[Community Discussion]: C14 reactions
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Posted on Oct. 27, 2014, 6:29 p.m. by Epochalyptik
This Community Discussion will be the official watering hole for C14 spoiler junkies. Feel free to post sppilers, discuss the cards, and speculate on how the product will turn out.
CalmingRespirator says... #2
So how long will it be before we can build decks with the new cards in them? I gotta take a proper look at the Freyalise deck and see what I can do to make it even more awesome.
October 31, 2014 9:53 p.m.
lemmingllama says... #3
@CalmingRespirator The decks release on November 7th. So you have a week, then it will be party time.
October 31, 2014 9:58 p.m.
CalmingRespirator says... #4
Alright, cool, I wonder if I can find a place in Australia where I can pre order just one of them, I don't really have enough for all 5 and that appears to be the only way to get them... Also, when will the cards be up on here? like to make decklists? I normally find it easier to know what I need if I can see the list on something like this site.
October 31, 2014 10:02 p.m.
lemmingllama says... #5
@CalmingRespirator The decks will be available at your LGS or at places like Walmart or Target. Currently they are selling the decks in packs of 5 since stores can only purchase the decks from Wizards in the 5 packs. Once they are released, you should be able to find places that sell them individually.
Also currently the card database is all messed up. You will probably have to talk to Femme_Fatale to find out when the cards will be up, but it likely wont be for a little while.
October 31, 2014 10:09 p.m.
CalmingRespirator says... #7
I can wait, thanks for the help! :)
I'm just a little worried that the prices are going to be really high considering how much value there is in each of them and the fact that I'm in Australia. Ah well, I guess I'll deal with it.
October 31, 2014 10:23 p.m.
PreZchoICE1 says... #8
CalmingRespirator much like Mind Seize, the red deck is the one with a whole pile of big value cards. It will be the one that will be sold out everywhere you go. All the others will be fairly easy to come by at a reasonable price.
October 31, 2014 10:26 p.m.
Femme_Fatale says... #9
I actually think I know what may be causing it. The blasted promo set. I'm going to do a few tests, with caution. I'm afraid of the entire database just blowing up on me.
October 31, 2014 10:29 p.m.
Femme_Fatale says... #10
Nope, that certainly wasn't it! Well, looks like you folks are kinda shit outta luck here. I mean I COULD do it via the add card form on the admin page, but that form is so clunky and slow it would actually take me a lot longer (like 1-2 weeks longer) than normal to do so. So here's to hoping yeaGO can get it fixed.
October 31, 2014 10:37 p.m.
CalmingRespirator says... #11
I know a couple friends who are going to be particularly disappointed by not being able to get their hands on the Red deck, but as long as I can get my hands on the Green one (and maybe some of the others, but mostly the Green one) I'm going to be pretty happy. I'm really surprised by the amount of card draw in there, it's actually really really cool.
Also, good luck with the database Femme_Fatale, keep up the good work!
October 31, 2014 10:43 p.m.
fadelightningmm says... #12
reef worm and thunderfoot baloth have all my love
November 1, 2014 2:04 a.m.
Femme_Fatale says... #13
So at the cost of breaking a few images until next month, yeago fixed the card submission form. I should have all of them done by Sunday.
November 1, 2014 2:24 a.m.
CastleSiege says... #15
lemmingllama, Wizards publicly apologized about the whole Mindseize fiasco so you'd think that they would have learned their lesson and let stores purchase the decks individually rather than than in the set of 5. That's the bloody reason stores never restocked Mindseize. Mindseize would sell out immediately and the other 4 decks hardly sold, so the stores would have to wait for the rest to sell before they restocked. Then the process would repeat all over again >.>
November 1, 2014 12:11 p.m.
My store is pretty small so I Facebook'd the owner asking him to hold me a Red deck and he said he only got allocated 1 case (with 1 of each deck in it). They still come in 5's, and stores can't just order as much as they want anyway. Hopefully to prevent what happened last time they increased the print run and will allow restocks more like every 2 weeks to keep supplies up. My store is gonna sell out in like 2 hours, so hopefully he can get more quickly to keep sales up.
