Commander 2016 Spoilers!
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Posted on Oct. 24, 2016, 10:53 a.m. by Phaetion
Silas Ren? SIDAR KONDO?! A legendary angel from New Phyrexia that SCREAMS superfriends? Partner mechanic? Sign me up!
That and we have part of the art for Breya. Just look a little further down.
Yidris sounds awesome. I'll be looking for it.
October 24, 2016 2:37 p.m.
"Maelstrom Wielder"
...Cascade?
Also, another pair of Theros legends in one card? Nice!
Saskia is blatantly the Braveheart Homage. God knows now it'll be Breya...
October 24, 2016 2:41 p.m.
LittleBlueHero says... #5
Those descriptions are really cool.
If you scroll all the way to the bottom there is an etherium woman as well which is probably Breya.
October 24, 2016 2:46 p.m.
Super salty that we're not getting four legends in each 4-color combo
Me n Yidris will just have to become bros. I preordered the UBRG deck last week lol
October 24, 2016 3:32 p.m.
That is very difficult to do. They stated this enough times. Let us all be grateful that we have at least one.
October 24, 2016 3:35 p.m.
Yidris seems like my kind of guy. Perfect in every way. The esper person probably comes close, and phyrexian angel comes a little closer. Damn, though, Alara's my favorite plane. It's a dream come true.
October 24, 2016 4 p.m.
Did they reveal the new Ludevic card or just say there was one? My Google is NOT cooperating. Lol
October 24, 2016 4:06 p.m.
Ludevic is confirmed as the Izzet mythic but he hasn't been revealed yet.
October 24, 2016 4:07 p.m.
PhotogenicParasympathetic says... #12
Definitely gonna get either Atraxa or Breya or both. Just waiting on Breya's reveal...
October 24, 2016 4:13 p.m.
October 24, 2016 4:17 p.m.
I think I got Breya:
When ~ ETB's create a 1/1 blue Thopter.
Tap, sac an artifact: Choose one:
- ~ deals (?) damage to target player
-You gain (?) life)
-target creature gets-?/-? until EOT?
October 24, 2016 4:20 p.m.
Wait -- Kynaios and Tiro of Meletis are Guardians of Meletis? DEEPEST LORE.
October 24, 2016 4:21 p.m.
Yidris CASCADES!!!!
Whenever ~ deals combat damage, ??????????? cascade.
Either the next spell you cast gets it or spells in your hand get it for the turn.
SHOTGUN.
October 24, 2016 4:25 p.m.
Going to be next spell, I bet -- spell you cast for the rest of the turn is WAY too broken, even compared to proliferate and Breya's modular sac-effects.
October 24, 2016 4:34 p.m.
PhotogenicParasympathetic says... #18
Saskia isVigilance, Haste?Reach?
As ~ enters the battlefield, choose a player.
Whenever a creature you control deals combat damage to a player, it deals that much damage to the chosen player.
I think. It's hard to make out for sure.
October 24, 2016 4:36 p.m.
That was what MTGS deciphered from Saskia. Someone else decoded Breya and is far better than my attempt. I'm trying to decode Yidris, but I keep seeing "spells you cast this turn" rather than "the next spell you cast this turn" for whatever reason.
I see "from your hand" and a "th-" word, implying plural. I hope I'm right and wrong (Yeah, odd, I know).
October 24, 2016 4:42 p.m. Edited.
So how is the Partner mechanic going to work when making a commander deck on untap?
October 24, 2016 4:48 p.m.
Blind_Guardian says... #21
All the lore FeelsGoodMan. Hopefully I can bring myself up to buy one so I can start play commander again.
October 24, 2016 4:54 p.m.
Atraxa is the colors I was most excited for, and she is impressive!
Now, I just need to figure out if it's worth it to cut red out of my superfriends deck... Nicol Bolas is so good...
Also, I feel like Kydele and Kraum are a strong duo.
October 24, 2016 5:42 p.m.
Hi_diddly_ho_neighbor says... #24
Hmmmm it seems that all of the two color commanders are just missing that little bit extra to make them powerful, which is probably smart if they are mean't to be partnered. I gotta say, besides the fact that each of these legendaries are just oozing with MTG lore goodies, I am sorta underwhelmed with commanders as cards themselves. Atraxa is cool and good, but Saskia seems pretty bad. Sidar seems interesting in an off the wall token horde strategy or as a support card to Doran, the Siege Tower, but the rest don't really inspire me to build anything new.
October 24, 2016 6:03 p.m.
Hi_diddly_ho_neighbor says... #25
I do really like the idea of mixing and matching the partnered commanders though, lots of possibilities.
October 24, 2016 6:04 p.m.
It just dawned on me: Based on what we already know about all of the legendary creatures so far, they all seem generic enough to not be relied upon so heavily. This was a problem with the past precons (C15 was arguably the worst for this).
C16 just might be the best set of 5 ever but I'd save that judgment for the end. That said, the prospects are very favorable.
October 24, 2016 6:17 p.m.
Tyrant-Thanatos says... #27
I'm super excited for Atraxa. Everything I've ever wanted out of a commander tbh. I see a lot of people raving about running her in superfriends, but quite frankly I'm excited just to build around her. I want to just spray counters all over the board and abuse that proliferate trigger as much as I possibly can. On top of that she's a mean threat and decent ward with all those keywords. She can swing overhead, snag some extra life, kill anything that blocks, and then turn around and block as well? netting even more life/kills and being able to block fliers? That's some serious value. If you can manage even one +1/+1 counter on her she'll just keep building up.
