what close to 100% set with Jace, Arlinn and Sorin. Jace is on the Boosters, the Displays, the Prerelease Boxes and pretty much everything. Arlinn and Sorin are already confirmed. I'm fairly certain that Liliana is in the Eldrich Moon, again, being the poster child of that edition, so either Tamiyo or Nahiri are only part of the story and don't get a card or - and I can't quite imagine they do that - they break up the 5-walkers-per-set-paradigm.
March 8, 2016 5:14 p.m.
Nightdragon779 Lobotomy! Not Memoricide. We'll actually, Lobotomy can hit nonbasics, but...
It may see play as a punisher of slow, counter-free decks that rely on only few win-cons. There are a couple of decks like that. Or, you know, it could just be a better Transgress. I mean, it takes up turn 3 instead of turn 2, but otherwise it is pretty much just better.
March 8, 2016 5:23 p.m.
EverythingIsK says... #8
I'm not really a fan of Tamiyo tbh, she's just been really boring to me ever since she came into existence. I'd really love in the Eldritch Moon set be Liliana and Tibalt and/or Nahiri (depending if they do three walkers in each set, which is unlikely).
My guess for Jace is he's going to be a 5+ cmc walker with 4-5 loyalty, with similar power levels to Jace, Architect of Thought and Jace, Telepath Unbound (I'd be really hopeful for a better Jace, the Living Guildpact honestly).
I'm hoping Sorin gets a different theme of a card other than a token deck's wet dream, like closer to Sorin Markov, but with some differences of course.
As for the rest of them, I'll be happy with what ever they give us, they're mostly new and I'd be interested in what comes.
March 8, 2016 7:05 p.m.
Nightdragon779 says... #10
smackjack Cat lady for the win! She was my first planeswalker, I have a personal connection to tamiyo
March 8, 2016 7:27 p.m.
From what's been shown so far, Nahiri looks to be a big part of this block. I mean, Ob Nixilis got a card in BFZ, and he didn't have a huge impact on the story besides bringing Kozilek back (which was huge, but that was about it). So far, Nahiri has pretty much destroyed Markov Manor and all of the vampires, as well as make the cryptolyphs (hope that's spelt right lol). If the theory is true that she is also attempting to awaken an ancient god-being/invite Emrakul to Innistrad, then that is quite a lot of stuff that a single character is doing in a block. I don't see why she wouldn't have a card. At least it makes more sense than printing another Tibalt, although the character does need some justice done to him, as his first iteration was terribad.
March 8, 2016 7:30 p.m.
Also, original Zendikar block had six Planeswalkers, so it's plausible that they would put six in this block because of story reasons.
March 8, 2016 7:33 p.m.
EverythingIsK says... #13
From what we've seen so far, Tamiyo is just there again. Remember the picture of Sorin slaying Avacyn? Yup, that's her again, just there. She has a journal. I guess she has that going for her. I don't think she'll get a card since Jace is most likely getting a card, and they are both Blue mages, unless Tamiyo goes into another color.
March 8, 2016 7:38 p.m.
JohnnyBaggins says... #14
March 8, 2016 7:49 p.m. Edited.
18 tokens. thats ALOT of tokens, unless we get lots of different clue arts. also, is this the first token with flavor text?
March 8, 2016 8:09 p.m.
yep, they're trying to summon the god of sea and storms
March 8, 2016 8:10 p.m.
canterlotguardian says... #21
CheeseBro yep it's the first token to ever have flavor text.
March 8, 2016 8:24 p.m.
FAMOUSWATERMELON says... #22
I think it's some octopus or sea monster, from the flavor text. But it could well be Spaghettis.
March 8, 2016 8:26 p.m.
EverythingIsK says... #23
Here's another theory I found while browsing Tumblr.
I can't not see this as canon, as it about explains everything else that isn't squid-monster related.
March 8, 2016 8:47 p.m.
JohnnyBaggins says... #24
Here's another one: Tasigur is actually a planeswalker and Ugin will marry a Pikachu that throws Lightning Bolts but those cost Yellow mana. Doesn't make sense? Nah, but all this other stuff doesn't either.
March 8, 2016 8:54 p.m.
FAMOUSWATERMELON says... #25
This is when I wish that we could plus comments.
March 8, 2016 8:57 p.m.
Do we still have the wall of comedy somewhere because comment 1264 by JohnnyBaggins made my sides hurt from laughing so hard and since I can't upvote a comment I'd like to vote for his recognition there instead.
