[Community Discussion]: The official Dragons of Tarkir spoiler/speculation discussion
Spoilers, Rumors, and Speculation forum
Posted on March 1, 2015, 1:18 p.m. by Epochalyptik
In an effort to cut down on the number of spoiler threads, this Community Discussion will serve as the site's official Dragons of Tarkir spoiler and speculation thread!
Feel free to discuss any spoiled cards or speculate on unrevealed cards! Post images or links as they become available!
Set Info:
Set Name: Dragons of Tarkir
Set Abbreviation: DTK
Release Date: March 27, 2015
Prerelease Events: March 21-22, 2015
Release Events: March 27-29, 2015
Spoiler Links:
Other links will be added as they become available.
Other notes:
According to MTGS, "An evolution of Manifest will be further explored as a parallel to Morph. Dash and Bolster will return from Fate Reforged. In addition, three new mechanics will be featured."
Is Lingering Souls really such a big deal that Virulent Plague will be all over Modern sideboards?
March 13, 2015 1:01 p.m.
Virulent Plague doesn't seem like a good sideboard card for Modern... it's too limited in the number of decks it works against.
If Tokens became more popular, I could see more hate against it, but things like Ratchet Bomb do the trick, and can be used against a larger number of decks.
March 13, 2015 1:02 p.m.
It's not. What I'm saying is, if it ever becomes, everyone will start sideboarding Virulent Plague. So, I can't really get excited about any cards that make B/W tokens better for now.
March 13, 2015 1:03 p.m.
Gah, forgot about Ratchet Bomb. Probably because it doesn't see nearly as much play as it should.
March 13, 2015 1:05 p.m.
Well... it's not a permanent stopper. it's just a 1-time explosion that can somewhat be played around. But it still hits more decks than Virulent Plague.
Besides there's already Illness in the Ranks that never sees play. (Though it's offset by a single Intangible Virtue)
March 13, 2015 1:11 p.m.
Though... with Virulent Plague and Illness in the Ranks combined, I could see a fun Modern deck running Forbidden Orchard and the Hunted Creatures... Hunted Horror, Hunted Phantasm, Hunted Troll...
I mean a great hand would look like:
T1: Forbidden Orchard, Illness in the Ranks
T2: Forbidden Orchard, Hunted Horror
T3: Swamp, Virulent Plague, swing with a 7/7 Trample!
March 13, 2015 1:16 p.m.
It could also use Curse of the Swine and Pongify as removal.
March 13, 2015 1:17 p.m.
Beast Within is good... though I'd probably use it as sideboard. - 3 mana is a bit much when Pongify is available... but important to have against Artifacts and Enchantments... and even Land, if needed.
March 13, 2015 1:28 p.m.
again... probably sideboard, but yes, definitely a good option.
March 13, 2015 3:02 p.m.
Rayenous, Beast Within should be main boarded. It allows you to attack mana bases, planeswalkers, etc. It says permanent, not creature, which is why it is 3 mana, and ultimately better.
March 13, 2015 3:24 p.m.
Wait, you got that, but still, it is much better than pongify, and i prefer giving them 3/3 frog lizards over apes with Rapid Hybridization
March 13, 2015 3:26 p.m.
Have you guys seen Berserker's Onlsaught? It seems really good in some RG(U) deck!
March 13, 2015 5:27 p.m.
Souljacker says... #18
I think green has a lot of useless commons and uncommons so I won't be getting a green pre release deck. I think I'm picking Kholagan or ojutai.
March 13, 2015 5:49 p.m.
I don't know why anyone is fretting over Virulent Plague in modern. I don't think you'll ever run into it. Too narrow for a SB slot.
March 13, 2015 6:08 p.m.
i may try out Foul-Tongue Shriek in my moderen tokens
March 13, 2015 6:11 p.m.
Femme_Fatale says... #21
I apologize about the idiots who still don't know how to properly submit cards to the database ... Well, I've got a lot of work ahead of me for the next week. Hoo boy.
- Artful Maneuver
- Assault Formation
- Atarka Monument
- Avatar of the Resolute
- Crater Elemental
- Custodian of the Trove
- Draconic Roar
- Dragonlord's Prerogative
- Dromoka Monument
- Duress
- Haven of the Spirit Dragon
- Hedonist's Trove
- Herdchaser Dragon
- Ire Shaman
- Kolaghan Monument
- Kolaghan's Command
- Ojutai Monument
- Qarsi Deceiver
- Rending Volley
- Scion of Ugin
- Shieldhide Dragon
- Silumgar Monument
- Silumgar's Scorn
- Tapestry of the Ages
- Clone Legion
- Dromoka's Command
- Belltoll Dragon
- Icefall Regent
- Sarkhan's Triumph
- Surrak, the Hunt Caller
March 13, 2015 6:46 p.m.