Saskia doesn't seem bad to me, doubling the damage output of all of your unblocked attackers seems decent imo, and assuming I'm reading it right, a 3/4 vigilance haste for 4? that's not a bad body. It does seem exceptionally uninspired though, I will say that. I'm not nearly as interested or excited to build around Saskia as I am Atraxa. Breya looks interesting as well, but Atraxa definitely has me excited.
October 24, 2016 6:26 p.m.
RedUndead40 says... #28
So from what we know of the Partner pairings, it is 1 Ally colored Mythic and two Enemy pairs that share the same pair. With this we can already deduce which Partners will be paired with whom, and which Flagship commander they will belong to (at least with what we have spoiled)
Bruse Tarl - WR (Enemy) - only potential ally pair is UB so he will be partnered with Silas Renn and they will both be in the Breya deck (WUBR).
Kraum and Ludevic are UR (enemy) which pairs them with the only available ally pair in Sidar Kondo (GW), and puts them into the Meletis duo deck (WURG)
Kydele (UG) pairs with Vial Smasher (BR) and fits into the Yidris deck (UBRG).
October 24, 2016 6:39 p.m.
Tyrant-Thanatos says... #29
That was the theory I had thought of, RedUndead40, but Bruse being in the artifact deck doesn't seem... right? for lack of a better term.
October 24, 2016 6:42 p.m.
RedUndead40 says... #30
Tyrant-Thanatos well the synergy I see is him paired with Silas Renn gives you double triggers on Silas, and gives Silas first strike deathtouch essentially. So there's that. But that's literally the only ally color he could be paired with, so I guarantee he's in the Breya deck.
Kraum and Sidar is a weird synergy... hopefully Ludevic will be better with Sidar.
Kydele and Vial Smasher is another one that's a bit weird. Could work out but they don't share too much in common. I guess you could just instant speed draw everyone to death?
October 24, 2016 6:46 p.m. Edited.
The planes in this set are
Domeria
Tarkir
New Phyrexia
Innistrad
Theros
Look at the art and names of the dual coloured commanders...determine their plane and you will know which deck they are in.
October 24, 2016 6:48 p.m.
Firebones675 says... #32
Personally when I look at the angel I don't think super friends. I think Infect.
October 24, 2016 7:02 p.m.
Sim_Will_CMcantfindmehopefully says... #34
I love proliferate, this commander gives me a reason to use it more! I don't like the idea of four colour but the phyrexian angel makes sense. On New Phyrexia, with the five factions, the red one was actually (in red spirit) Anti-War, didn't really have a side, and was harboring Mirrans. So with the Phyrexians expanding from their mono-black past, red rebelled against the mission, even with all the in fighting, they still agreed on basic terms that Urabrask and his kind just didn't listen to.
October 24, 2016 7:05 p.m.
Is Domeria or Alara the main plane for the orange pack?
October 24, 2016 7:20 p.m.
So, I feel like this is as good a place to post this as anywhere, so here goes. I'm aware that Wizards has "named" the new sects of commanders, or Arcs as I like to call them, as certain nouns: Artifice, Chaos, Aggression, Altruism, and Growth being the five. I don't know about you, but these seem fairly boring to me. These Arcs need real names. So I did some math and came up with five potential names for the 5 four-color combinations. They're a bit cheesy, but I think they could stick:
So, yae or nae? Think they could stick? Or did I come spend my English class period coming up with useless guff?
October 24, 2016 7:23 p.m.
Sim_Will_CMcantfindmehopefully says... #38
I feel they are linguistically confused and hard to grasp for many.
October 24, 2016 7:55 p.m.
RedUndead40 says... #39
Tbh I dont understand why people dont just call it "non-blue" etc
October 24, 2016 8:13 p.m.
PhotogenicParasympathetic says... #40
So Tyrant-Thanatos: Why couldn't Bruse be with Kydele in the not-black deck? That would put both Theros commanders together, under the Theros 4-color commander.
October 24, 2016 8:17 p.m.
Tyrant-Thanatos says... #41
Because, PhotogenicParasympathetic, if the Breya deck has Silas Renn, Seeker Adept, which it pretty much has to, then it needs a W/R to partner in order to run a partner pair of commanders.
October 24, 2016 8:25 p.m. Edited.
Sim_Will_CMcantfindmehopefully says... #42
Can I just say that I am retarded.
I saw the new bull with the word "Impetos" and translated it to Momentum and thought it was a new mechanic. What I did not realize was that it meant haste.
PS T/O won't show the proper accebted character.
October 24, 2016 8:43 p.m.
I like "GRUB" and "GWUB". Easy to pronounce/remember. Also, BRUW ("brew"), WRUG ("rug"), and BWRG ("berg").
October 24, 2016 9:22 p.m.
beakedbard says... #48
Wait did we just get a 4 colour proliferate commander? I don't even know where to start brewing there's so much potential with it.
October 25, 2016 6:49 a.m.
Grantley91 says... #49
I'm so glad they finally reprinted Oath. I don't even care which deck it's in, I'll buy it...
October 25, 2016 7:08 a.m.
I'm all for a $20 reprint, but I'm confused as to why it is included when this isn't vintage.
Sloanan says... #1
Ah, ninja'd by you yourself!
October 24, 2016 2:36 p.m.