March 8, 2016 9:15 p.m.
shepherdofire says... #27
I think that Nahiri is trying to destroy innistrad because shes mad sorin never called her back after their last date. its the planeswalker equivalent of keying a car after a break up. You can say she has a...................... HEART OF STONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
March 8, 2016 9:16 p.m.
Guys, More decks:
IS ABZAN SERIOUSLY NOT DEAD!? CMON ALREADY:
Standard Abzan Show
Unfortunately, this still seems good. Fortunately, these colors are no longer broken and overrun with Rhinos and anafenzas.
As a sidenote, I have Dead Weight in every deck with Mindbreak demon in it to hedge against the delirium cost. Dono if thats necessary, but im being safe.
March 8, 2016 10:08 p.m.
MurderHood says... #29
@Ashockfan I love your deck lists! Imo, you are really obsessed with Heir of Falkenwrath lol :p. If you ever need help testing, I can play test occasionally.
March 8, 2016 10:12 p.m.
wait... hold up.... Since when does Silumgar Assassin exist and why was it never played? also, it has skulk :D
March 8, 2016 10:20 p.m.
MurderHood Thanks dude! Glad you like my lists.
Imo, why AREN'T you obsessed with Heir of Falkenwrath? 2 mana 3/2 flyer? sign me up! If the deck is black, he goes in :D
Id be down to test sometime. Ill friend you
March 8, 2016 10:22 p.m.
TheFoilAjani says... #33
Ashockfan You know, I've been trying to figure that out for awhile, and I've never figured it out. That and Hidden Dragonslayer seem really good.
March 8, 2016 10:23 p.m.
you definitely just looked at the spreadsheet. Im brewing Abzan Megamorph right now lol
March 8, 2016 10:24 p.m.
Grantley91 says... #35
I wonder if Sigarda is still alive on Innistrad and if we'll be seeing her too.
March 8, 2016 10:28 p.m.
March 8, 2016 10:37 p.m. Edited.
Ok Guys, 1 more deck for the night. Abzan megamorph.
Standard Abzan Megamorph Show
This looks pretty good! I'm not even mad it's in abzan colors. Seriously tho, TheFoilAjani and I want answers. Since when did Silumgar Assassin exist and why has he never been played?
As a sidenote, he's kinda funny since he's a reverse Den Protector AND a reverse Hidden Dragonslayer... All in the same card!
Also, here ya go MurderHood. A deck without 4x Heir of falkenwrath... only because I have 12 other 2 drops and needed more removal tho... I'll probably sideboard a couple anyway :P
March 8, 2016 10:40 p.m.
JohnnyBaggins says... #40
These lands are uncommon fixers for limited. Chill. I'm willing to bet you 3 goblin tokens that they complete the Tango cycle.
March 8, 2016 10:44 p.m.
Alright, I over-exaggerated how irritated I am. However, 3 goblin tokens are cheap. Bet me a Black Lotus then we'll talk. :p
March 8, 2016 10:46 p.m.
Ill bet you one of the 41 Seed Guardians (11 foil) I bought yestarday for 5$
March 8, 2016 10:54 p.m.
How Do you guys like the Abzan Megamorph list?
Also, quick rundown of my decks so far:RB MadnessGrixis Madness (RB Madness + Jace and Sideboard hate)BW Avacyn Combo/Control (REST IN PEACE AVACYN COMBO)JundAbzanAbzan Megamorph
Seems good so far! hopefully i broke at least one of those :D
You can find the spreadsheet with all the lists from the link that TheFoilAjani sent on the middle of page 19 of this thread
March 8, 2016 10:58 p.m.
canterlotguardian says... #47
You must have never heard of this little thing called the Reserved List. :P
March 8, 2016 11:13 p.m.
ShadowNinja0704 says... #48
I don't think Tamiyo will be in SOI. Remember, Jace found her notebook deserted, and I doubt Tamiyo would leave this type of information unattended...
March 9, 2016 12:02 a.m.
Here's a stompy list I've been brewing with lately.
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March 9, 2016 12:56 a.m.
I'd be surprised if they finished the battle land cycle, I think it's way more likely we will see the reprinting of check lands, either enemy, allied, or both.
-Orvos- says... #1
Anyone got any speculation on what the main antagionists card will be and what stats or abilities itll have?
As a side note i half think they wont reveal the main bad guy in this set.
March 8, 2016 4:43 p.m.