Journey into Nyx Way Better Than Previous Sets?
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Posted on April 20, 2014, 9:24 a.m. by DarkHero
It just seems like they are reprinting quality cards and making mock ups of EDH staples that do largely the same thing, like Dictate of Erebos to Grave Pact , Mana Confluence to City of Brass . Along with some original cards that seem vastly more powerful out of the box than those of recent memory. I'm looking at you Prophetic Flamespeaker , Ajani, Mentor of Heroes , Hydra Broodmaster . Even Felhide Petrifier gives all the benefits zombies got from Death Baron to Minotaur on a tougher body with a simpler CMC. One of the best tribal cards printed as of late. AND it's an uncommon! Even Nyx Weaver looks like it will slide right into a self mill reanimation build like a match made in heaven. I guess all I'm saying is this set just seems to have a lot more quality meat with less filler to it than previous sets, going back to Innistrad and possibly even beyond that. I get all my spoils from http://mythicspoiler.com/
Link wasn't working so here you go...
This isn't really a spoiler necessarily. Maybe should go in general section. I like this set and see a fair number of playable cards in there but not necessarily for standard. Athreos is going to shake things up, in my opinion.
April 20, 2014 9:48 a.m.
I guarantee you see tons of stuff from this set seeing a lot of play in almost all formats.
April 20, 2014 9:48 a.m.
APPLE01DOJ says... #5
My comment pertained more to me and my personal taste. I play Golgari (next to no love) and Modern (no love)
April 20, 2014 9:57 a.m.
And ChiefBell the set isn't out yet, so it's all still technically spoilers. I do always get a little to gitty about new sets, maybe it's just my inner EDH talking. But I see a lot of standard potential. At least more so than the average set. I personally have stacks on stacks of useless filler cards I got from boosters packs in the past few sets that I will never use, and I feel like with this set, that might not happen as much.
April 20, 2014 9:57 a.m.
APPLE01DOJ - Definitely. Golgari has been shafted with arguably the weakest god. Although the set as the whole hasn't focused so much on guild mechanics so its arguably forgivable.
April 20, 2014 10:13 a.m.
Well, considering we just came off of one of my least favorite sets that I've had the pleasure (or displeasure) of playing with, JOU is looking pretty nice. BNG was pretty awful if you ask me. I still think I like Theros better though.
April 20, 2014 10:45 a.m.
CommanderOfBolas says... #10
I love this set. Lots of playables, great flavor, and sure to shake up the meta! great EDH cards here, too. Dictate of Erebos will go great in my Thraximundar deck!
April 20, 2014 10:58 a.m.
APPLE01DOJ says... #11
The whole Theros block has been awful.
I think the recent rise in modern was because of that fact alone. People want to play multicolor decks with decent mana base. RTR had a lot of appeal to potential modern players. Theros only has salty & bitter flavor that appeals to those with bad taste. (IMbiasedO)
April 20, 2014 12:28 p.m.
@APPLE01DOJ: I don't agree with that. If your just talking about how much you personally like the block, then that's just opinion. But if your talking about the play ability of the block, then I completely disagree. As far as how much I liked the block, I really liked Theros, hated BNG, and I like JOU so far.
April 20, 2014 12:31 p.m.
RTR and Innistrad were still both better blocks. but I think Theros the set (not the block) is on par with those sets.
April 20, 2014 12:33 p.m.
CommanderOfBolas says... #14
buffy: Theros is definitely not on par with RtR or Innistrad. RtR and Innistrad had way more value as far as playability. Thoughtseize and Stormbreath Dragon are the only good things to come from the set as far as modern goes. even still, Thundermaw Hellkite is often better than stormbreath. I do really like Journey Into Nyx, but that is only because of how bad BNG was. I really hope Wizards starts pushing multicolor strategies again
April 20, 2014 1:45 p.m.
CommanderOfBolas says... #16
ChiefBell: but it is still a reprint which lowered the price of thoughtseize for modern players, so I still stand by my statement
April 20, 2014 1:51 p.m.
Theros block has been terrible (my opinion). But Journey into Nyx is helping to fix it. A lot of its cards seem more playable than its predecessor's, especially for casual, which I'm trying to get back into.