November 1, 2014 12:18 p.m.
I wonder, since the blue deck comes with Cackling Counterpart and Rite of Replication , do you guys think they'll make a token for them? It would be cool to see, so people won't get confused but at the same time, I'm thinking they won't.
November 1, 2014 5:38 p.m.
Femme_Fatale says... #18
False alarm, the admin pages for accepting card submissions have boinked again.
November 1, 2014 8:01 p.m.
The tokens are copies of target creature, so they are different depending on the target. So making static tokens would not be such a useful thing for those cards.
November 1, 2014 8:06 p.m.
The planeswalkers are awesome. The green one will be awesome in casual elf decks, too. Making this one mono colored was a good change-up idea - the decks are probably quite a bit weaker than previous years because of the limited colors, but they will be easier to get into for new players.
November 1, 2014 8:44 p.m.
vishnarg: I don't know about that. These decks are much better than both C11 and C13.
C11 added more wedge options but the majority of decks were filled with chaff.
C13 was a little better but the deck themes were split in half (Except Prossh's deck to a degree).
November 1, 2014 8:56 p.m.
I think I might get black and white when they come out just cuz then I can play Ob Nixilis vs Nahiri. I might get blue at a later date so I can have Gissa vs Geralf. I'm such a lore lover.
November 1, 2014 8:57 p.m.
I agree with Phaetion. The first two years they were testing the water and made a lot of mistakes (don't even talk to me about thought seize). This time the decks look very even and they are a lot different than the previous decks which were very rough. I think this is a step in the right direction and that wizards should continue down this path.
November 1, 2014 9:10 p.m.
MarduGras: I was actually going to do the same thing. Also Gisa vs. Geralf, Teferi vs. Freyalise and a "what if" scenario in Feldon vs. Titania.
Looking at the image gallery, the decklists, and all the flavor battles (not to mention 5-way Planechase) are just some of the reasons why I have no regrets getting all 5 decks.
November 1, 2014 10:09 p.m.
I just pre ordered mine today. I'm just gonna make it the most bomb commander deck possible, just lock down the board with artifacts and crush everything!
November 2, 2014 2:06 a.m.
Rakdos_CacklerXXX says... #26
I feel the whole set is done very well and commander players will be loving this when it is released. Planeswalkers do not seem overly powerful and imo are all decent to play.
I love how many cards just hose certain types of strategies. My derevi edh is based around blinking and well that stupid flash guy that exiles things coming into play, kinda wrecks it lol. Looking forward to being destroyed by that.
November 2, 2014 9:31 a.m.
iheartblue says... #27
Preordered the green one yesterday. Can't wait to get my Priest of Titania , Sol Ring , Emerald Medallion , Moss Diamond , Skullclamp , Drove of Elves , Immaculate Magistrate , and Imperious Perfect along with a lot of the other goodies.
November 2, 2014 10:24 a.m.
Can't wait to get the blue and red decks. I plan to hopefully split the white deck with a buddy since I only want half of the white deck.
November 2, 2014 12:19 p.m.
Femme_Fatale says... #29
Okay, so it is going to take much more time then this because of all the problems we are experiecing. For some reason, whatever yeago fixes, breaks the moment he leaves.
So ... expect them to be done Friday or so. I was hoping to get most of them done yesterday and then finish of the stragglers today, but now I've got midterms to study for.
November 2, 2014 4:29 p.m.
actually really excited for the whole black deck. almost all of the cards in C14 are quality, but black seems to have the most in my opinion. besides the fact that I like Ob Nixilis of the Black Oath the most out of the planeswalkers. So fun and flavorful.
November 2, 2014 5:51 p.m.
PaladinRyan says... #32
I really want the white one but need money first... the struggles of playing magic while attending college with no reliable income...
November 2, 2014 6:30 p.m.
I know right DarkHero. I mean he's exactly what I thought he would look like before he lost his spark. I wonder if Lilliana will be affected by the power of the chain veil like him.
November 2, 2014 7:57 p.m.
PaladinRyan says... #35
Unlikely. Or if they did it would be simply waiting to betray each other as soon as possible. They don't have similar objectives to my knowledge and would see each other as threats more than anything.
