[Community Discussion]: C14 reactions
Spoilers, Rumors, and Speculation forum
Posted on Oct. 27, 2014, 6:29 p.m. by Epochalyptik
This Community Discussion will be the official watering hole for C14 spoiler junkies. Feel free to post sppilers, discuss the cards, and speculate on how the product will turn out.
So we have the 
legendary. It's Titania, Protector of Argoth.
Here is the link for those curious as there isn't an easy screencap for the card. It shows up around 2:01 in the video.
October 28, 2014 12:13 a.m.
I'm extremely against the $100 precon idea. Precons are made to introduce people to the format and (to some extent) rejuvenate the card pool, NOT save you money. If you hate it so much just spend the 100 on singles.
October 28, 2014 12:32 a.m.
Titania seems... underwhelming? I feel like it'll be a support card in the Azusa/Strip Mine/Crucible deck more than anything. Gives you a wincon on top of the "wincon" that is "Your opponents can't play anything".
October 28, 2014 12:42 a.m.
I'm with you erabel on Titania. She's cool, but she's not what I want to be doing in EDH.
October 28, 2014 12:45 a.m.
Like other EDH cards, Titania is strong in the right deck. Just wished she could be played earlier. Even cheap fetchlands like Terramorphic Expanse benefits you. Oh, and Tectonic Break . Yeah, she's weak.
October 28, 2014 1:33 a.m.
Whoa. I will literally buy one of these solely for Arcane Lighthouse. Luckily, it seems these decks will actually be a bit more powerful than C13, which honestly felt clunky and random. Malicious Affliction is totally awesome. Jet Medallion gives me hope that they'll print all the medallions again. I don't see why they wouldn't. I'm pretty excited about these, and look forward to seeing what else could be in here.
October 28, 2014 3:26 a.m.
I'm a little surprised there's no Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx in the black deck, seems like a good chance for Wotc to show that the new cards are good too...
October 28, 2014 5:52 a.m.
The decks as a whole might function better but I'm not seeing any value town cards yet. I guess they haven't spoiled blue though.....
October 28, 2014 7:39 a.m.
slovakattack says... #11
No Damnation ? Aaagh, what are you waiting for, Wiz?!
It wasn't in Annihilation.
It isn't in Commander.
Where is it?
October 28, 2014 9:41 a.m.
Wurmcoil Engine is getting a print based on the the new article on tokens. I guess the question is, which deck? Kinda hoping green since I was almost a lock to buy it anyway.
October 28, 2014 10:59 a.m.
FatherLiir says... #13
With a name like TukTuk how can the red planeswalker not be Slobad. My guess is the worm oil engine is going into the red deck. With a title of "Made from scratch" and Feldon in it I just feel that deck is artifact based
October 28, 2014 11:08 a.m.
If Wurmcoil Engine is really in the red deck, that one is looking awfully enticing. Feldon of the Third Path and Dualcaster Mage were already some of the best cards spoiled.
October 28, 2014 11:18 a.m.
Another possibly important thing to note: One of the tokens spoiled for the green deck was a 3/3 Beast with the art from the old Beast Within . Did anything else from back then make 3/3 Beast tokens?
October 28, 2014 11:32 a.m.
Also: Speculation for the blue and red "Offering" cards, anyone? I hope the blue one has a Call to Mind effect on it, because Talrand reasons.
October 28, 2014 11:54 a.m.
Heres for hoping that the germ token means we may get batterskull.... While im dreaming it can be in the white deck with a stoneforge mystic...
October 28, 2014 12:10 p.m.
Apocolisp - Sorry to burst your bubble, but Lashwrithe is in the Black deck. So a Batterskull reprint is unlikley.
October 28, 2014 12:33 p.m.
TonytheMeatMan says... #19
Unfortunately Lashwrithe being in the black deck makes Batterskull less likely, since it would account for the germ.
October 28, 2014 12:35 p.m.
I wonder which deck is getting the Wurmcoil, cuz I wants it.
October 28, 2014 12:35 p.m.
Lhurgyof - Odds are it's the Red once, since Ethan Fliescher said in his article that Feldon really misses his Wurmcoil Engine . I can also believe that as Wurmcoil + Feldon = NONSENSE.
October 28, 2014 12:38 p.m.
Sweet. Definitely getting it to help with my Kurkesh and Nicol Bolas decks.
October 28, 2014 12:47 p.m.
Ah Thanks, I missed the Lashwrithe , Love what coming so far, sign me up for one of each sight unseen.
October 28, 2014 12:56 p.m.
I'm silently praying for Wurmcoil Engine to be in blue, because that's the one I'm most likely to get, but it seems unlikely. Have there been any announcements on how often they'll be releasing the full decklists?
October 28, 2014 1:07 p.m.
The black decklist was a leak on 4chan, so I would be surprised if we got another full decklist unless it was, again, leaked.
October 28, 2014 1:12 p.m.
The source said that they only got hold of the black deck. The others seem unlikely at this point.
Speaking of the black deck...I like it. I look forward to playing it, especially with Obby the Planeswalker. If I have one gripe with the deck, it's this: Where's Grave Pact ? It's the one card the deck needed and they dropped the ball on it. That was far more important than the rest of the staples because of its relevance in the deck (I'm anticipating chants of "Off with his head!" on this one).
