Commander 2016 Spoilers!
Spoilers, Rumors, and Speculation forum
Posted on Oct. 24, 2016, 10:53 a.m. by Phaetion
Silas Ren? SIDAR KONDO?! A legendary angel from New Phyrexia that SCREAMS superfriends? Partner mechanic? Sign me up!
Sim_Will_CMcantfindmehopefully says... #2
Faerie Artisans is going in my list of all copy cards now, whooo!
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Once they're in the system
October 26, 2016 2:36 p.m.
GoldGhost012 says... #3
The Hellkite is from an MTGO Treasure Box. It's how some C16 and Conspiracy 2 cards will make it into Magic Online.
October 26, 2016 2:41 p.m.
The Hellkite is cool and interesting. Not interested otherwise.
October 26, 2016 2:57 p.m.
How are we going to add partners to EDH decks on here? Is the plan just to add one to the main list?
October 26, 2016 3:33 p.m.
DruneGrey I assume they'll figure something out. Wizards can make tricky mechanics to implement, such as OGW colorless mana, but they usually have some solutions.
October 26, 2016 3:42 p.m.
RazortoothMtg says... #7
For partner generals I'm just putting one in the commander spot and having a picture of the other in the description. Maybe there will be an update to make it work (like have an option in deckbuilder "deck has partner" and it will have an additional "commander" text box)
October 26, 2016 3:43 p.m.
AwezomePozzum says... #8
RazortoothMtg, I can't speak for the tappedout admins, but that seems to me to be reltively easy. Good idea.
October 26, 2016 3:47 p.m.
RazortoothMtg says... #9
Also, we have a lot of Therosians(?)
5 Legend cards are from theros (Kynaios and Tiro as one card)
4 from Tarkir
3 Legends from Alara
2 Innistradians
2 Zendikarians
1 from New Phyrexia
1 from Dominaria
2 Unknown (Saskia and Tana)
Or so i think
October 26, 2016 3:52 p.m.
Firebones675 says... #10
miracleHat Exactly! I think we are horrible people for this but it seems sweet.
October 26, 2016 3:53 p.m.
I don't think Kynaios and Tiro are the Guardians of Meletis. I'm pretty sure the statues in the back of their art are the Guardians, so they can't be. Plus, this tells their story, which sounds very different from the story of the Guardians.
October 26, 2016 4:37 p.m.
MindAblaze says... #12
In the article today that had the backstories it says they were named the Guardians of Meletis
October 26, 2016 4:47 p.m.
MindAblaze Yeah, I think you're right. I just noticed that in their art the statues are under construction, so it does make sense. After all, the flavor text for the Guardians does say their story was lost to time.
October 26, 2016 5:01 p.m.
PhotogenicParasympathetic says... #14
Not gonna lie, I really, really, really want someone to play Faerie Artisans against a Phage the Untouchable deck.
Faerie Artisans
3U for a 2/2
Flying
Whenever a nontoken creature enters the battlefield under an opponent's control, create a token that's a copy of that creature except it's an artifact in addition to its other types. Then exile all other tokens created by Faerie Artisans.
October 26, 2016 5:05 p.m.
LittleBlueHero says... #15
Random thing: Rehan, last of the Abzan is getting attacked by Ojutai Dragons... yet it can partner with Ishai, Ojutai Dragonspeaker.
Flavor fail?
October 26, 2016 5:36 p.m.
Reyhan, Last of the Abzan having Partner is a massive flavor fail.
October 26, 2016 6:46 p.m.
So we're getting pain lands, check lands, and filter lands...nice
October 26, 2016 7:37 p.m.
Wouldn't it be cool if the Murmuring Bosk reprint was part of a new cycle of lands?
October 26, 2016 8:16 p.m.
pskinn01: do you know if we're getting all of each cycle, or is it just a smattering of a few?
October 26, 2016 8:34 p.m.
Since the one article mentioned figuring out which rare land cycles to use for fixing, I imagine we will get most if not all. But not sure.
October 26, 2016 8:44 p.m. Edited.
Sim_Will_CMcantfindmehopefully says... #21
The Treefolk land being reprinted really is strange, I guess the Guardians of Meletis deck (All but black/altruism) is about group hug and big butts, like Phelddagrif Meets Doran, the Siege Tower?
October 26, 2016 8:50 p.m.
RazortoothMtg says... #22
but the meletis deck doesn't have black :(. No doran just Assault Formation
October 26, 2016 8:58 p.m.
DemonDragonJ says... #23
It is so nice to know that WotC is actually printing good dual lands in a preconstructed set, which they do so rarely. Obviously, they have realized that four-colored decks need to have strong mana bases, so they are ensuring that that is the case. I really hope that they print the enemy-colored "checklands" (Hinterland Harbor, Isolated Chapel, etc.) as well as the allied-colored ones (Glacial Fortress, Dragonskull Summit, etc).
Also, while the Odyssey filter lands are nice, the Shadowmoor/Eventide filter lands would have better, because they are superior in almost every way and also include enemy-colors, but I suppose that WotC did not wish to print cards that are so expensive in a preconstructed product.
October 27, 2016 12:26 a.m.
Utterly boring stuff. Massive flavor fails too... Probably not picking up one of these.
October 27, 2016 12:27 a.m.
At this point from commanders alone I think there are 2 or 3 I am willing to buy individually, Saskia the Unyielding will be a fun commander to play seeing its in my fav colors and Ive been meaning to build a strict aggro build for a while now, and I want the cute Meletis couple because Ive been wanting to play hugs but the current hug commanders have been in my case not good in the meta I play in and I think that Kynaios and Tiro of Meletis ability really hits a homerun in a way that my table would really enjoy and make for a lot of fun games!
