Chord of Calling in M15?

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Posted on June 8, 2014, midnight by aeonstoremyliver

With the Convoke mechanic spoiled, dear Jesus I only hope that Chord of Calling will see a reprint in M15. The card isn't exactly OP and would give token/ramp decks some fuel and balance in Standard. But, with RTR rotating out soon, it may not be as good without the backing of the Seleysnya or Orzhov Guilds. Who knows, if it does see a reprint and Khans does indeed have a 'Junk' shard, it may very well be relevant given a Standard reprint.

In any case, I'm hoping for a reprint to be able to obtain this card for cheaper than it's current $40.00. What are the thoughts of the Tapped Out community?

kmcree says... #2

Eh... I don't think Wizards would do that. Its possible that it could see a reprint in Khans, but I just think the card is too powerful for a core set. I don't think it would be too powerful for standard, especially with the amount of removal available, I just don't see it appearing in a core set. Of course they reprinted Mutavault in a core set, so who knows...

June 8, 2014 12:10 a.m.

Also Scavenging Ooze and Thoughtsieze. Well the latter is Theros, but I suppose my point is that Modern cards have been seeing reprints as of late.

June 8, 2014 12:55 a.m.

I would love to see this reprinted. that would be pretty amazing. I agree with kmcree's statement, though. a core set reprint is unlikely. another thing to consider is that there will be something like 7 different planeswalkers in the set, so it probably has all the value it needs right there

June 8, 2014 12:58 a.m.

kmcree says... #5

They've definitely been reprinting modern staples, my point was just that I would be surprised to see it in a core set. Scavenging Ooze isn't on the same level, and Thoughtseize was in a block set. Chord of Calling could see a reprint, but my bet is that, if it does, it'll happen in a block set, not a core set.

June 8, 2014 12:59 a.m.

Makes sense. But would R&D put the same mechanic in a core set and a block set? Hence my OP regarding Convoke in M15.

June 8, 2014 1:01 a.m.

kmcree says... #7

It depends on the mechanic, and how prevalent Wizards wants it to be. I mean, technically flying, trample, etc are all mechanics, and they all appear quite frequently in core sets and block sets. If they're trying to push convoke (I personally can't imagine why they would be, but that's beside the point) then it could appear in both.

June 8, 2014 1:06 a.m.

Flying, Trample, Vigilance, etc are more keywords than mechanics, I would argue. Metalcraft, Landfall, Transmute, etc. would be mechanics.

Exalted, Bloodthirst, and Convoke have all been mechanics in past sets. Mainly block sets, actually. I don't recall a mechanic that has appeared in both a core and block set simultaneously. I suppose it is possible (I mean Wizards did print Jace the mindsculptor, so they can do what they please), but highly unlikely IMHO. Then again, I shall be the first to admit I was wrong and make it publicly known.

June 8, 2014 1:16 a.m.

kmcree says... #9

Yeah. Its kind of splitting hairs. I mean keywords, I would say, are generally terms that are used to shorten mechanics. Convoke, for example, is the keyword used in place of the mechanic "Each creature you tap while playing this spell reduces its cost by (1) or by one mana of that creature's color."

June 8, 2014 1:21 a.m.

kmcree says... #10

I get what you're saying though.

June 8, 2014 1:23 a.m.

Hjaltrohir says... #11

There is usually one really good reprint in a core set (M14-Mutavault ) so with the convoke mechanic returning in M15 that would be my guess at the money reprint.

June 8, 2014 2:35 a.m.

jonhydude says... #12

I haven't read all these comments, but wizards likes to keep mechanics in core sets to two colours. Bloodthirst was in R/B, Exalted was in W/B and scry was in B/U. We have already seen convoke in Black and white, so it is 99% going to be a black and white mechanic in m15.

June 8, 2014 4:15 a.m.

TexasDice says... #13

I hope Liliana of the Veil gets a reprint. I know the card isn't that old, but there are good reasons for a reprint:

  • 60 bucks pricetag
  • Liliana of the Veil wasn't that good in Innistrad Standard. No comparison to Modern/Legacy
  • What else should they reprint? Liliana Vess is a bit outdated, (despite being the best Lorwyn walker,) Sorin Markov is hated in casual and lastly, Liliana of the Dark Realms is complete garbage and insulted black players for two years in a row now.

On Topic:

For similar reasons as of point 2 do I support Chord of Calling s reprint. Probably with Garruk in the art and a big wurm, so they can go nuts.

Cord is a card, that appeals to construced and casual players alike and would fit into the Convoke theme. So: Why shouldn't they reprint it?

June 8, 2014 6:33 a.m.