November 2, 2014 8:06 p.m.
MarduGras Really I'm surprised they haven't yet. She wouldn't mind being a demon anyways besides the whole losing your spark thing. But I mean remember that this is old Ob Nixilis. Right now he is chillin on Zendikar stuck as a demon. Not 100% on the lore but last I checked he just barely got some of his power back after being imprisoned. Hence he shift from Ob Nixilis, the Fallen to Ob Nixilis, Unshackled . I'm sure now that hes free he will get into some trouble, which Lili always likes to get help with if it means shell get some benefit from it.
Again I'm not 100% on the lore, I don't know shit again The Chain Veil , but if Lili is using it anywhere near to the extent Nixilis was she may eventually see some adverse effects. I'm still leaning towards him joining the alliance to take back Zendikar from the Eldrazi because he wants to destroy the colorless stuff that cursed him, from the flavor text of Nixilis the fallen. Once Kiora and Gideon and all them get there armies together I think he will be encouraged to join in out of spite.
November 2, 2014 8:10 p.m.
But PaladinRyan is right, if they did it would be on very loose terms and someone would eventually be betrayed. Neither of them play well with others.
November 2, 2014 8:13 p.m.
Maybe one of lili's remaining demon masters are on Zendikar and she enlists Ob's help. After they defeat the demon using their combined power he betrays her and steals the chain veil hoping to find a way to to regain his spark and keep his immortality. Now wouldn't that be interesting.
November 2, 2014 8:48 p.m.
all i could think of when i read MarduGras's was the dramatic plot twist music "Duh duh duh". lol
November 2, 2014 9:22 p.m.
Femme_Fatale says... #41
OKAY! Let's try this one more time! It works for now, but for how long?
November 2, 2014 11:50 p.m.
Slightly bummed out that I already have the majority of the Green deck in my Rhys the Redeemed deck. Might just preorder Freyalise, Llanowar's Fury , Song of the Dryads, and another card or two from it, since as I'm currently focusing on commander I have little use for duplicate cards. Do like the idea of turning a threat into a forest and stomping with forestwalk, though.
If I don't have trouble getting it at cost I'm pretty sure I'll be grabbing the white deck.
November 3, 2014 8:41 a.m.
it looks like the card names are loading. But the images aren't up yet. I believe the images is normal though if memory serves correctly?
November 3, 2014 3:36 p.m.
I pre ordered built from scratch. I'm mostly going for an artifact thing, not sure how i feel about daretti though.
November 3, 2014 4:21 p.m.
Femme_Fatale says... #45
@ Bellock86: Cards that are either A) Reprints or B) Have been uploaded by users other than myself, won't have their images fixed until the list system reset from exactly one month from which the cards have been uploaded. Hence why I don't trust anyone else uploading these things or that I make sure to check every image someone else submits, because more often then not they are crunk images.
November 3, 2014 4:58 p.m.
Femme_Fatale - not complaining. Just remembered that there was a "process" to it but never knew what the process was. I assumed it was a daunting and time consuming task. Thank you for all of your effort to insure that we have a quality image uploaded.
November 3, 2014 6:02 p.m.
Femme_Fatale says... #47
If you know how to do it properly, it takes a couple of days. But one needs to have gyazo in order to use it properly. Good thing it's free.
November 3, 2014 7:42 p.m.
Wait a minute Phaetion. When did Teferi fight Frayalise? If you could post your source that would be great.
November 3, 2014 8:54 p.m.
They didn't canonically but I was playing it off of the conflict during Time Spiral. Basically, Freyalise refused to believe what Teferi was saying about the time rifts, being a xenophobe at the time (har har).
It's the kind of conflict Venser and Koth had. Or something similar.
November 3, 2014 9:20 p.m.
Ok I understand where your coming from. I'm still not going to count it just because then I will have four of the decks and I will want to have the red deck to complete the set but don't have the cash.
Darquell says... #1
YAAY THE LITHOMANCER REVEALED AND IS PLANESWALKER COMMANDER!!!
October 31, 2014 8:10 p.m.