April 20, 2014 4:38 p.m.
@CommanderOfBolas: When I said that I meant more of how much I liked theros, not how playable it was :).
But running with your argument, look at all the top decks in standard right now. Most of them were invented by the Theros block (devotion) and all the decks have a good amount of Theros block cards. I do agree that RtR gave us more material to play with, but I don't think you can say that it was WAY better.
April 20, 2014 5:36 p.m.
And I play basically all standard and nothing else, so I don't know the impact or lack there of that there is in modern.
April 20, 2014 5:36 p.m.
Guys, someone said they had not seen the full set for Nyx... MTG released it... you can see it at: http://www.wizards.com/magic/tcg/article.aspx?x=mtg/tcg/journeyintonyx/cig
Take a look. Also, if I read this right, we are not doing tribals at prerelease, but the "Hero's Path", and if I am reading that right, that seems to be forcing the player to choose a primary and splash: http://www.wizards.com/magic/magazine/article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/arcana/1468
Everywhere I look, everyone says White. But, Red and Green are looking good too. Dang, they all are depending on how you want to play. After release is over, and the cards have hit the tables, I think they we can really get a read on this block.
Frankly, I agree with all of you about this block. Can't wait to see if they fix things in the 2015 block.
April 20, 2014 6:33 p.m.
Guys, you all say that the Theros block was terrible but really, its no that bad.
Gods- so interesting! You cant say you don't like the gods, the whole mechanic is so cool and they are really good.
Control- Standard control just got better. We now have a planeswalker who is a win con within herself (Elspeth, Sun's Champion ). We also have Dissolve and Bile Blight which can deal with lots of early threats. There is also Hero's Downfall which is amazing.
Modern Assist- Scry lands may not be nearly the best, but it helps mana fixing. Also, the reprint of Thoughtseize has helped people who want to get into modern but think it's too expensive.
JOU- I haven't seen all the spoilers but of the one's I did see, they are pretty awesome!
Chromanticore - I mean, come on guys! You can't say that this set it bad with Chromanticore in standard. Think about it: Chromantichanics, The Future of Standard- Chromantitactics, some pretty good Chromanticore decks have been made!
Is it the best, NO. But is it terrible, NO. Is it good, YES!
April 20, 2014 9:13 p.m.
CommanderOfBolas says... #24
in all fairness, I did specify that rtr and innistrad were better for modern. with only 2 blocks legal at any one time in standard, it makes sense that the current decks are mostly theros block cards. Im not saying that the block is bad per say, but it is way less powerful than the previous few sets.
April 21, 2014 12:48 a.m.
I don't play standard, but my understanding was that most cards in top standard were RTR block cards. I dunno though.
Despite your argument, TheGamer, I would still say that Theros block has been pretty terrible. Every card that you named except Thoughtseize and Bile Blight have no viability in other formats. And when a card is only good for standard, it's basically not good for anything, as it rotates a year or less later. That's my opinion, anyway.
April 21, 2014 7:02 p.m.
Alright, alright, I understand codebread. My main format is standard and so that's probably why I think the way I did.
April 21, 2014 7:06 p.m.
Theros has been a failure of a block. I'm so happy it's finally going to be over soon.
It's flavor is stupid, only 2 or 3 cards are even close to playable in modern, and the standard impact has been far from interesting. Even the duels suck.
The core sets were more impressive than theros.
I'm also mad that ajani is 5 mana, not 4.
April 22, 2014 10:25 a.m.
BlastercoolWeird says... #28
I really loved Theros and while Born of the Gods wasn't as powerful there's way more in that set I care about for standard.
I cannot see a single mono-red card I'm actually gonna play in standard outside of Prophetic Flamespeaker
Sure Journey did a lot of remixes on some classic old cards but 90% of them don't actually seem standard playable to me.
Dragon's Maze was an abominable cacophony of mechanics and bad cards but at least it gave me something interesting to build with Nivix Cyclops
APPLE01DOJ says... #2
I like a lot of the cards but was hoping for more playable stuff.
April 20, 2014 9:35 a.m.