[Community Discussion]: The official Fate Reforged spoiler discussion

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Posted on Dec. 27, 2014, 11 p.m. by Epochalyptik

This will be the official one-thread-covers-all discussion for Fate Reforged spoilers.

Fate Reforged overview:
Number of Cards: 185
Prerelease Events: January 17-18, 2015
Release Date: January 23, 2015
Game Day: February 13, 2015
Official Three-Letter Code: FRF

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Bellock86 says... #1

LIVEFORCHAOS ~ now I'm curious about this game where this happened. Lol

January 9, 2015 9:12 p.m.

Femme_Fatale says... #2

Okay, now that I've finished my break and fiddling with my username, I'll go back to finishing the other half of this set. It is another long and arduous 5 hours to go.

January 9, 2015 9:31 p.m.

MWorl91 says... #3

I'm kind of excited to get my hands on these cards. I've already designed Abzan, Temur, and Sultai decks around some of them and I can't wait to get to use them. Especially, Ghastly Conscription which looks like a really fun card.

January 9, 2015 9:36 p.m.

FatherLiir says... #4

I Don't understand why Ghastly Conscription has you shuffle the face down pile... what does that add or remove from the game?

January 9, 2015 9:40 p.m.

Bellock86 says... #5

FatherLiir ~ it's so you can't stack the cards in a certain order to know which ones are creatures or lands etc. Like if you had Courser of Kruphix or something.

January 9, 2015 9:42 p.m.

Bellock86 says... #6

I'm sorry. Forget about that courser part. Just the stacking cards thing since it's your graveyard which can be looked through/checked over whenever you want.

January 9, 2015 9:44 p.m.

@bellock66 As - fan (meaning "as you fan put the cards"). So the asfan of dragons in ftr is the average number of dragons seen in a given booster pack. So you will typically see 2 dragons for every 3 packs you open of the set. Remember, though, this is an average, so opening 3 packs with an asfan of .67 doesn't mean you will see 2 dragons, but you likely would

January 9, 2015 9:52 p.m.

MWorl91 says... #8

I assumed you shuffle them so your opponent can't look at the face down manifestations. He might remember all the creatures you had in the grave but he won't know which is which on the field until they flip.

January 9, 2015 9:56 p.m.

Femme_Fatale says... #9

I'M ALMOST DONE!

January 10, 2015 12:39 a.m.

WARPOPE says... #10

Yay lemme set some spellhearts ablaze.

January 10, 2015 12:44 a.m.

Femme_Fatale says... #11

I HAVE FINISHED ADDING ALL THE CARDS!!!

IT TOOK ME 9 1/2 HOURS TO DO!

... I'm tired.

January 10, 2015 1:44 a.m.

NixTheThird says... #12

You are a wonderful nerd, Femme_Fatale. Thank you kindly

January 10, 2015 1:58 a.m.

Hjaltrohir says... #13

In my opinion, Fate Reforged is turning out to be a nice, solid set, decent for limited and ok for constructed.

January 10, 2015 2:30 a.m.

shinobigarth says... #14

Thanks Femme :)

January 10, 2015 3:23 a.m.

The_Raven says... #15

Can it really be true, that RED is the ONLY color, that don't get a mythic besides the Khans?!

January 10, 2015 1:16 p.m.

greyninja says... #16

January 10, 2015 1:44 p.m.

mpeach1 says... #17

Solid Femme

January 10, 2015 2:46 p.m.

The_Raven says... #18

Shaman of the Great Hunt is what I meant with "Khans" :)

All other colors have gotten a mythic "Khan leader thing" and another mythic. Red has only gotten the "Khan leader thing"!!

January 10, 2015 2:53 p.m.

lemmingllama says... #19

January 10, 2015 3:16 p.m.

Necrotize says... #20

Ehh I feel like red did fine in this set. White did extremely well, especially if you just look at the two mythics they got.

I'm not really impressed by blue's mythics though. Torrent Elemental's activated ability seems really random.

January 10, 2015 3:22 p.m.

@Necrotize: What do you mean his ability seems random? he comes back from exile with his ability, which makes perfect sense considering sultai exiles cards from their yard with delve. they also have Whip of Erebos that can exile him. he is nearly impossible to get rid of.

January 10, 2015 3:39 p.m.

Necrotize says... #22

Ahh, totally forgot about Delve. Never mind lol. Actually like him a lot more now. I'm not huge into standard(or at all really) but delve has probably been the first mechanic to pique my interest in it. I still think Red did just fine with only one mythic, especially for me since I can totally see a use for Shaman of the Great Hunt in a few EDH decks, namely Mayael and Marchesa.

January 10, 2015 3:50 p.m.

Raphiezar says... #23

I see Ojutai, Soul of Winter missing from the systems database.

January 10, 2015 3:51 p.m.

rob_shifflett says... #24

How is Shaman of the Great Hunt legal in Mayael or Marchesa? It's color identity is RGU.

January 10, 2015 4:07 p.m.

Necrotize says... #25

Why do I have to overlook every single thing whenever I post shit. I was really looking forward to using that card too T_T

January 10, 2015 4:17 p.m.

Raphiezar says... #26

I was mistaken Ojoutai, Soul of Winter isn't missing, the name is just spelled incorrectly.