GoldGhost012 says... #22
I think people are just concerned with getting them in the database ASAP with no regards to the consequences.
March 13, 2015 7:14 p.m.
Femme_Fatale says... #23
They aren't doing even that very well when they are submitting the cards after I've already done so.
March 13, 2015 8:06 p.m.
Grixis-Soldier says... #24
Femme_Fatale I just wanted to say a huge thanks to you and all the card submissions you've been putting in, building up my new decks would've been a massive pain without you! :D
March 13, 2015 9:48 p.m.
shinobigarth says... #25
thanks for all the work Femme and sorry for all the morons who can't figure out how to do it. thats why i don't even try, you do a good job and i don't wanna mess something up.
March 14, 2015 1:02 a.m.
I don't know if it's been said yet, since there are quite a few pages since I've checked last, but am I the only one disappointed that we didn't see the Ankle Shanker evolution into Vial Smasher as he was referred to in Uncharted Realms when Sarkhan arrives in the present? Also kind of figured we'd see a Taigam
March 14, 2015 10:09 a.m.
FatherLiir says... #27
We never saw that girl shaman with quotes on every Temur card in lore, I'm not surprised we got nothing more than quotes from Taigam.
That being said, the instant "Target player sacrifices a creature and you gain 4 life" has me pumped.
March 14, 2015 12:46 p.m.
Well crackling doom is limited to Mardu decks so foul tongue invocation is pretty good for UB/Esper control.
March 14, 2015 2:33 p.m.
Master2014 says... #31
Why is it taking so long for the full release on here? It's already out on mythicspoiler.com. I would like to start making decks using the newest cards, so if an admin reads this, please if you can, somehow get the spoiler done. Thanks. -Master2014
March 14, 2015 6:53 p.m.
This takes forever to do. Femme_Fatale is probably one of the only ones working on it right now, and she is doing a great job. Plus, the set isn't even released so they technically don't HAVE to have it done.
keep up the good work, TO team of peoples.
March 14, 2015 6:56 p.m.
IndepenentMeta says... #34
Just saw some badass token card goes like
(w)(x) Instant Generate x amount of 1/1 tokens
March 14, 2015 7:59 p.m.
FAMOUSWATERMELON says... #35
Just out of curiosity, when are the cards coming to the site? It's been two solid days since everything has been spoiled. I know that Femme_Fatale is working on it, could she give us an update?
March 14, 2015 8:11 p.m.
Hi_diddly_ho_neighbor says... #36
IndepenentMeta, I think you are referring to Secure the Wastes and yes it looks awesome!
March 14, 2015 8:19 p.m.
Femme_Fatale says... #39
I have no idea when. At most it'll all be up in 4 days. Or whenever it goes on gatherer because that is when yeago's automatic importing kicks in.
Or maybe he takes it off of magicinfo now ...
March 14, 2015 9:05 p.m.
IndepenentMeta says... #40
Put in warbringer I wanna proxy the deck before i make it in RL
March 14, 2015 9:08 p.m.
Lol patience guys. It is quite the process to get it all in
March 14, 2015 9:54 p.m.
IndepenentMeta says... #44
There's a card that gives you protection then rebounds...
Ouja turbo here I come ;D
March 15, 2015 1:35 a.m.
JohnnyBaggins says... #46
So do you guys think the Dragon-Names will take over comapred to the Ravnica names? The Khans-of-Tarkir-Clan-Names got stuck pretty quickly, but I really like the Ravnica names. Will we really call Azorius Ojutai and will Gruul really be called Atarka?
March 15, 2015 7:28 a.m.
Dunno, I think the old names will stick. I was refering to players choosing Ojutai at prerelease so I wrote Ojutai players.
Then again players usually don't call U/W Heroic Azorius aggro do they?
March 15, 2015 8:16 a.m.
No, or else we'd be calling Dimir 'Lazav', and Selesnya 'Trostani'.
March 15, 2015 8:17 a.m.
The KTK clan names stuck because there were no official names for the wedges before them. DTK clan names are a different story - plus, they don't even cover all of the two-color combinations, so I don't think we'll be seeing a lot of people saying "Kolaghan" instead of Rakdos two years from now.
March 15, 2015 9:17 a.m.
the ravnica names are all ready ingrained in everyones minds, also, Khan's names aren't really sticking around. And I call it azorius aggro
Rayenous says... #1
T1:
Followed by T2:
Seems like a good start to me.
March 13, 2015 1 p.m.