Commander 2016 Spoilers!
Spoilers, Rumors, and Speculation forum
Posted on Oct. 24, 2016, 10:53 a.m. by Phaetion
Silas Ren? SIDAR KONDO?! A legendary angel from New Phyrexia that SCREAMS superfriends? Partner mechanic? Sign me up!
A few other things:
Ludevic CONFIRMED at U/R!
2 enemy-colored legendary cycles w/partner and 1 ally-colored legendary cycle w/partner. Total? 105 DIFFERENT pairings! To the Deck Cave!
October 24, 2016 11:01 a.m.
Undaunted seems perfect to reprint reserve list cards.
Familial memories 1U
Instant
Undaunted
Target player draws three cards.
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Obsidian lotus 1
Artifact
Undaunted
T: sac [CN] add three mana of any one color to your mana pool.
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Moxes etc.
October 24, 2016 11:06 a.m.
Sim_Will_CMcantfindmehopefully says... #7
Jesus I don't like partner. Seems scary
Angel horror phyrexian is kickass
October 24, 2016 11:11 a.m.
Couple more showing some of the color fixing mechanics. Basic Landcycling is back!
October 24, 2016 11:18 a.m.
GoldGhost012 says... #10
Looks like cool stuff so far! Partner is an interesting way of making 4-color decks.
October 24, 2016 11:19 a.m.
If I'm not mistaken, Partner allows you to build 2, 3 and 4 color decks. If you get all 5 decks, you may as well build the Chromatic. My favorite mechanic of the product line by far.
October 24, 2016 11:24 a.m.
I really like Partner -- Even if you partner up a 3 colour deck, you still have some great options there.
That said, aside from Silas Renn, none of them really scream great to me -- Kraum is yet another U/R draw creature, though a 4/4/ flyer is nice. Bruse is yet another Boros combat creature, but will probably be good in those rare Boros/now-more-common 5-colour Ally decks. Sidar Kondo -- Flanking? REALLY? Probably going to be a nice commander for tokens/weenies and, joking about it aside, Flanking helps in that regard.
Atraxa though? HOO BOY. I love it. Superfriends or just counter shenanigans, this is great. Going to be a challenge to get a good manabase together (fetchlands become an absolute must...) but in a good way.
Should be interesting to see the rest of the partner commanders come out though.
October 24, 2016 11:40 a.m.
Hjaltrohir says... #14
Oh my fuck that superfriends angel is the best commander they could have printed in those colors. I was thinking about 4c superfriends but now its happening...
October 24, 2016 11:49 a.m.
LittleBlueHero says... #15
Atraxa gives me a lot of hope for the rest of this cycle. Hopefully they didn't put their best out first and the others are at least on par with her.
October 24, 2016 11:50 a.m.
GET HYPE
ALARA, PHYREXIA, INNISTRAD HYPE
DOMAIN HYPE
In all seriousness, I'm instantly sold. I love big, splashy multicolor cards and I love playing almost entirely basics with mana fixing, so I'm currently infatuated with the domain mana rock and the phyrexian angel. And that flavor text on the Ludevic card is hysterically funny.
October 24, 2016 12:02 p.m.
nooo we will see new lands that would be too good for modern ;)
October 24, 2016 12:16 p.m.
Sim_Will_CMcantfindmehopefully says... #20
smackjack Not a modern legal set
October 24, 2016 12:21 p.m.
...
They brought back FLANKING? WHAAAAAT? That's... That's...
And not a hybrid mana cost in sight. Is Wizards really that allergic to them, or something?
October 24, 2016 12:28 p.m.
We got a Simic Legend and Zedruu
Our latest Prophet of Kruphix looks to be quite good.
October 24, 2016 12:38 p.m.
OH MY GOD THE SIMIC COMMANDER IS AMAZING!
Kydele, Chosen of Kruphix2GU
: Add to your mana pool for each card you've drawn this turn.
Partner.
2/3
October 24, 2016 12:38 p.m.
There's also this prophet of kruphix that's a natural combo with draw spells.
October 24, 2016 12:39 p.m.
RedUndead40 says... #27
So they said 4 legends per deck.
Im guessing two partners and two four colors. So might still see another WUBG legend.
October 24, 2016 12:44 p.m.
LittleBlueHero says... #28
There was confirmation that each deck will contain 1 four color commander 1 allied color with partner and 2 enemy colored with partner wasn't there?
October 24, 2016 12:46 p.m.
I don't see how it's broken. Can someone explain to me? I mean, yeah, wheel effects, but those are undoubtedly the best combo with the card and are usually in red, so you have to play a red partner. If you're just drawing cards with specifically draw spells, than it doesn't do much more than negate half of the cost. Good, yes, but better than Meren?
October 24, 2016 12:46 p.m.
Man, Partner is going to add so many possibilities to deck building. You can make a Kraum/Silas Renn deck or a Kraum/Bruse Tarl deck or a Kraum/Sidar Kondo deck, and every combination offers completely different options!
October 24, 2016 12:50 p.m.
