Eldritch Moon Spoiler Thread
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Posted on June 20, 2016, 11:36 a.m. by DarkLaw
I don't think there is one yet, at least not one posted recently. If there is, feel free to correct me.
PistonGolem says... #2
Opponent: "Ok, swing with my big creature"
You: "Flash the Mass, block, now your big attacker is a 1/3"
Opponent: "oh"
July 5, 2016 7:24 p.m.
I want someone to slap the Troll Face on Permeating Mass.
July 5, 2016 7:25 p.m.
MindAblaze says... #4
Gideon prevents all damage to himself when he's in creature form. Flavorful and mechanically important because a Planeswalker who takes damage loses loyalty in addition to having damage marked on it. So a 5/5 Gideon with 4 loyalty takes 4 damage to die, not 5.
July 5, 2016 7:32 p.m. Edited.
shinobigarth says... #5
I'm just worried that nobody is gonna get to have nice things anymore with the Mass :( gotta kill that little sucker quick or your dudes become lame haha.
July 5, 2016 9:02 p.m.
yeah, I definitely see that happening. So glad we have Ride Down and Murder reprints so there's ways of dealing with him at instant speed lol
July 5, 2016 9:05 p.m.
I don't think Ride Down can deal with Gideon... but Murder sure can.
Anyways that 4/5 dragon looks pretty cool. I don't know if it's "good" but it's certainly going to make some very fun EDH games. It may be just what people needed to bother playing Riku over a 
extra turns EDH deck this season.
Permeating Mass was almost amazing but then they made it say "combat damage".
July 5, 2016 10:28 p.m.
OMG this sums up how I felt about that 2/2 red creature so perfectly.
July 5, 2016 10:30 p.m.
GeminiSpartanX says... #11
Isn't Gideon indestructible? I'm not seeing how Murder will help there.
July 5, 2016 10:34 p.m.
My comment was referring to Permeating Mass not Gideon, thats what the Ride Down and Murder were supposed to kill.
July 5, 2016 11:21 p.m.
Punderstorm says... #14
What's so bad about red getting a 2/2 for 1R? Vanilla bears are solid in limited but never game breaking in any format.
July 6, 2016 12:10 a.m.
Souljacker says... #15
It's breaking the color identities, red never got a vanilla bear before.
July 6, 2016 2:57 a.m.
Punderstorm says... #16
So? I don't remember them ever saying they wouldn't. It's just a vanilla 2/2 for two mana.
July 6, 2016 4:58 a.m.
Souljacker says... #17
Yeah of course it's not game breaking, red got Ash Zealots and other good bears before, this is just the first vanilla one.
July 6, 2016 5:58 a.m.
Red has exactly 21 bears, but all either have a drawback, or cost 
.
July 6, 2016 6:19 a.m.
Green and White have the most (48 and 75 respectively, with few having drawbacks). Blue has the least at 11 (most of which being Lords or Merfolk), and Black is similar to Red with it's bears.
July 6, 2016 6:25 a.m.
JKLawson89 says... #20
Brewing the ba-geezeus out of Permeating Mass.
Basically giving it first strike and indestructible, Not Forgotten for vs cards like Languish.
I love the card, its so derpy!
July 6, 2016 6:57 a.m.
Permeating Mass + Assault Formation = I deal 3 damage... then your creature becomes a 1/3 and dies.
This just might make it into my Doran, the Siege Tower/Assault Formation Modern brew.
July 6, 2016 7:48 a.m. Edited.
demonicgrizzly says... #22
the more i look at Permeating Mass the more broken it seems for one mana. a 1 mana 1/3 is good on it's own..but that ability is the ultimate troll. and with Assault Formation out, that's a good time if you can give it first strike
July 6, 2016 9:25 a.m.
demonicgrizzly - No need for first strike when you have Assault Formation... just a little mana, and you can pump it to be larger than most threats. - Even if you can't trading a 1-Drop 1/3 to kill literally anything is very powerful. Gets around Indestructible, any size toughness, regenerate (though you will have to hit it twice, as the first kill can still be regenerated)... so long as they are the creature's own ability... abilities like Avacyn's Indestructible, being granted from a different source, will still apply.
The only thing this pairing of cards doesn't automatically kill are things with +1/+1 counters (or other permanent buffs).
July 6, 2016 9:32 a.m. Edited.
According to MaRo There's 14 Mythics and 47 rares in Eldritch Moon, and I've counted them in Mythicspoiler, and we've seen 13 in total. One left! Any ideas on what we could get?
Also in terms of rares we have seen 35- only 12 left!! :)
July 6, 2016 9:41 a.m.
The last Mythic, by rights, should be a Legendary U/W Spirit.
I'm still holding out for one of the rares to be a certain couple. They fit the number crunch (and I'm thinking they're Selesnya colors since one hasn't been spoiled yet).
July 6, 2016 9:44 a.m.
Ravenous,
Assault Formation
+
Permeating Mass
doesn't work on Creatures with "prevent damage" effects either, like Guard Gomazoa, Gideon, Battle-Forged
Flip (0), or Gideon, Ally of Zendikar (+1).
July 6, 2016 9:50 a.m. Edited.
I'm hoping one of the Blue rares is a super awesome Mono U Zombie. We've got a few from SoI, but none of them are really playable (yet...maybe)
July 6, 2016 9:53 a.m.
