Flavorwise, what do you want to see in Fate Reforged?
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Posted on Nov. 21, 2014, 9:10 a.m. by FatherLiir
From PAX Aus we already know two cards we will be getting, an Ugin and/or Bolas Planeswalker card will be coming eventually, but storywise or Flavor wise what do you WANT to happen in Fate Reforged?
Personally, given the Abzan's relation to Tree's and how they have entire aspect of culture built around ancestor worship and trees, I would LOVE to see new Treefolk from which the belief that tree's are sacred spawned from. Like the Abzan ancestors were forest dwellers long ago and held at bay through the strength of their Ent-like kin and their own cunning they perservered against the Dragons but the battle between Ugin and Bolas turned their lush forests into a barren desert.
On a much lesser scale, I would also like a couple new minotaur(s) who were the precursors to the Mardu Horde but again wiped out by Dragons and slash or Bolas/Ugin struggle.
What do you guys wanna see?
Hickorysbane says... #3
Definitely more Minotaurs, something to push them to be just a little more competitive. Or if not then more just because I like those angry cowmen.
November 21, 2014 9:28 a.m.
CommanderOfBolas says... #4
Why minotaurs? Zurgo Helmsmasher is an orc. there are also humans that would make sense as well. Anyway, I would like to get a new Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker. I don't want just another reprint. Id also like to see an Ugin walker, and I hope they kill off sarkhan. That dude needs to die
November 21, 2014 9:43 a.m.
We're going back in time, correct? I would love to see something that involves Karn or a referance to Urza. Its not that I dont love the new walkers like Jace and Garruk, I just want to see something referancing them because of the time travel. Even just some tiny flavor text. Also, because of time travel, maybe some mechanic like suspend will show up? This could get crazy, it really could, but I concistantly have to remind myself are still on Tarkir. Then I get sad, because I wasnt around for Karn or the O-So-Godly Urza.
November 21, 2014 9:56 a.m.
Also, I want to see something done with the Temur. Their ties to the elements on Tarkir has got to mean more than it currently does. I predict the rise or the Temur.
November 21, 2014 9:57 a.m.
APPLE01DOJ says... #7
Dragon or even a mono black dragon.... hopefully either are good enough to be playable.
November 21, 2014 10:27 a.m.
Ohthenoises says... #8
Tbh I would really love to see the cycle of Wedge dragons return. Vorosh, the Hunter, Teneb, the Harvester, Oros, the Avenger, and friends.
The format is slow enough that those bombs could really be put to good use.
November 21, 2014 10:37 a.m.
I definitely want to see a full set of 10 tri-colored legendary dragons
we need more wedge legendary creatures for sure
November 21, 2014 11:23 a.m.
I also agree with the Temur statement. I'd like to see them get a little better.
November 21, 2014 12:12 p.m.
Nigeltastic says... #12
I'd like to see the sultai attain their rightful place as the dominant clan, so fate reforged should only contain 
November 21, 2014 12:19 p.m.
I want a BR plane walker that doesn't suck/ is actually playable unlike a previous printing of a certain central khans walker cough cough Sarkhan the Mad cough cough maybe nicol bolas before he gets the U? Time travel, wisdom with age huh huh? Younger bolas less U?
November 21, 2014 1:07 p.m.
Ohthenoises that would be sick but i can't imagine standard with Numot, the Devastator that would be my worst nightmare of magic. I don't want jeskai to have land destruction too hahaha
November 21, 2014 1:11 p.m.
dan8080 I didn't know that I wanted this till now. If that happened, Pearl Lake Ancient would be gone in a heartbeat.
November 21, 2014 2:15 p.m.
I could see a different wedge sets worth of dragons... the problem with these dragons is they wouldn't fit since their abilities were centered in the mutual enemy color where a numot colored dragon for khans block would have to have a Blue centered ability not red.
November 21, 2014 2:39 p.m.
@dan8080 For Bolas to not have any blue they would have to go WAY WAY far back in time. I mean, Bolas had blue in Legends. I don't think it would fit well with him flavor-wise at all.