Dictate of Erebos ? Sure, that was recently printed and it's a dollar card. Butcher of Malakir ? It's in the deck, and fits in there perfectly, especially with Ghoulcaller Gisa as the general. Why no Grave Pact , Wizards? There must be some kind of explanation...but this is a good deck nonetheless.
October 28, 2014 1:36 p.m.
So I was looking at the Tokens and noticed something. According to the Collector Numbers on the tokens, Teferi's emblem is 34/36, Ob Nixlis' emblem is 35/36. So that leaves 1 more emblem left to be seen. AND, since emblems always come last, and so far we have the emblems in WUBRG order, that means that the Red PWmander will make some sort of emblem. We also don't know if we're missing an emblem for the White PWmander (who is 99% Nahiri, the Lithomancer), but here's to hoping!
October 28, 2014 2:07 p.m.
GoldGhost012 says... #28
Good eyes, JWiley129. I was convinced that was all the tokens and emblems in the decks.
October 28, 2014 2:15 p.m.
Yeah, the article didn't spoil all of the tokens/emblems (See Sylvan Offering, for example) but a good number of them. I liked the tokens for Reef Worm.
October 28, 2014 2:19 p.m.
So it was pointed out that the Lifelink Wurm token is 33/36, so there will not be an emblem from the White PWmander. That's not a huge loss, but I'm still hype to see what our others will be.
October 28, 2014 2:33 p.m.
I'm banking on a artificer for the red planeswalker, if Feldon of the Third Path and Tuktuk the Explorer are any indication.
As for Nahiri, I'm betting that she could create this:
Hedron
0/2 (3?)
Defender
When ~ enters the battlefield, choose target creature an opponent controls. That creature can't attack or block. That creature cannot activate any activated/triggered/both? abilities until ~ leaves the battlefield.
Her ultimate could create those for every creature opponents control.
October 28, 2014 2:57 p.m.
I assume that all the spoilers we've got today are all we're getting due to the unintended leak of the black deck.
October 28, 2014 3:13 p.m.
JA14732 - That's unlikely. The tokens were likely to be spoiled anyways, plus one of the black cards was spoiled by Svenska Magic, but no one found it I guess. Furthermore WotC hasn't acknowledged the Black deck has having leaked, so we'll just have to wait and see what happens from there.
October 28, 2014 3:15 p.m.
So it looks like we've got Morphs in C14.
It's certainly an interesting one.
October 28, 2014 4:01 p.m.
I'm guessing that there will be at least 3-5 other morph cards in the deck. The card would be useless alone.
October 28, 2014 4:02 p.m.
prepping to raid the local targets to snatch up as many as possible...
October 28, 2014 4:49 p.m.
Already pre-ordered the set. I hope the rest of the decks are as good and appealing as the black one.
October 28, 2014 5 p.m.
AngelicCookies says... #40
I think people believe Freyalise is more well known than she is; anyone who wasn't into the Brother's War wouldn't know her. She's also only reference on a total of three cards, only one of which in flavor text. She could be the obscure one and we could still be getting another old one. On an off topic argument, Wurmcoil Engine reprint confirmed, likely in the red deck due to the placing of the tokens on the wizards spoiler article. Also likely for Beast Within to be reprinted due to one of the tokens spoiled.
October 28, 2014 5:34 p.m.
So we probably all realized that Titania is good with Armageddon
, well WotC went and made a "Armageddon
." Although it's closer to Jokulhaups
.
October 28, 2014 6:03 p.m.
._. THAT is a card. Damn. Omnath could wreck some serious shit with that card. ANY monogreen deck could wreck some serious shit with that card.
October 28, 2014 6:07 p.m.
...aaaand my Five-Color deck went the way of the dinosaurs. D:
That is a nasty effect. It certainly works with Titania but you'd have to be running a lot of nonbasic lands.
October 28, 2014 6:13 p.m.
slovakattack says... #45
I'm -really- liking the look of the green deck. I may even pick one up to have, even though none of my friends really play EDH xD
October 28, 2014 6:56 p.m.
Femme_Fatale says... #46
I'll get to work on this right away, I just watched some very inspirational videos on Thorium Reactors. I have a thread of them in the blind eternities.
October 28, 2014 7:05 p.m.
Can anyone find and post a picture of the black decklist? I guess that site is getting a lot of traffic because I can't load it.
October 28, 2014 7:06 p.m.
AngryBearTony says... #48
I cannot be the only one salivating over some of these. That is some freakin' card.
As for that enigmatic green 3/3 beast token, it could be a few different things. So could the 2/2 wolf. Although it seems there is a lot of grave interaction with these newer cards. Possible Thragtusk ?
October 28, 2014 7:48 p.m.
New land for Red commander deck. I'll let MTG Salvation translate it for us.
Maybe the Red PW is Ashling the Pilgrim ? It's unlikely but that's some of the chatter right now.
October 28, 2014 8:52 p.m.
Femme_Fatale says... #50
Bad news folks, until yeaGO fixes the admin pages, I cannot accept card submissions. I learned this after already doing submissions to all the cards and attempting to accept them, only to get ornithoptered and everything being rejected and erased.
Boo hoo.
ColdHeartedSith says... #1
@JWiley129I guess...
October 28, 2014 12:08 a.m.