Yeah, I'm feeling Saint Traft himself in sone form for the last mythic... at least thats what im hoping for
July 6, 2016 10:04 a.m.
Hi_diddly_ho_neighbor says... #30
I think the last mythic will be red or colorless. Right now (including the multi-colored mythics and colorless mythics with emerge costs) White has 3, Blue has 3, Black has 4, Red has 2, Colorless has 2, and Green has 5.
Also a pretty sweet devil to pair with TITI:
6RR
Chaos Reveler
Creature - Devil Horror
Chaos Reveler costs 1 mana less to cast for each instant or sorcery in your graveyard
Prowess
When Chaos Reveler enters the battlefield, discard your hand, then draw three cards
3/4
July 6, 2016 10:31 a.m.
PistonGolem says... #31
I would hate it if it was colorless... WotC you give more love to every color but red. The only thing red gets is a sorcery-speed Lightning Strike.
July 6, 2016 10:34 a.m.
Creature - Devil Horror
Chaos Reveler costs 
mana less to cast for each instant or sorcery card in your graveyard.
Prowess (Whenever you cast a noncreature spell, this creature gets +1/+1 until end of turn.)
When Chaos Reveler enters the battlefield, discard your hand, then draw three cards.
July 6, 2016 10:37 a.m.
PistonGolem well, tbf, it's not like your only good card in Standard at the moment is Jace, Vryn's Prodigy Flip... :P
July 6, 2016 10:37 a.m.
Hi_diddly_ho_neighbor says... #35
Oops forgot to include Brisela, so that puts colorless up to 3. I definitely expect it to be red now
July 6, 2016 10:40 a.m.
ducttapedeckbox says... #36
Chaos Reveler is good. Like really good. RR (later in the game) for a 3/4 with prowess and acts as an Ancestral Recall in a lot of decks that want it? Yes please.
Also a Horror. Great in a deck with TITI
July 6, 2016 10:41 a.m.
beakedbard says... #37
That Devil has potential in an Izzet prowess shell i mean there's already Stormchaser Mage and Curious Homunculus as well as Thing in the Ice Flip (which doesn't bounce the devil) as well as quite a few decent R/U spells. Hopefully I'll be able to play my favorite color combination again.
July 6, 2016 10:42 a.m.
SCREW YOU WIZARDS!!! Check MTG story today for final mythic
And I like that devil.
July 6, 2016 10:45 a.m. Edited.
Slip Through Space, Expedite and Rush of Adrenaline are best buddies for the Devil.
Because the actual state of Burn is disastrous.
July 6, 2016 10:48 a.m.
CanadianShinobi says... #40
To round out a disappointing set we get a disappointing mythic. Well, I read the card wrong the first time. It's actually a board wipe. But still...
July 6, 2016 10:53 a.m. Edited.
Hi_diddly_ho_neighbor says... #41
Yep I was right:
2R
Nahiri's Wrath (mythic)
Sorcery
As an additional cost to cast Nahiri's Wrath discard X cards
Nahiri's Wrath deals damage equal to the total converted mana cost of the discarded cards to each of up to X target creatures and/or planeswalkers
July 6, 2016 10:55 a.m.
Today, in All About My Creatures, even counters are Creatures now:
Spell Queller 
Creature-Spirit 2/3
Flash
Flying
When it enters the battlefield, exile target spell with CMC 4 or less
When it leaves the battlefield, the target owner may cast it w/o paying
July 6, 2016 10:57 a.m.
I for one embrace our wizard overlords that are finally trying to do away with burn and RDW. To me those decks are the worst thing in magic and I am happy that they are not very good right now.
July 6, 2016 10:59 a.m.
DemonDragonJ says... #44
TMBRLZ, as a player of Dungeons & Dragons, I find it very odd that a devil has the word "chaos" in its name, since devils in that game are lawful evil; it is demons who are chaotic evil in that game.
CanadianShinobi, the fact that Nahiri's wrath cannot target players is a huge drawback. If it could do that, then it would actually be a decent card, but since it cannot, I hope that I do not draw one at the prerelease.
July 6, 2016 11:02 a.m.
Hi_diddly_ho_neighbor says... #45
I think if Nahiri's Wrath could target players though it would be format warping (at least for standard). With all of the high cmc eldrazi currently in standard it would not be too difficult to pull of T3-T4 wins.
July 6, 2016 11:06 a.m.
EmblemMan RDW and Burn are easy-to-build decks, without being 100% sure wins.
In other words, fun decks for beginners. They deserve some love.
July 6, 2016 11:08 a.m.
With Spell Queller's printing, I might wait until Kaladesh to comes out to play Standard #deathtoCoCo.
But I do really like Queller. Exile a Supreme Verdict, then, when your opponent gets ahead, kill this and wipe the board. OR you can exile your own spells in response to a counter, then sac it (after the ETB resolves and the stack clears) to play your spell again. OR Sac this in response to its ETB to permanently exile an opponents spell. Gets around "Can't be countered" abilities, searchable by CoCo etc.
Control finally got some love... Kind of.
July 6, 2016 11:14 a.m.
Alright, I'm warming up to Nahiri's wrath. I want to run it in Chandra but the flavor feels off...
Hmmm...
Zaueski says... #1
So Rattlechains is a card in standard... swinging into a field with them having a single green mana is so much more devastating lol. Not to mention Permeating Mass would fit amazingly in a Bant deck led by Tamiyo, Field Researcher...
July 5, 2016 7:20 p.m.