November 21, 2014 5:17 p.m.
shinobigarth says... #19
Bolas has to be the 3 colors he is, because no other dragon is that UBeR! its probably not out of the realm of possibility for only a few cards, namely walkers to come out in Alara wedges, which makes me think maybe there would be another Sarkhan in the last set and he could be Jund colors.
November 21, 2014 5:29 p.m.
@dan8080 I do agree BR is in desperate need of a good walker. Heck, I'd even settle for decent.
November 21, 2014 5:33 p.m.
I'd like to see some more goblin tribal support, maybe a legendary goblin in the Tumer colors.
November 21, 2014 6:17 p.m.
forestlore44 says... #22
A burn spell similar to Stoke the Flames but with Delve. That would be awesome...
November 21, 2014 6:20 p.m.
shinobigarth says... #23
Delve is UBG's mechanic so a burn spell with that is very unlikely
November 21, 2014 6:31 p.m.
jandrobard says... #24
Truckloads of legendary creatures! Maybe even some really good ones for standard...
November 21, 2014 11:23 p.m.
I think it would be awesome to see Ugin fight Nicol Bolas and they each get some clans on their side, with their flavor of dragons helping them. Also each clan should get their own Planeswalker. Temur makes monsters Sultai reanimates Abzan makes their army stronger Jeskai get a burn and counter walker, and Mardu makes tokens for each creature you control sorta like a general leads army type thing.
November 23, 2014 6:11 p.m.
Mardu Walker: -3 loyalty:Put X 1/1 Orc warrior creature tokens onto the battlefield where X is the number of creatures that have attacked this turn.
November 23, 2014 6:24 p.m.
CommanderOfBolas says... #28
@MTGbrewer: you realize that the clans worked together to KILL the dragons, right? They wouldn't fight for dragons or with them. Furthermore, I think the idea of walkers for each clan would be nice, but highly unrealistic. The only one likely to get a walker is Jeskai because of Narset, Enlightened Master. It has been hinted that she will ascend. Also, Mardu technically has a walker. Sarkhan was a member of the Mardu clan. And lastly, counter burn for a Jeskai walker seems unrealistic. Countering a spell with a walker seems logistically difficult, and way too strong. And burn is way too Red for a 3 color walker
November 23, 2014 8:07 p.m.
FatherLiir says... #29
@CommanderOfBolas Where has it been hinted at that Narset has a latent spark?
November 23, 2014 9:08 p.m.
CommanderOfBolas sorry i am not very familiar of the lore i just thought it would be cool if they got their own flavor of planswalkers and dragons.
November 23, 2014 9:48 p.m.
CommanderOfBolas says... #31
@FatherLiir: Give me a few minutes to find the source, but it was in an "uncharted realms" article published by wizards
November 23, 2014 9:56 p.m.
CommanderOfBolas says... #32
Im pretty sure it is this one. I had a discussion going about it a few weeks ago.
November 23, 2014 10 p.m.
CommanderOfBolas says... #33
It is basically all but said that she planeswalks in the last sentence. "I'm not sleeping, but I dream. The worlds from my youth rush toward me." This is after explaining in the beginning that she dreamt of other words as a young child
November 23, 2014 10:19 p.m.
I want to see a clan trying to find a creature more powerful then the dragons to fight for them. It will be like how Kiora came to Theros to find krackens big enough to fight the Eldrazi. I think a kracken vs dragon fight would be the coolest thing ever.
November 24, 2014 1:25 a.m.
shinobigarth says... #35
Narset could easily ascend. i don't think its a coincidence that Maro mentioned that Jeskai is his favorite clan...
November 24, 2014 2:58 a.m.
ShiroiBara says... #36
I expect Narset to ignite her spark. She will be Fate's Reforged Planeswalker and we will get Ugin and Bolas in DTK.
I also expect the acien leader of the Abzan's to have abilities like these
W/B Creatures you control gain lifelink until the end of turn.
and
B/G Regenerate target creature.
The first ability will most likely need colorless mana.
November 24, 2014 11:42 a.m.
