Iconic Masters Announced
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Posted on April 20, 2017, 12:16 p.m. by _Delta_
Number of Cards: 249
Release Date: November 17, 2017
MSRP: $9.99 *Applies to U.S. Only
"Iconic Masters offers players a tour through some of the most powerful cards in over 23 years of Magic history. Featuring new artwork on many cards, the set brings an array of massive Angels, Sphinxes, Demons, Dragons, and Hydras alongside some of our favorite and most memorable spells."
Discuss.
0ffensiveWombat says... #3
Let's be honest, we're getting new artwork for Shivan Dragon
April 20, 2017 12:31 p.m.
MindAblaze says... #4
November of this year for release. Seems cool. I don't know how excited I can be for Iconics. The limited environment is going to have to support them somehow, and be interesting. Ramp will have to be an archetype I assume.
April 20, 2017 12:33 p.m.
A card I would be interested in seeing a reprint though anyways is Sliver Legion, not entirely sure if that would happen but it is my hope.
April 20, 2017 12:39 p.m.
Avacyn, Angel of Hope perhaps? If we are talking iconic angels, I can't see any other legendary angel more iconic than Avacyn (except maybe Akroma). Serra Angel is pretty likely too.
April 20, 2017 12:48 p.m.
Wizards, may you please reprint non-foils of the following Elder Dragons with new art, please?
Oh, and please reprint Our Lord and Savior Nicol Bolas with the art from FTV: Dragons. Thanks.
April 20, 2017 12:55 p.m.
Well at 9.99 a pack, what are the heavy hitters going to be?
April 20, 2017 2:25 p.m.
So, it's basically a mix between FTV sets and Eternal Masters. There will be much jank. Equally, there may actually be some valuable cards. When you say "iconic planeswalker", I say "big daddy Jace (the good one)". When you say "iconic land", I say Dark Depths, Strip Mine, and ABUR duals (RL obviously, but is Strip Mine on the list?). Admittedly, this doesn't illustrate my point well, until you start considering the creatures too.
I'm cautiously optimistic.
April 20, 2017 4:23 p.m.
Hardhitta7 says... #11
I mean.... it doesn't get much more iconic than Tibalt.
April 20, 2017 4:38 p.m.
Tibaltbestcardinthegameconfirmed.
Seriously though; I want those (Original) Elder Dragons reprinted.
April 20, 2017 4:44 p.m. Edited.
Iconic Dragons: Elder Dragons, Shivan Dragon, Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker
Iconic Angels: Avacyn, Angel of Hope, Serra Angel, Akroma, Angel of Wrath, Iona, Shield of Emeria
Iconic Sphinxes: Consecrated Sphinx. I don't really remember any others. Alhammeret maybe?
Iconic Demons: Griselbrand, Rakdos, Lord of Riots Ob Nixilis???
Iconic Hydras:Polukranos, World Eater, Primordial Hydra, Progenitus, Kalonian Hydra
I can think of more iconic spells, like Lightning Bolt, Path to Exile/Swords to Plowshares, and Counterspell, than creatures
April 20, 2017 5:23 p.m.
golffore297 says... #14
It's interesting to me that no one is excited at how Wizards is going to be spoiling the set: with an old fashioned prerelease at HasCon. Back in the early days of magic there was no spoiler season and so at prerelease players would go in not knowing what any of the cards in the set are, which is exactly what WoTC is going to do the second weekend of September.
I think this would be a lot of fun to be a part of and might even take time to go up to the event myself considering it will be two months before the full release of the set.
April 20, 2017 5:31 p.m.
golffore297: I wish they did that with every set, even though I love spoilers.
April 20, 2017 7:44 p.m.
When they say "Iconic", will they go back on their policy on not reprinting the Power 9? And if they do, is there any card that will be out of bounds for reprinting? This is the question...will the Power 9 and the ABUR lands get a reprint? That is what everyone else is thinking, are they not?
April 20, 2017 7:46 p.m.
Also Ceondoc for demon there might be Lord of the Pit too, as to what else might be in this besides what you said I'm not too sure at the moment.
April 20, 2017 7:48 p.m.
DrLitebur: If Eternal Masters was any indication, we will not see any card from the Reserved List in here.
Delta-117: Don't forget Grinning Demon, after Wizards stopped printing demons for a time.
April 20, 2017 8:04 p.m.
MindAblaze says... #20
"Iconic" is the term Wizards uses for each colours main large creature.