Also can we take a moment and really appreciate how beautiful the basic land cycles are <3 Rebbeca Guey hit a homerun on her basics!
As of now I dont plan buying any of the decks, but I am more then happy to single shot for a few of the cards that I like :D
October 27, 2016 12:56 a.m.
Goblin Spymaster2R for a 2/1 first-strike goblin rogue, at the end of each opponents end step, that player creates a 1/1 goblin token with 'creatures you control attack each combat if able'
Seems great for killing off a pile of utility creatures and dealing damage around the board.
October 27, 2016 3:33 a.m.
Oh boy! I wonder if the second simic commander's been spoiled!
Checks Mythic
...Oh.
Well, I'd guessed it was going to be flat like the second Boros one... But did his ability have to cost ?! Really? That's a 2 mana ability if I ever saw it... Nice stats though for the cost.
October 27, 2016 3:53 a.m.
Skulloelegy It's an incredible mana sink, so I think that it is acceptable.
Goblin Spymaster seems like a good way to get yourself killed. The tokens will go when you do, so people will want to kill you first. Make sure you use it with Propaganda, Sphere of Safety, or Ghostly Prison.
It's alright. You have to be political with it, otherwise it's just bad.
That's actually pretty good.
October 27, 2016 4:12 a.m.
I know, late game it'll be okay and with Rashmi as part of the 99 it's great top-control. I was hoping it'd be something as simple as "You may play one extra land during each of your turns" -- Just a flat ramp bonus to go along with the explorer lore. Just seems weird to have a sink ability on something that costs 2 mana, but that's just me.
It's not like Training Grounds isn't a thing either.
October 27, 2016 4:36 a.m.
Hjaltrohir says... #30
pskinn01 which article did you find that information in?
October 27, 2016 5:28 a.m.
Armory Automaton
3
Artifact Creature - Construct
Whenever Armory Automaton enters the battlefield or attacks, attach to it any number of target equipments. (Control of Equipment doesn't change.)
Note: you can attach opposing equipment.
October 27, 2016 6:56 a.m.
EpicFreddi says... #32
Nice Batterskull you got there. It would be a shame if somebody would steal that.
October 27, 2016 7:26 a.m.
EpicFreddi They still control it, and so could bounce it at instant speed.
I was thinking Lightning Greaves and others.
October 27, 2016 8:37 a.m.
EpicFreddi says... #34
Okay, okay. Maybe we steal the jitte and remove all counters. (I'm always thinking legacy, sorry. :D )
October 27, 2016 8:49 a.m.
RazortoothMtg says... #36
But it doesn't work that way...
Also, this set has to be my favorite set ever. First vial smasher, then cruel entertainment, and now Boompile
October 27, 2016 9:53 a.m.
EpicFreddi says... #37
Since Flusterstorm happened I look at these product through whole new eyes.
October 27, 2016 9:54 a.m.
LittleBlueHero says... #38
Omeros its Reyhan, Last of the Abzan having partner isn't really a flavor fail because in the lore we know she partnered with the other khans and died defending them during the Khanfall.
Thrasios is really good. His ability isn't overcosted. It's a repeatable coiling oracle effect that allows you to scry before hand setting up what you want. Plus he has partner on top of that. Making it cheaper would simply make him too good I think.
I like that he can come down early-mid game and help set up draws to further benefit your other commander.
October 27, 2016 10:12 a.m.
The article on the rare lands is on mothership about designing set...but I was mistaken about it saying cycle, it don't. So the ones not seeing a reprint will go up some since they won't be reprinted in near future
October 27, 2016 10:14 a.m.
Hi_diddly_ho_neighbor says... #40
Huh...I wasn't too high on Saskia when I first saw her, but if Goblin Spymaster (which has the greatest art ever!) is run along side of her I could see that getting interesting. With opponent's blockers gone she becomes much more potent. Also Boompile is amazing!
EpicFreddi - You can steal an equipment with the Automaton, but you can't activate any of its abilities since you don't own it. Only the owner can activate the Jitte's abilities.
October 27, 2016 10:32 a.m.
Hi_diddly_ho_neighbor says... #41
Let me rephrase that last statement. Only the controller can activate the equipment's abilities. The Automaton only equips itself, it doesn't grant you control of the equipment.
October 27, 2016 10:44 a.m.
LittleBlueHero says... #42
Stealing equipment is fun... Especially when its sword of body and mind lol
October 27, 2016 10:46 a.m.
Sim_Will_CMcantfindmehopefully says... #43
"... be able to draw more cards, else what would be the point?" Early in, just a missing 'or'.
October 27, 2016 10:55 a.m.
EpicFreddi says... #46
I'll just slamdunk Saskia and Yidris into a 5c legacy nicfit list and dont give a fuck.
October 27, 2016 11:07 a.m.
Well, here I thought it was just going to be the next spell you cast in the turn here Yidris deals damage... Damn, now I'm legit interested in running him as my 4 colour choice! I love The Maelstrom!
October 27, 2016 11:14 a.m.
Sim_Will_CMcantfindmehopefully says... #49
I really like how that article read, and you did describe each ability very well for people who may not know them or the terminology. Seriously though the Time Spiral block will make a good portion of T/O users die of liver failure.
One note for future articles, MaRo has said that the Un-Sets comedy as much as they were testing new mechanics B.F.M. (Big Furry Monster) and meld, for example.
October 27, 2016 11:17 a.m.
Sim_Will_CMcantfindmehopefully says... #50
Don't know how those last two comments got sent here, I was on another forum, my bad I guess.
00xtremeninja says... #1
What's with the weird set symbol on the hellkite
October 26, 2016 2:29 p.m.