By the way, could we get some set information at the top of the thread? I'd appreciate not having to look it up whenever I forget.
October 24, 2016 12:52 p.m.
DarkLaw: Done.
And we have the art of a new card. William Wallace, is that you (albeit female)?
October 24, 2016 1:05 p.m. Edited.
Wow this is going into my Leovold deck. Play wheel then tap for 8? Yes please :)
October 24, 2016 1:23 p.m.
DemonDragonJ says... #35
The partner mechanic is very interesting, as it allows for all manner of fascinating combinations and deck builds.
I am so glad that Ludevic will finally be printed on a card! I was expecting him to be black/blue, but red/blue also works very well, especially since Gisa and Geralf are already black and blue.
Wow! Atraxa is amazing! It may be too early to say this, but she is definitely my favorite card revealed, thus far! Her artwork is awesome, her name is awesome, and her abilities are insane! Even without proliferate, she would be an excellent creature, but having that makes her unbelievably awesome. Even if I never use her in a deck, I shall definitely get a copy of her to keep in my collection, because angels are my favorite creatures in this game, and she is an amazing angel.
October 24, 2016 1:36 p.m.
Sweet, now I can do a Grixis tiny leaders deck without Tetsuo Umezawa, by using the new Dimir and Rakdos legendary creatures.
October 24, 2016 1:38 p.m.
Problem with Kydele is that that 8 mana is colorless. That means you can't just use it for raw value without building around it.
Also, bad Kaervek the Merciless is bad Kaervek the Merciless, but appreciated nonetheless.
October 24, 2016 1:39 p.m.
Crap, I just realised that they're making a partner card for every "guild". That's kind of cool.
October 24, 2016 1:43 p.m.
Liking the Vial Smasher! Anything to go in my Rakdos Deck makes me happy. Also, kinda sorta confirmed already with Prismatic Geoscope, but in the Designing Commander article, they've confirmed that they're reprinting a rare dual land cycle in the set. My money's on Shocks, but I'll take a legendary dual that people have been wanting!
October 24, 2016 1:50 p.m.
warrior-within says... #41
It looks like Vial Smasher is from Tarkir. Any other Tarkir Legendary perhaps?
October 24, 2016 2:05 p.m.
RedUndead40 says... #42
LittleBlueHero where did you see that?
To me it doesn't make sense to have 3 partners per deck... 5 decks with 2 each covers all 10 guilds. My guess is the fourth legend is still going to be four color. Either in the vein of Atraxa or maybe in the form of a two color with two colors in text box as some have been speculating.
October 24, 2016 2:10 p.m.
Vial Smasher is the alternate timeline version of Ankle Shanker. Had some interactions with Sarkhan when he came back to the altered present, I believe.
October 24, 2016 2:10 p.m.
October 24, 2016 2:18 p.m.
@ RedUndead40: It was confirmed in one of the articles on Wizard's home page, I believe. It's like two enemy-colored pairs and one allied-colored one that ties in lore-wise to one of the other enemy ones. So basically this:
1 4-color Commander @ mythic1 2-color enemy @ mythic1 2-color enemy @ rare1 2-color ally @ rare (I believe) that ties to the mythic enemy-colored partner through lore.
October 24, 2016 2:19 p.m.
LittleBlueHero says... #46
Quote from mothership article today:
"To recap, there are five decks for Commander (2016 Edition). Each deck will focus on four colors. Each deck will contain fifteen new cards (although note that some new cards may appear in more than one of the decks). Among these fifteen new cards, each deck will have:
A four-color legendary creature (new characters but from known worlds) printed at mythic rare
An allied two-color legendary creature with partner (characters from Magic's past that haven't yet been printed as cards) printed at mythic rare
Two enemy two-color legendary creatures with partner (characters from Magic's past that haven't yet been printed as cards that are creatively linked to one another), one printed at mythic rare and the other at rare
Various other cards tied to the mechanical theme of the deck"
October 24, 2016 2:23 p.m.
RedUndead40 says... #47
Eeww. Not sure I like that. Seems like too many partners and the partners seem underpowered due to the partner mechanic. I would much rather have two 4 color legends to choose from.
Seems like Wizards chose quantity over quality
October 24, 2016 2:23 p.m.
LittleBlueHero says... #48
Phaetion which art are you referring to?
I can't seem to find any new art :(
October 24, 2016 2:26 p.m.
LittleBlueHero: Here. It's so hard to miss.
Heads up: If you scroll down, you get names of the cover cards: Two from Alara (Esper and Maelstrom), a duo from Theros, and 2 that I don't know.
October 24, 2016 2:32 p.m. Edited.
@ Phaetion:
Ooh, that also gives us the names of the 4-color legendaries!
Yidris, Maelstrom Wielder
Saskia the Unyielding
Kynaios and Tiro of Meletis
Atraxa
Breya, Aetherium Shaper
PhotogenicParasympathetic says... #2
Holy shit, that superfriends angel.
One of my friends has an Oloro Superfriends that is almost certainly going to get to add green now.
October 24, 2016 10:55 a.m.