Commander 2016 Spoilers!

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Posted on Oct. 24, 2016, 10:53 a.m. by Phaetion

Our First Round! FINALLY!

Silas Ren? SIDAR KONDO?! A legendary angel from New Phyrexia that SCREAMS superfriends? Partner mechanic? Sign me up!

Deck Info

Named_Tawyny says... #1

I've never understood why they print rarities with Commander products (esp the distinction between rare and mythic). Everything is the exact same rarity - one per pack!

October 25, 2016 7:53 a.m.

DarkLaw says... #2

Named_Tawyny Well, I would assume that it's so that people don't get ideas. Seal of the Guildpact isn't a common. If it were ever reprinted in an actual set, that would indicate it's rarity. And besides, rares and above are only in one deck.

October 25, 2016 8:16 a.m.

Phaetion says... #3

Well, here's a early morning (depending on where you are) treat:

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October 25, 2016 8:39 a.m.

GotCubes says... #4

This has definite potential. I'd love this in the 99 of Skullbriar, the Walking Grave.

October 25, 2016 8:41 a.m.

Snake_Oil says... #5

I love it -- I was hoping for a G/B token commander but EW LORD SKULLBRIAR YES.

Just gimme Doubling Season and Corpsejack Menace.

October 25, 2016 8:45 a.m.

Phaetion says... #6

Oh, and I should also mention this flavorful tidbit (as if the card wasn't flavorful enough):

You can't run Reyhan with Daghatar the Adamant at the helm unless you choose to use all 3 colors. Very flavorful, considering the Dragons timeline.

October 25, 2016 8:45 a.m.

CuteSnail says... #7

Has anyone mentioned that this commanders will all be foil?

October 25, 2016 8:48 a.m.

Phaetion says... #8

It says 100 cards, then 4 foils. I don't like foils but I'm willing to bend the rule if only the legendaries were foil, which is the case.

October 25, 2016 8:50 a.m.

griz024 says... #9

Really diggin the basicland cycling cards. Fixing ftw!

October 25, 2016 10:10 a.m.

I prefer running more basics, so I like it whenever a 3+ colour deck can be run whit largely basics. I like Blood Moon because it stops say, Dark Depths but don't care for it's complete shutting down of multi colour decks, like a reverse Iona, Shield of Emeria.

October 25, 2016 10:12 a.m.

I think what I need in my life is a four or even five color commander that likes legends. Like Captain Sisay but for more colors.

The ability doesn't have to be the same but just something that cares about legends.

It would be even better if it had partner so you could have two legends readily at your disposal!

October 25, 2016 10:30 a.m.

CuteSnail says... #12

My lgs have been arguing whether the inclusion of "4 Foil Legendary Commander cards" in addition to "A 100-card Commander deck" and "One oversized Foil Commander card for each deck" implies that each deck has 2 regular sized copies of the legendarys. 1 foil copy, and 1 regular. Thoughts?

October 25, 2016 10:35 a.m.

RedUndead40 says... #13

I dont think thats how it works. You get a 96 card deck with 4 foil legends and 1 oversized foil.

October 25, 2016 10:40 a.m.

Holy Crap I love the gruul Partner!!

And Saskia

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October 25, 2016 10:42 a.m.

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October 25, 2016 10:43 a.m.

Snake_Oil says... #16

OH BABY -- Gruul Token Commander Ho!

October 25, 2016 10:44 a.m.

Snake_Oil says... #17

Tana is GREAT -- I've wanted a straight up Gruul token maker that wasn't Ulasht. I was hoping for a Satyr, but saproling tokens are a classic.

Tymna is interesting -- potentially draw 3 cards a turn if you spread your damage. Plus, works well with weenies and Behind the Scenes.

Saskia -- Eh. White gives you some access to flicker, but I'm not enthusiastic about her.

Breya -- Yes. YES! Love it. Run all the charms, all the options!!

October 25, 2016 10:47 a.m.

Snake_Oil says... #18

Oh, and it's not like Orzhov colours give you access to Shadow or anything...

October 25, 2016 10:48 a.m.

Skulloelegy Was Breya spoiled?

October 25, 2016 10:59 a.m.

CChaos says... #20

Look at mythicspoilers for all the recently spoiled cards.

October 25, 2016 11:01 a.m.

Snake_Oil says... #21

October 25, 2016 11:03 a.m.

DarkLaw says... #22

If I had to summarise all of the cards spoiled so far today, I'd have to say: "Not impressed".

October 25, 2016 11:04 a.m.

Phaetion says... #23

So Breya was better than I originally thought.

Basalt Monolith/Rings of Brighthearth and some way to make infinite artifacts = murder the table, Oppa Esper Style.

Oh, and Rebecca Guay basics. What's not to love?

October 25, 2016 11:19 a.m. Edited.

Pic for the Lazy

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October 25, 2016 11:19 a.m.

Phaetion says... #25

I'm feeling a bit defeated. If you zoomed in on the bottom of all the legendaries, the circle that's supposed to be there is a star. The legends will be all foil, no non-foils. Time for me to bend my rules, I guess.

Didn't see anyone posting this...

