Kaladesh Spoiler Thread

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Posted on Aug. 26, 2016, 6:16 p.m. by DarkLaw

Kaladesh release date: September 30th (2016).

Three-letter code: KLD

Number of cards: 264

Prerelease: September 24-25, 2016

Further information and official card list.

Zaueski says... #1

DarkLaw. First, don't hear what I'm not saying. I'm not saying that its an auto 4-of in every affinity deck.

But there are pros to including 1 or 2 Smuggler's Copter. First off, it scales with your Steel Overseer and Master of Etherium. Second, it doesn't have to connect to the player to cycle a card away. It just has to attack or block. Further more, turning a Memnite into a 3/3 Flier with card cycling is good.

Like I said at the beginning, its not an auto 4-of. However it is definitely another toy that affinity can use and card draw, even in cycling form, is always a good thing.

September 13, 2016 1:04 p.m.

iBleedPunk says... #2

Zaueski I just want it to be in Bant colors with an ETB so I can put it in Roon EDH. I'm not really a Standard player but I have kept up with Bant CoCo dominating standard lately. At least when KLD rolls in CoCo rotates out

September 13, 2016 1:07 p.m.

shinobigarth says... #3

Dovin seems kind of meh.

September 13, 2016 1:08 p.m.

Ohthenoises says... #4

DarkLaw it allows Memnite able to attack and lets Inkmoth Nexus contribute to normal damage. Also, it digs for the haymakers that affinity needs to close out games, I dont need that 3rd Springleaf Drum as much as I need to dig for Cranial Plating.

September 13, 2016 1:28 p.m.

Wabbbit says... #5

Well, here's your last legendary.

September 13, 2016 1:31 p.m.

Zaueski says... #6

Whirler Virtuoso

Creature

Etb get 3

Pay 3 get a 1/1 Thopter.

2/3


This is the kind of pay off card that makes energy worth investigating to me. Interested to see what we do with it.

September 13, 2016 1:42 p.m.

Phaetion says... #7

I feel like there's 2 cycles of legendaries going on here: Mono-color and enemy color.

, , , and look like they'll be in Aether Revolt.

September 13, 2016 1:45 p.m.

supagrex says... #8

September 13, 2016 1:53 p.m.

Araganor says... #9

RW artificer aggro might end up being a thing...huh

September 13, 2016 2:21 p.m.

HairyManBack says... #10

Good spoiler cards for today! Not a 9 or 10 on the power level but usable for new Standard. Fun, too, by the looks of them. Not sure about that Carrier artifact dude. Seems like a gimmick. Idk, I'm sure some aggro deck will like it.

Rabid_Wombat - yeah, I made the comment knowing new players will crack them open in packs. But purchasing strait up you'll be taxed. But I play online competitively and kitchen table casually. :D

September 13, 2016 2:54 p.m.

tettsui77 says... #11

I'm pretty stoked on Inventor's Apprentice + Bomat Courier (cards not up on here yet)

September 13, 2016 3:27 p.m.

tettsui77 says... #12

or Apprentice + Thraben Inspector in R/W

September 13, 2016 3:28 p.m.

iBleedPunk says... #13

Zaueski how did you make the energy symbol?

September 13, 2016 3:45 p.m.

DarkLaw says... #14

Ohthenoises Zaueski I'm not exactly an affinity pro, but Memnite is pretty much the only card that combos well with Copter, and I've seen it frequently as a 2-of. Every other card is one you don't want to turn into a Copter in almost all situations. Even with more, there's just better ways to win. The only time it could be used effectively is to break incredibly specific board stalls, and pretty much only if you draw Memnite.

September 13, 2016 3:51 p.m.

[ [symbol:energy] ] = .

September 13, 2016 4:05 p.m.

Ohthenoises says... #16

I've been playing affinity on and off for about 4 years.

The nexi are also good fodder for Crew, I mentioned that before.

The nexi are only needing to swing with Pest/master for numbers sake and half the time you just animate them to add to Plating/Ravager kills.

Also, inkmoth specifically can cause issues sometimes. Yes, the infect kill can happen but 9 times out of 10 you need that 1-2 extra points of normal damage to finish the game. Getting them down to 3-4 and then having your only creature (due to removal/blocks/etc) be inkmoth is really bad cause it feels like you have to start all over again. In that case, paying (effectively) to animate copter for normal damage is insanely worth.

Yes that can be corner case but if you are playing against a smart opponent it tends to happen more and more.

September 13, 2016 4:08 p.m.

supagrex says... #17

Chandra

September 13, 2016 5:26 p.m.

supagrex says... #18

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September 13, 2016 5:26 p.m.

supagrex says... #19

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September 13, 2016 5:27 p.m.

supagrex says... #20

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September 13, 2016 5:28 p.m.