: Angels
: Sphinxes
: Demons
: Dragons
: Hydras
April 20, 2017 8:14 p.m.
Shame, because Djinns were a big part of Magic's early days. Case in Point: Erhnam Djinn, Mahamoti Djinn.
April 20, 2017 8:25 p.m.
DemonDragonJ says... #22
I am somewhat excited about this set, but not as excited as I was about Eternal Masters (and I was very excited about that set), because this set does not seem to be the same type of set as the other. Iconic cards are often, but not always, powerful and popular cards, so this set may not have quite as many valuable cards as did Eternal Masters, but I still am excited about it, since I hope to see some older cards reprinted in the new border style.
Some specific cards that I would like to see are Absorb, Backlash, Essence Vortex, Fire Covenant, Fungal Shambler, and Dromar, the Banisher, since none of those cards have ever been reprinted, at all, let alone in the new card frame.
April 20, 2017 9:35 p.m.
aeonstoremyliver says... #24
As one who's an Old Fogey and has been playing since circa 1994, this sounds really cool! But, I really hope they reprint some really solid value cards, especially given the $10 per pack MSRP.
April 20, 2017 9:51 p.m.
00xtremeninja says... #25
this is a gutsy move with not spoiling any of the cards and letting it develop on its own as players open packs. At $10 per grab bag essentially, there better be some solid value, but could see a lot of meh stuff. But Wizards has been doing better lately with EMA and MM2017
April 20, 2017 11:33 p.m.
KingMathoro says... #26
I for one am really excited for the set as I feel Wizards will be reprinting some cards that we haven't seen for a while since they are doing the most iconic and their favorites throughout Magic history, and from the recent sets like MM17 and EMA I have no doubt Wizards knows what they are doing.
April 21, 2017 10:50 a.m.
Listen guys... The last string of non-standard releases have been fucking outstanding. Conspiracy 2, EMA, Commander 2016, MM3? All fantastic, loaded with reprints, fun cards, great draft environments, etc. We'll get stinkers, for sure, but I have massive faith in non-standard releases atm.
April 21, 2017 10:57 a.m.
GeminiSpartanX says... #28
I agree that non-standard sets over the last year have been really great. However I'm still cautious with this theme in relation to the price point of these packs considering that many of the iconic cards in magic history have already been reprinted into the ground. Shivan Dragon, Lord of the Pit and friends really don't jump out as something that I'll spend $10 a pack for. I'm sure there will be some value reprints, but it will be tough to top the awesomeness that was MM17. I'll be buying packs/cards from that set until all of the LGS's in my area are sold out. I'm not saying it can't happen, but unless they reverse the reserve list I can't imagine too many cards they'll include that I'll want (although having 2 sets in the same year that include both goyf and LotV would be awesome!).
April 21, 2017 11:20 a.m.
Yeah, but if you throw in Allstars and have a solid base of playable uncommons, you'll do well.
April 21, 2017 1:27 p.m.
Serendipitous_Hummingbird says... #30
If the commons/uncommons are packed with Lightning Bolts, Swords to Plowshares, Ponders, Inquisition of Kozilek, Chainer's Edict, Oubliette, Counterspell, and other fun stuff I'd still get few even if the mythics were all storm crows and grizzly bears.
Sure, it's fun to open a $10 pack with 14 chaff and one $20 card, but I'd much rather open a $10 pack with 15 $1 cards.
Plus, life becomes a lot easier if Chainer's Edict and Battle Screech finally get paper printings at common.
April 21, 2017 2:06 p.m.
Obviously this is not happening, but...
What if wizards is purposefully releasing the set old school (not doing spoilers) because it's full of reserve list cards and they just want to say a big eff you to the whole list all at once
April 21, 2017 6:54 p.m.
golffore297 says... #32
WoTC has officially announced on Twitter there will be no reserved list cards being reprinted.
Damn.
April 21, 2017 10:22 p.m.
Hardhitta7 says... #34
Tell me I'm not the only one who watched Rudy's video. Lmao
April 21, 2017 10:34 p.m.
I'm hoping for Phyrexian Tower. It's not reserved, commands a heavy price tag, and brings up the iconic Phyrexians. Please Wizards! We need it, (since I can just trade for it when I'm there)
April 22, 2017 12:11 a.m.
When I first heard of the Iconic Masters set... My first thought was that this would be synonymous with Jank Masters. Ie NONE of the cards would be worthwhile, just a bunch of random as cards with little to no financial value.