CommanderOfBolas says... #37
I don't think Ugin and Bolas will be in Dragons of Tarkir. Sarkhan is traveling back in time to the moment where Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker and Ugin are fighting (see Crux of Fate). We might get a Narset walker with them. I have speculated in the past that she is the one to decode Ugin's runes (the ones mentioned in the article I linked) and to find out how to travel back in time with Sarkhan. Also, I think your abilities are a bit too powerful. it would probably be 
to regenerate. 1 mana to regenerate any creature seems busted
November 24, 2014 11:54 a.m.
FatherLiir says... #38
Ehh... Deathless Angel makes almost anything indestructible for WW
November 24, 2014 12:38 p.m.
A Narset planeswalker is plausible, but wouldn't it make a lot more sense in the third set? The altered history keeps the Jeskai rigidity from stifling her spark.
November 24, 2014 12:41 p.m.
FatherLiir says... #40
@jr92_2000 Yes and no. What we know is Sarkhan and Sorrin are gonna travel back in time to save Ugin, we don't know whose all going with them. So maybe Narset tags along and the time travel ignites her spark or maybe its them going back in time destroys the present apart and THAT ignites her spark.
Either way, what I want is this
Narset, Master of Time and Space
+1 Draw two cards then discard one card
-3 You may tap or untap up to 4 target permanents
-8 You get an Emblem with "At the beginning of your upkeep, you opponents loose life equal to the number of cards in your hand"
November 24, 2014 12:52 p.m.
ShiroiBara says... #42
CommanderOfBolas Yeah, I should have told it was to mean the color and usage of mana hybrid, not the real cost... For Ugin and Nicol Bolas, it's that I expect that both of them will be released at the same time and it's unlikely in Fate Reforged.
November 24, 2014 1:01 p.m.
FatherLiir says... #44
Well wouldn't it make more sense for them to be released here and then the last walker will be in Dragons of Tarkir? FR is where the fight between the two of them will happen and then the effects of changing history will be seen in DOK, who at this point is believed to be Narset but all of that is speculation at this point.
Of course that's all we're doing right now. And we like it.
November 25, 2014 2:31 p.m.
cavman5512 says... #45
I also would love to see a rebirth of the classic goblin deck I mean I have a moder goblin deck and I just want to see them brought back lol
November 26, 2014 12:30 p.m.
SevynnthDimension says... #46
If you guys don't mind I'm gonna bring my speculation to the table.
In the art for FRF we have Sarkhan and his fire wirling around him as well as Ugin. He will be in the set no doubt, I mean the card art for him is the standard size/shape for a walker. Now as for Nicol, this guy will most likely show up as well given that him and Ugin duke it out. However I don't think they'll reprint the old one, they just can't. And last to finish off my Nicol predictions, I feel like he will have for sure but I'm not sure about , maybe 
.
Another thing is the dragons. Yes I have been waiting for a dragon set in my magic-playing time. It's almost a given that there will be dragons for the wedges. In the spoiler art for DTK there's a dragon that resembles the Mardu and it's fighting along side the Mardu horde. Now I believe that there will be dragon's for each clan that represent that clan's aspect in KTK; Example: The Mardu dragon has 4 wings, the symbol for the Mardu is a pair of wings. Perhaps the dragons will be what the clans worshiped? Their deities even. Now I know there's already a "Dragonclaw" spoiled for FRF therefore they still have khans. But! again I am going back to the DTK spoiler art and seeing the Mardu fighting with their dragon deity.
Just my 2 cents.
November 26, 2014 1:07 p.m.
CommanderOfBolas says... #47
Nicol Bolas will definitely have all of his colors. There is no way to have him without all his mana sources. Other walker occasionally tap into other mana (like Ajani, Mentor of Heroes has green even though Ajani Goldmane is a white walker), but walkers don't drop primary colors.
November 26, 2014 1:29 p.m.
SevynnthDimension where are you seeing the mardu dragon?!?!
lemmingllama says... #2
Dragons! We have been promised a dragon set, and so far every dragon set has left us disappointed. I want to see a huge pile of playable dragons that are super cool.
Also more Rhinos. Then tribal rhinos could be a thing!
November 21, 2014 9:12 a.m.