January 10, 2015 4:22 p.m.

Schuesseled says... #27

It's a shame, it be great with marchesa

January 10, 2015 7:54 p.m.

Necrotize says... #28

I know, I was so excited :(

Suppose it could have its uses in Animar, not that he needed any help to begin with.

January 10, 2015 8:01 p.m.

greyninja says... #29

January 10, 2015 8:17 p.m.

Femme_Fatale says... #30

Oops. I guess I have one more card to add.

January 10, 2015 8:38 p.m.

MWorl91 says... #31

Femme_Fatale can you fix Marang River Prowler the site thinks he's white.

January 10, 2015 9:04 p.m.

buildingadeck says... #32

So, now that we've had some time to digest the new cards, which are everyone's favorites?

I have to say that mine is between Reality Shift and Temur Sabertooth. The first because I need removal for my mono-blue that doesn't simply bounce, and the second because I like building decks that maintain board state, and it can help with that.

January 10, 2015 9:12 p.m.

My favorite cards are Torrent Elemental, Alesha, Who Smiles at Death and Yasova Dragonclaw since they each got me to brew a deck around them.

Torrent Elemental made me want to try sidisi whip:


Torrential Whip Playtest

Standard* CalmingRespirator

SCORE: 1 | 1 COMMENTS | 61 VIEWS


Alesha made me want to try new ways of abusing etb affects:


Smiling at the Reaper Playtest

Commander / EDH* CalmingRespirator

SCORE: 0 | 0 COMMENTS | 16 VIEWS


And Yasova got me to build a tiny leaders deck:


Under the Dragon's Claw Playtest

Tiny Leaders* CalmingRespirator

SCORE: 0 | 0 COMMENTS | 2 VIEWS


I also kind of want to try Alesha, Who Smiles at Death in a standard jund reanimator list. Hornet Queen has 2 power you know.

January 10, 2015 9:41 p.m.

xcn says... #34

I really like Atarka, World Render because when I play a seven-mana dragon, I want it to END things when it attacks. Temur Battle Rage is a great combat trick, and I really want to build B/W warriors because of Brutal Hordechief too.

January 10, 2015 10:47 p.m.

mpeach1 says... #35

Ooh Alesha with Hornet Queen and Frontier Siege could be sick

January 11, 2015 1:40 a.m.

Hjaltrohir says... #36

My favs are the vere-boring and ever-unoriginal Monastery Mentor and Soulfire Grand Master otherwise, I really like Hero's Blade and Torrent Elemental is just waiting to be brewed around. Its a shame that Brutal Hordechief cant be played in Marchesa, he would have fitted straight in to my deck...

January 11, 2015 2:19 a.m.
January 11, 2015 2:25 a.m.

Femme_Fatale says... #38

I really enjoy Brutal Hordechief. So far being able to swing with 7 creatures, gain 7 life and force 7 damage through even if they have a heavy amount of blockers is a real boon. Haven't activated is blocking ability yet.

January 11, 2015 2:32 a.m.

jr92_2000 says... #39

@TrystonSpencer Neutralizing Blast doesn't seem playable in limited. Rakshasa's Disdain is fine, but it's just a less color intensive, less reliable Cancel.

January 11, 2015 2:52 a.m.

Nomp says... #40

I want Write into Being, Jeskai Infiltrator, Whisperwood Elemental, and Temur War Shaman. I really like the idea of manifest.

January 11, 2015 2:52 a.m.

mpeach1 says... #41

In just FRF limited Neutralizing Blast isn't very effective, but in Khans block limited it will be extremely effective I'd think.

January 11, 2015 4:18 a.m.

landstalker10 says... #42

Quick question, Mardu Strike Leader, would his ability stack if you had multiple of him on the field?

January 11, 2015 6:12 a.m.

quesobueno123 says... #43

landstalker10 Yes each one would generate a token.

January 11, 2015 6:29 a.m.

Schuesseled says... #44

They would each generate a token but they wouldn't stack; with each one generating a token for each of them on the field.

January 11, 2015 7:56 a.m.

@landstalker quesobueno123: His ability does not stack. they each generate one token for themselves, and that is it. When a card says its name in the text like that, it is referring specifically to itself. The reason they do that is so something like Lazav, Dimir Mastermind cant get the trigger if he is a copy of Mardu Strike Leader, since his name stays Lazav.

If it said "whenever a creature you control named Mardu Strike Leader attacks..." then the abilities would stack

January 11, 2015 1:59 p.m.

Wodar says... #46

CommanderOfBolas - I thought that when a card mentions its card name in a card, it is the same as saying "This card" so shouldn't Lazav, Dimir Mastermind get a 2/1 if it is a copy of Mardu Strike Leader?

January 11, 2015 2:52 p.m.

Schuesseled says... #47

yes it would.

January 11, 2015 3:09 p.m.

FatherLiir says... #48

At this point I think I'm grabbing either the Temur or Abzan pre-release pack, either way is a win, win and i'll be excited to see how all my matches go :)

January 11, 2015 3:34 p.m.

MWorl91 says... #49

ill go temur or sultai i think

January 11, 2015 3:46 p.m.

mpeach1 says... #50

Yea I'm thinking I'll be going sultai as well

January 11, 2015 3:50 p.m.

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