And then. What if we got none reserved list cards like Phyrexian Altar, Phyrexian Tower etc. got reprinted?
...But I'm not getting my hopes up, so I'll stick with calling this Jank Masters for now.
Pretty sure Akroma, Angel of Wrath and Lord of the Pit will be in there as the most iconic angel and demon.
Tarmogoyf will most likely be in the set, because he's super iconic, and would be great to push him ddown further.
I imagine the Lorwyn 5 will be reprinted too (seeing as how they are the iconic planeswalkers)
The Elder Dragons will probably get a reprint, if they do, it'll be with new art, exc Nicol Bolas.
And then maybe yet another reprint of the pit fighters (ie: Rorix Bladewing, Arcanis the Omnipotent etc).
April 22, 2017 4:49 a.m.
Is Lotus Petal on the RL? I assume not, as it was a Masterpiece. It's the closest thing we have to Black Lotus, so maybe a reprint?
If we talkin mana rocks, Powerstone, Dynamo, Mind Stone, Signets, Gilded Lotus, and (god forbid- RIP limited play) Sol Ring are possible.
There are other iconic cards great in limited. Mind Twist and Jitte are known as the best of their kind, pretty much. Maybe SoF&I.
It would actually be sweet if we got an Ancestral Vision reprint though. Is it really $70?
None of those are creatures, in case you've noticed. I'm sure Wizards will find a way.
April 22, 2017 4:34 p.m.
tlhunter07 says... #38
April 22, 2017 5:42 p.m.
When I hear iconic cards I think of format defining things.Maybe Stasis, Necropotence, Cadaverous Bloom, Memory Jar,Fires of Yavimaya, Force of Will and blah blah blah. But that just sounds like Vintage Masters on MTGO
April 22, 2017 7:48 p.m.
@DarkLaw, I would argue Gilded Lotus is the 2nd most powerful and iconic plant........
April 23, 2017 8:57 p.m.
ibstudent2200 says... #42
"Iconic" actually has a specific meaning in Wizards R&D. Iconic creature types are the types that represent the high end of each color. They tend to appear at rare or mythic in almost every set, as long as the world supports that creature type. Angels and dragons have been the iconic creature types for White and Red (respectively) for a fairly long time. Black has had demons (though there's a bit of a history), though vampires occasionally show up in this area. Green eventually settled on hydras (it was Beast for a while). R&D had a lot of problems with Blue, but they're currently using sphinx as the Blue iconic creature type.
April 24, 2017 12:17 a.m.
Dredge4life says... #43
Yes, all of those Iconic sphinx's, like Consecrated Sphinx, and... the other ones?
Also, is the plural of sphinx sphinx's or sphinx? Sphinxi? Sphinxopi? Sphinxomon?
April 24, 2017 8:28 a.m.
So they can't reprint the reserved list... but what's stopping them from doing something like the Zendikar Treasures?
http://mtg.gamepedia.com/Zendikar/Priceless_Treasures
Sorry I can't get the link to work...
April 24, 2017 8:11 p.m.
Dredge4life sphinxes, I would think. Apostrophes are not used in pluralization of words.
April 25, 2017 1:17 a.m.
MerciMerci says... #47
I probably won't buy it unless it has some expensive Commander staples in it, like Demonic Tutor.
April 25, 2017 10:01 a.m.
I need to get my eyes checked again.
I opened the site, and saw this thread out of the corner of my eye at the bottom of the screen.
And then I read it as Idiotic Masters and wondered what had happened to change the name of the thread. Then I looked again, and it was back to normal.
So, given that the cards look to be top-heavy given the discussion I see, what do you all suppose will fill in the commons and uncommons?
April 25, 2017 4 p.m.
That's exactly what I was thinking, if there were to be dragons there would likely have to be that card.
Probably will see those two cards, likely also Lightning Bolt if it wasn't in mm2017, and this is just my hope but I would like to see a reprint of the tron lands but I'm not sure if that will happen. I guess being a newer player to the game (Started at around Born of the Gods/ Journey into Nyx) I never have appreciated some of the older art to some cards, while Urza's Tower(The forest art mainly) is relatively fine I just can't quite seem to like Urza's Mine or Urza's Power Plant as much.
If not for that hope I would love to see some slivers printed in the set.
smackjack says... #2
so Eternal Masters with another name?
April 20, 2017 12:31 p.m.