Chandrian says... #21

I was wondering about this Crew mechanic... if I have a creature with vigilance and a vehicle in play (let's say Aerial Responder and Ovalchase Dragster), can I during the declare attackers step declare Aerial Responder to be attacking and then tap him to crew the Ovalchase Dragster so that I attack with both?

September 13, 2016 5:41 p.m.

Ohthenoises says... #22

No, all attackers must be declared at the same time

September 13, 2016 5:45 p.m.

pumpkinwavy says... #23

Chandrain No. I'm pretty sure about that.

September 13, 2016 5:47 p.m.

pumpkinwavy says... #24

ninja'd

September 13, 2016 5:47 p.m.

ADX95 says... #25

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September 13, 2016 6:42 p.m.

Bellock86 says... #26

ADX95 ~ hey bud. Your links derped. Just a heads up

September 13, 2016 6:56 p.m.

ADX95 says... #27

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September 13, 2016 7:15 p.m.

AwezomePozzum says... #28

Skywhaling. Yay.

PETA is gonna be on the consulate's asses for this.

Anyway, at least Skywhaler's Shot seems viable in limited. Idk about the other two tho.

Don't we still have one last planeswalker being spoiled? (Tezzeret?)

September 13, 2016 7:32 p.m.

AwezomePozzum says... #29

That energy whale tho.

September 13, 2016 7:33 p.m.

AgentGreen says... #30

AwezomePozzum

Dovin Baan was spoiled; previous page

The question: Now that it's confirmed Ajani is on Kaledesh; and is saving Chandra's ass, is he the white PW the next set?

September 13, 2016 7:35 p.m.

lonker says... #31

Sooooo excited for the Kaladesh Inventions. I'm still freaking out about that Mana Vault reprint.

September 13, 2016 7:50 p.m.

Araganor says... #32

AwezomePozzum All of them are pure gas in limited.

Also holy shit that's a flying whale. Immediately made me think of this.

Too bad it's a 4/3 and not a 4/2

September 13, 2016 8:12 p.m.

Ledian says... #33

Araganor haha that's great, how did you find that?

Also we got space whales in mtg now, who would have guessed?

September 13, 2016 8:31 p.m.

Phaetion says... #34

Just watch that you don't get...whale-d on in Limited. ::p

September 13, 2016 8:42 p.m.

Araganor says... #35

Ledian

Assuming you're not being sarcastic (it's hard to tell on the internet), it's a passage from the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. If you like quirky British humor it's a great read, one of my personal favorites.

September 13, 2016 8:50 p.m.

Ledian says... #36

Ah ok thanks. I'll have to read it sometime!

September 13, 2016 8:54 p.m.

AwezomePozzum says... #37

AgentGreen: Upon further research, turns out that the spoiled tezzeret art IS for Aether Revolt. And since Ajani is likely going to be in Aether Revolt, I think we're done for planeswalkers in this set.

September 13, 2016 8:59 p.m.

OP_Magikarp says... #38

Really liking how solid the removal is for white in limited. Too bad there's not a ton of tempo blue cards. I just want tempo fliers in limited again

September 13, 2016 9:22 p.m.

HairyManBack says... #39

Right now I'm looking hard at energy at this point 9/13 spoilers. An ability I'm shocked wasn't crapped earlier in magic's evolution. Kinda reminds me of Wizards Pokemon mechanics in some way.

In any event I'm looking at Harnessed Lightning and especially Aether Hub. But for some reason I'm getting the vibes around the net people are unaware of Hub's potential power level.

September 13, 2016 9:32 p.m.

pumpkinwavy says... #40

OP_Magikarp Didn't we just have tempo fliers in Eldritch Moon limited?

September 13, 2016 9:33 p.m.

Araganor says... #41

I think RW is gonna be the go to color combo in limited from what I've seen so far. What do you guys think?

September 13, 2016 9:37 p.m. Edited.

Wabbbit says... #42

September 13, 2016 11:17 p.m.

Phaetion says... #43

cough Darksteel Forge cough

September 13, 2016 11:18 p.m.

Ledian says... #44

I like it.

September 13, 2016 11:35 p.m.

HairyManBack says... #45

fun card. btw, where r u guys getting these recent spoilers. I've been updated by mythicspoiler.com

September 13, 2016 11:39 p.m. Edited.

_person_ says... #46

So... Affinity?

September 13, 2016 11:43 p.m.

saj0219 says... #47

Doubt it. It needs noncreature artifacts and affinity is generally pretty full of creature artifacts... I think.

September 13, 2016 11:49 p.m.

Phaetion says... #48

So, is there any chance that the planeswalkers from the PW decks will come with a non-foil version? I want the PW Nissa, but I hate foils.

September 13, 2016 11:51 p.m.

Wabbbit says... #49

@HairyManBack: I've been using mythicspoiler as well.

September 13, 2016 11:54 p.m.

ShishkyBob says... #50

Vehicles don't count as creatures, right? I can see some good synergy there with the metalwork colossus.

September 14, 2016 12:02 a.m.

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