Fate Reforged theories
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Posted on Oct. 20, 2014, 10:54 p.m. by CapnMooMoo
Tarkir and Alara join togther, so Fate Reforged is a shard set.
Noble Hierarch reprint hype?
Thoughts?
i believe they said that its going to be a mono colored set
October 20, 2014 11:19 p.m.
CrazyLittleGuy says... #4
Also, I don't think Exalted would exist as a mechanic in the same Standard as Prowess. That creates too many headaches, what with the sheer amount of triggers, layering, etc. I don't think Wizards likes that kind of gameplay in Standard. That's just how I view it though, I've been wrong before.
October 20, 2014 11:33 p.m.
It's almost definitely a mono-colored set...really hoping for a colorless Ugin too
October 20, 2014 11:50 p.m.
All I know its been said that KtK is a multicolor set, but the block as a whole will not be. I think Fate Reforged will have some multicolor elements to play well with KtK, but that will be downplayed in favor of more monocolor stuff.
October 21, 2014 12:37 a.m.
How does layering come into play with Exalted/Prowess? "Creature becomes X/X" effects?
October 21, 2014 1:41 a.m.
NO, what they said is KTK as a set would be wedge focused, the block as a whole was not. They never said the other sets in the block wouldn't be multicolored or that they would be mono-color focused. That's all just pure speculation.
October 21, 2014 3:25 a.m.
We know that this isn't a predominantly multicolour block. Wizards may have meant that the remaining two sets are purely monocolour, they may have meant that one set is mainly monocolour and another is purely monocolour, or they may have meant that the two sets are mainly, but not wholly, monocolour. All of those situations would fulfill the criteria of not being a multicolour block. Wizards are being massive trolls at the moment and giving misleading statements (like for example when they said that fetchlands wouldn't be reprinted until at least 2015 in reference to the Zen fetches and then reprinted the Ons ones in this set - sneaky) and therefore its hard to know what they really mean. However it is fairly clear that the next set wont be as heavy on multicolours as this one was.
October 21, 2014 3:26 a.m.
CapnMooMoo says... #11
Sorry, if I wasn't clear, that was purely my speculation, and I have no idea what WotC has said and how much of it applies to Fate Reforged.
So, do we know if the ZEN fetches will be in this set?
October 21, 2014 7:21 a.m.
TheRedDude says... #12
wee dont, and would they really have the full cycle in std all at once?
October 21, 2014 7:25 a.m.
CapnMooMoo says... #13
It'd be cool :D
That's why I was hoping Fate Reforged was a shard set, because that might be able to make all 10 fetches in one standard more reasonable.
October 21, 2014 7:29 a.m.
mowservision says... #14
Easy. Khans of Tarkir is the wedge, Fate Reforged is colorless/monocolored, and Dragons of Tarkir will be the shard.
October 21, 2014 7:32 a.m.
mowservision says... #15
I don't remember where I've seen it, but that's the plan for the block.
October 21, 2014 7:33 a.m.
MagicalHacker says... #16
Someone asked a question about why each wedge is focused on an off-color, and the official response was that there was a reason, but we can't know yet.
In light of this information, I believe the most likely arrangement of themes for this block is wedge-mono-wedge, with the first wedges being focused on an off color and the second wedge focused on the middle color.
This also makes sense from a lore perspective. I predict that we will be going back in time to reforge the fates of the clans and the dragons, and then when we come to the present, the clans will be focused on the right color.
With respect for the likelihood of Zen fetches in the third block, they would need to print them if the set were to have value, unless they print a cycle of cards that would change modern.
Personally, with the wedge-mono-wedge mentality, I'm hoping for zen fetches in the third set, but something even better in the second set: mono fetches at uncommon rarity.
October 21, 2014 7:51 a.m.
Servo_Token says... #17
Remember too that the 2nd and 3rd sets of this block are going to be stand-alone in a year with the new rotation schedule, so they need to fill their own role as a 2 set block and be able to work completely separated from khans.
This means that the next two sets should be similar in theme, regardless of if they're mono colored, wedged, or whathaveyou.
October 21, 2014 8:16 a.m.
Wedge --> Colourless --> Shard. This would explain the draft structure. The middle set is a pivot which can be drafted with either set as colourless will make it easier on people's mana bases. Not sure if this is true, but it seems plausible.
October 21, 2014 8:17 a.m.
@ThatBlueMage... you got that wrong. Khans of Tarkir and Fate Reforged will cycle out together when the new format takes place. The third set in the Khans block and M16 will be the first 2 set cycle, and then all the sets after M16 will be 2 set blocks.
