Are Extra Turns Coming?
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Posted on Sept. 29, 2014, 1:07 p.m. by InnerFlame
With the printing of Ugin's Nexus , it being a mythic rare, and Sage of Hours being the only card that let's you take extra turns in standard, I can only assume that extra turns are coming in the next set. Since it's a mythic rare I assume wizards wants this card to be important which may mean multiple cards that give extra turns.
Anyone thinking the same or have something to add?
InnerFlame says... #3
EmblemMan: I forgot about Medomai the Ageless . Those are two cards that take extra turns in the same block. And I'm pretty sure it's a given that there will be some extra tturn card in the next set as the flavor text for Ugin's Nexus refers to Sarkhan time traveling. May we all hope it is Time Walk .
September 29, 2014 1:21 p.m.
I don't think that Wizards will break the reserved list this decade, but we might see something like Temporal Manipulation or Time Warp .
September 29, 2014 1:29 p.m.
InnerFlame says... #5
Korombos: yeah i was mainly kidding when I said Time Walk ...while still holding a little hope. I could totally see it being Time Warp and/or Ugin doing it himself.
September 29, 2014 1:32 p.m.
Nigeltastic says... #6
I am not sure that Ugin's Nexus being printed actually means anything is coming. Wizards uses the mythic rare slot for flavorful or unique cards pretty often, and also prints cards not aimed for standard every set (usually < 5). That said, maybe I'm wrong, and in the coming sets extra turns will become a sweet new thing.
September 29, 2014 1:39 p.m.
APPLE01DOJ says... #7
Ugin's Nexus + Shrapnel Blast will give u an extra turn too...
September 29, 2014 1:40 p.m.
Maro has actually said that many of the developers think that Time Warp is too strong for Standard, so we might have to see what kind of extra-turn effects we'll see. If any.
September 29, 2014 1:42 p.m.
InnerFlame says... #9
APPLE01DOJ: holy crap you're right . Well the ensoul deck just got better.
Nigeltastic: that's a good point.
JWiley129: oh its way to powerful for standard. It's too powerful for modern.Everyone will be playing blue. I was joking when I said that.
September 29, 2014 1:50 p.m.
ColdHeartedSith says... #10
You can convoke Ugin's Nexus on as early as turn 2 with 4 Ornithopter and Chief Engineer and take an extra turn and Shrapnel Blast turn 3. So it already is a usable card for the U/R Artifact deck already.
September 29, 2014 1:58 p.m.
JakeHarlow says... #11
Nice combo with Shrapnel Blast . Didn't even think of it!
Shattergang Brothers like this card, I bet!
September 29, 2014 1:59 p.m.
Invisible_Stalker - Whether you are joking or not, and whether I want it to be reprinted or not, R&D spends lots of time playtesting these cards so I trust that they will know what is too strong or not. Remember, blame them for not reprinting Liliana of the Veil for being too strong, not the messenger.
September 29, 2014 2:24 p.m.
CrazyLittleGuy says... #13
This discussion is ridiculous. Ugin's Nexus is near unplayable, and it doesn't imply that there will be any card printed to make it playable. Sometimes you just have bad mythics. Remember Grimoire of the Dead ? How about Helvault ?
Also, the flavor text on Ugin's Nexus does not refer to Sarkhan time travelling. Yes, there will be a time travelling theme in the next set, but the flavor text there refers to Sarkhan regaining his sanity when exposed to the raw power emanating from Ugin's skeleton. That's how he goes from Sarkhan the Mad to Sarkhan, the Dragonspeaker .
September 29, 2014 3:03 p.m.
I think the reason for it existing in a way is as a build-around extra turn card in-and-of itself. It stops other turns so you can't just Legend-Rule it out and get a turn. This way, you actually have to Atog it or something.
That said, it counters Mono-U EDH somethin' awful.
September 29, 2014 3:57 p.m.
Yeah, more on-topic, Ugin's Nexus is like Eye of Ugin and the Helvault . It's more of a flavor inclusion than a gameplay inclusion. WotC likes making cool, unique cards, and this is one of them.
September 29, 2014 4:02 p.m.
All rarities are determined by how often they want a card to show up in the limited environment. So the reason it's a mythic rare is because they don't want it popping up in sealed or draft all the time, nothing more. I realize that there aren't any cards that give extra turns in this set (besides Ugin's Nexus ) but that's just another reason why they wouldn't want it to show up a lot in limited.
It always makes me laugh when people try to read into a cards rarity like it means something other than how often wizards wants it to show up in limited. The only thing a card's rarity means is how often it's printed. Cards they wan't to show up a lot in limited get printed as commons, cards they want to show up often but not in most packs are printed as uncommon, and cards that they want to show up very little because of the high impact they have on limited are printed as rares with anything they want to appear even less than that being printed as a mythic. So the next time you see someone say something like "this card sucks why is it a rare" remember to just point and laugh. A cards perceived power (or lack there of) has nothing to do with it's rarity at all. The limited environment is almost always the determining factor in a cards rarity.
September 29, 2014 4:12 p.m.
TheRedDude says... #17
In tarkir there is a Temur shaman named Chiamul, Who Whispers Twice. Now, i dont know why hes whispering, or why he has to do it twice (hats a joke) but eh wants to "fix the now" Perhaps that means time travel? maybe we will see him, and he will gve us extra turns
September 29, 2014 4:24 p.m.
InnerFlame says... #18
As far as it being a mythic, that makes a lot of sense, abenz419. As far as it being printed in general, I can see the uniqueness of the card and wanting to print it as flavor, but TheRedDude brings up some interesting lore facts.
September 29, 2014 4:31 p.m.
MindAblaze says... #19
Eye of Ugin was a precursor to Eldrazi creatures before we had any Eldrazi...
I am interested to see what happens with Ugin's bones.
September 29, 2014 4:34 p.m.
InnerFlame says... #20
MindAblaze!: The Elderazi are coming back and it's going to get very crazy....that's my honest take on it at least. We go from three colors, to colorless and elderazi, to mono or maybe even dual color in this block.
September 29, 2014 4:38 p.m.
TheRedDude says... #21
for speculation on how the time traveling goes, see My theory
September 29, 2014 5 p.m.
selesvyaloverer8 says... #22
What about something like this?
Ugin's revelation XXXXUUU
Sorcery-Mythic Rare
Take x extra turns afther this one
Ugin's revelation is colorless
get the Ghostfire action and a way to get extra turns while being probably unplayable due to the high cmc per turn
September 30, 2014 8:19 p.m.
lothshteth says... #23
I would love to see that printed, but I don't see WotC making a better Time Stretch .
September 30, 2014 9:54 p.m.
As mentioned earler, its stopping extra turn rule is so you can't just play one and have the legend rule give you another turn. Also: not everything is given its rarity for limited. While it plays a large role in how they decide, elements such as story, being part of a cycle and in the case of mythics 'epicness' also play a majour role.
EmblemMan says... #2
They make anything that takes an extra turn a mythic pretty much so I wouldnt think that would mean much. At the same time I would never expect multiple or effective take an extra turn cards.
September 29, 2014 1:15 p.m.