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October 25, 2016 11:22 a.m. Edited.

So when Saskia enters the battlefield with Panharmonicon in play do I get to chose two players?

Im always confused by the "As" enters the battlefield as opposed to "When"

October 25, 2016 11:30 a.m.

Wait a minute...is Breya the Master Transmuter?

October 25, 2016 11:31 a.m.

pskinn01 says... #28

Breya, great whale and dead eye

October 25, 2016 11:32 a.m.

Phaetion says... #29

pskinn01: Breya has now officially been broken. Have an internet.

October 25, 2016 11:34 a.m.

EpicFreddi says... #30

I'm in love with saskia. <3

October 25, 2016 11:36 a.m.

Jreluctance says... #31

LittleBlueHero

Yes, yes it does. I can see four player games ending abruptly that way.

October 25, 2016 11:37 a.m.

Phaetion says... #32

T4 Kill with Saskia (1v1):

T1: Land

T2: Land, Sakura-Tribe Elder, sac Elder.

T3: Land, Blood Mist.

T4: Land, Saskia (choose your opponent), attack (target Saskia with Blood Mist), Berserk.

Saskia will deal 6 under normal circumstances, but with Berserk, she gets +3/+0 and trample. So she would deal 12. With double strike from Blood Mist, though, that becomes 24, resulting in...FATALITY.

October 25, 2016 11:41 a.m. Edited.

pskinn01 says... #33

Phaetion: well it's not like blue and black have ways to dig or tutor for combo pieces.....

Saskia's triggered ability is not combat damage, so not commander damage

October 25, 2016 11:41 a.m. Edited.

Jreluctance says... #34

I'm wrong, Panharmonicon doesn't work with Saskia.

October 25, 2016 11:42 a.m.

Zaueski says... #35

Subbing for updates on the cards.

October 25, 2016 11:54 a.m.

DarkLaw says... #36

Is it a custom for people to list infinite combos with recently spoiled cards which are way easier/better to do with other cards?

Hi_diddly_ho_neighbor Short answer: probably not. Long answer: she's probably based off of Master Transputer in a similar way that Nahiri was based off of Stoneforge Mystic.

October 25, 2016 11:55 a.m.

DarkLaw says... #37

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Crystalline Crawler

Artifact Creature - Construct

Converge - Crystalline Crawler enters the battlefield with a +1/+1 counter on it for each color of mana spent to cast it.

Remove a +1/+1 counter from Crystalline Crawler: Add one mana of any color to your mana pool.

T: Put a +1/+1 counter on Crystalline Crawler.

October 25, 2016 11:57 a.m.

RedUndead40 says... #38

Damn I am very disappoint in Breya. Was hoping for more artifact synergy, less combo focus.

Sac TWO artifacts? For some minimal effects in commander? Lame.

October 25, 2016 12:25 p.m.

Snake_Oil says... #39

Well.

Hanna, Ship's Navigator is getting a reprint with the Terese Neilsen's art.

Glad I didn't drop any money for the judge foil edition...

October 25, 2016 12:31 p.m.

DarkLaw says... #40

Damn. I'd like for some Maelstrom goodies to be spoiled soon. The anticipation is killing me.

October 25, 2016 12:40 p.m.

greyninja says... #41

@DarkLaw, yes this

October 25, 2016 12:45 p.m.

RazortoothMtg says... #42

Cruel Entertainment has to be my favorite card ever printed in the entirety of magic. Even the art is great. Just so fun...

October 25, 2016 12:51 p.m.

Have to agree Cruel entertainment is just sheer ... entertaining to play.

I also love Selfless Squire... fits nicely into counters decks and gives you more reason to run cards I might not otherwise. Which to me is what commander is all about.

October 25, 2016 12:58 p.m.

CChaos says... #44

Selfless Squire is a powerful card. Id consider it a staple.

October 25, 2016 1:13 p.m.

Snake_Oil says... #45

I love that Selfless Squire says WHENEVER damage is prevented.

Stick it in a deck with fog/damage negation effects and you can slowly make it bigger and bigger.

October 25, 2016 1:21 p.m.

Phaetion says... #46

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Chromatic Lantern and Beacon of Unrest are being reprinted too.

October 25, 2016 1:21 p.m.

I needed a Chromatic Lantern but didn't pull the trigger because I was 80% sure it would get reprinted here.

October 25, 2016 1:38 p.m.

ShishkyBob says... #48

I am super excited for Breya, but then again, I'm more of a casual player. I'm mostly excited about finally making a thopter tribal edh deck.

October 25, 2016 1:39 p.m.

DarkLaw says... #49

Okay, so this needs to happen.

Hive Mind, Eye of the Storm, Grip of Chaos, Radiate, Arcbond, Psychic Battle. This is the kind of stuff that needs to go in a deck with Cruel Entertainment (yes, I am aware that some of them don't synergise specifically with it, but with other cards for said deck).

SOMEONE MAKE THIS

October 25, 2016 1:49 p.m.

Phaetion says... #50

If all of those get reprinted in the RGBU deck, I will squeal and salivate with joy.

October 25, 2016 1:55 p.m.

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