ChiefBell says... #14

They will not be reprinting Liliana of the Veil again soon. Maybe ever. They dislike doing low cost planeswalkers because they do tend to get out of control. Mono-black is very popular in the meta and she would make it utterly busted. She was only printed recently. Also, she is just busted, which makes it unlikely that Wizards will take kindly to a reprint.

Actually Liliana of the Dark Realms is probably usable at the moment due to MBD. Although you're right she's still a bit trashy.

I think chord of calling is an extremely powerful card, however it's not utterly game breaking. I CAN see that being printed. Depending on the nature of the set it could be a late game play, which makes it no better than something like 6 mana Garruk. Howveer if it's tokened theme I feel they may shy away from it.

June 8, 2014 7:53 a.m.

kmcree I may be very good at splitting hairs lol. And you raise a great point as well. Semantics indeed sir.

@TexasDice Liliana of the Veil won't get a reprint in Standard for the same reason Snapcaster Mage , Tarmogoyf , and True-Name Nemesis won't. They're simply really good, really broken cards on their own. And Lilly in fact did impact INN Standard by making Rites Reanimator very much a thing.

I'm with you that Liliana has been given crappy reprints as of late. I'd also like to see a better Lily. Your artwork idea is appealing!

jonhydude Convoke was a Seleysnya Conclave mechanic from the original Ravnica block...

June 8, 2014 7:57 a.m.

jonhydude says... #16

@aeonstoremyliver Wizards likes to change mechanic colours in core sets. Check out m12, where bloodthirst is a rakdos mechanic instead of a gruul mechanic.

June 8, 2014 8:03 a.m.

cschiller says... #17

Wait...what did I just read?

"The card isn't exactly OP"

My friend, let me introduce you to a little modern deck that's been doing pretty well lately. Have you heard of Melira Pod?

June 8, 2014 8:50 a.m.

Well yeah it's not OP. It's certainly not Green Sun's Zenith . The bonus is that it's an Instant, can fetch any creature, and has Convoke, but Pod typically doesn't have a lot of creatures on the board. It serves the same functionality as Pod, which typically runs a low curve.

June 8, 2014 9:08 a.m.

TexasDice says... #19

Oh, you guys are right. For a moment, I forgot about the current meta and yeah, you guys are right, the last thing MBD should get is a(nother) control tool that also provides two black mana symbols.

But I also have to disagree a bit. Lili isn't thaaaat broken.
She can't deal with agressive curves that effective and her +1 affects you too. You have to engineer your deck a bit around her, which granted, breaks her in the end. So she's a little broken. But there are card around her needed.

Lili never was that useful in Innistrad-Scars or Innistrad-Ravnica. Junk Reanimator was so easily dealt with, because of all the graveyard hate and Flashback, alongside undying, made her edict ability pretty awkward.

Back to Chord of Calling

Honestly, what decks could that card break? We don't really have a big enough toolbox or combo to abuse that card in standard. Nykthos decks running green would be happy for sure, but it can't be that devastating.

June 8, 2014 9:09 a.m.

gufymike says... #20

Lili of the dark realms is a mistake

Planeswalkeer are designed more carefully to flavor

I do believe LotV can see a reprint and would fit the design philosophy's. A coreset reprint wouldn't be out of the question.

I'm on the Chord of Calling reprint bandwagon also.

June 8, 2014 9:28 a.m.

ChiefBell says... #21

A chord reprint would be ok because it wouldn't add any more tools to modern. What would be stupid would be if, for example, they printed another card that did the same thing as chord but had a different name. Printing the same card again isn't a big deal - but adding more versions of effectively the same card is.

June 8, 2014 9:41 a.m.

MindAblaze says... #22

It makes too much sense to reprint Chord now. The thing that gets me about it is, up until now, returning Core Set mechanics have been limited to two colors. That being said, there's no reason it has to stay that way. They could put Convoke in all colors if they want to.

I feel like its reprint Chord now or never. A supplemental product maybe...it all depends on what Khans is giving us.

June 8, 2014 12:29 p.m.

So if I called this right, do I get Snickerdoodles and Pfeifernoose? Lol.

Mike, if they do reprint LoTV it would be amazing. I'd be overjoyed. MBD would have another badass tool at their disposal, as pointed out. I wonder what Khans will bring.

I've also heard it speculated that Garruk may be the black walker of this core set.

June 8, 2014 1:43 p.m.

darthfrog says... #24

Well, you guys got your wish. The new art for it is quite awesome.

June 30, 2014 8:21 a.m.

treevore says... #25

chord has been released for m15. and the new art is ASTOUNDING!!!

June 30, 2014 2:23 p.m.

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