October 21, 2014 9:43 a.m.
the3rdH0kage says... #20
I'm thinking that Khans is a Wedge set with the focus of each wedge being one of the allied colors, Fate Reforged will be a Mono-Colored set with some multicolored elements to tie in with Khans. Then Louie (or has Dragons of Tarkir been confirmed as the name) will be another wedge set with the focus color being the enemy color, making ZEN fetches viable to be printed in Standard, But I may be completely wrong, which would be fine. That's just how I've been thinking it'll happen.
October 21, 2014 10:47 a.m.
MagicalHacker says... #21
KingSorin, I don't think shards for the last set is possible (see paragraph one from my previous post), but I think a totally colorless set would be super awesome. I'm now hoping the fate reforged is literally all colorless haha
October 21, 2014 12:43 p.m.
AngryBearTony says... #22
@MagicalHacker I've been leaning that way myself, re: wedge - mono (colourless) - wedge. But we have so little information about Louie it's hard to even speculate, other than thinking we may see a new Nicol Bolas and possibly Ugin.
October 21, 2014 2:01 p.m.
TheRedDude says... #23
well, if it was wedge mono wedge that would not explain the "unique draft strucure"
October 21, 2014 3:23 p.m.
CapnMooMoo says... #24
I completely forgot how the Khan cards are off-wedge MagicalHacker, but now that you've reminded me, I believe your theory is the most likely.
Thanks for all the discusion, my favorite part of new Magic sets is speculation!
October 21, 2014 7:45 p.m.
CapnMooMoo says... #25
That also explains the draft structure, as the "broken wedges" will be replaced with the "fixed" wedges.
October 21, 2014 7:46 p.m.
CapnMooMoo says... #27
Wedge with the wrong main color focus - mono colored - wedge with the correct enemy color focus
October 21, 2014 8:16 p.m.
TheRedDude says... #28
so a different playstyle for each wedge than in KTK?
October 21, 2014 8:19 p.m.
lothshteth says... #29
The only way WoTC can reforge my faith in them is to make the third set enemy-wedge focused. It would be utterly ridiculous if they didn't and left it as is. You can definitely bank on the fix.
October 21, 2014 9:19 p.m.
manofperson says... #31
I think that it's very unlikely to have another completely multicolored-focused set. The third set probably won't have any of the wedges, because this is thousands of years in the past where the clans haven't been formed yet... or should I say 'forged'?
October 22, 2014 1:41 p.m.
TheRedDude says... #32
no, the third set is in the present probs, but after te time travel occurs
October 22, 2014 3:33 p.m.
I love how no one actually has any real idea about what's going to happen over the next two sets but yet people have no problem saying "no, it's going to be like this instead". It's hilarious how many people are certain they know what's going to happen when all of their information is based off speculation made by other people. HAHAHAHA
October 22, 2014 4:27 p.m.
So do you guys reckon that Whip-Spine Drake will be appearing either in Fate Reforged or Louie?
If dragons are reappearing or we go back back in time to a point when there were dragons on Tarkir it seems somewhat likely with it being a drake, having morph and being reasonably named.
October 23, 2014 5:46 a.m.
That wouldn't even make sense. Future sight was all about the future (hence the name) and it's why it included the "futureshifted" cards which were cards that contained new mechanics and creature types that could possibly be expanded on in future sets. If the story line in this block is about Sarkhan traveling back in time then it's basically a given that Fate Reforged will be nothing like future sight.
October 23, 2014 10:13 a.m.
MagicalHacker says... #39
Because they wanted to try to make morph cards that people like outside of limited/standard. Think of it as them trying to go back to old mechanic and do it again in a fun way.
October 23, 2014 12:26 p.m.
TheRedDude says... #40
i meant like some of the cards would give litttle hints, nothing like a huge thing
October 23, 2014 3:30 p.m.
swimmininja says... #41
Color-base wise, I don't think that it will be a tricolor set (whether wedge or shard). Personally, I think it will be duel color (since Theros was monocolor) and that there will br a colorless planeswalker.
October 24, 2014 10:57 a.m.
FatherLiir says... #42
This is what I am thinking, Khans is a Wedge set and I will forver love WoTC for that.
Fate Reforged is going to be a mono color set.
"Huey" is going to be a colorless set.
October 25, 2014 11:28 a.m.
TheRedDude says... #43
OMG you all are soooooo wrong everyone knows itll be colorless (this is an impersonation of someone not actually what i think)
October 25, 2014 12:14 p.m.
Named_Tawyny says... #45
@Moertin, I don't think they'll reprint Whip-Spine Drake as R&D has said that they don't want Morph creatures to eat other Morph creatures at less than 4-mana (5? I can't remmeber) to flip.
October 25, 2014 8:31 p.m.
I think we might see some aspects of Zendikar reprinted because that's where Ugin came from, I would really love Fate Reforged to be a colorless set with some more Eldrazi that Ugin is against.
CrazyLittleGuy says... #2
Where's the confirmation that Fate Reforged is a shard set? I think I missed it.
October 20, 2014 11:14 p.m.