King Macar
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Posted on Nov. 25, 2014, 9:59 p.m. by vance3
I'm not sure this is the correct part of the forum but...I assume King Macar, the Gold-Cursed ability to exile target creature allows you to exile your creature or your opponents creature, correct? If that's in fact how the card plays, how come nobody has used it to combo with a card like Jeskai Ascendancy? There's your mana source with the bonus of tearing down the opponents defense so when you draw your monster(s) you'll be able to end the game quickly as long as nothing gets countered (but you can defend against counters too). Obviously there are many different cards to combo with Jeskai Ascendancy but this seems overlooked, what am I not understanding here? King Macar costs too much?
MattTheNinja says... #3
Both that King costs 4 mana and you'd have to run a 4-color deck (R/W/U/B) for it to work.
November 25, 2014 10:23 p.m.
I can't see how the combo works, am I just blind? If you use King Macar, the Gold-Cursed's ability to exile your opponent's creature, that doesn't count as casting a non-creature spell so it won't trigger Jeskai Ascendancy. Even then, how would you tap it so that Jeskai Ascendancy would untap it and trigger heroic?
November 25, 2014 10:33 p.m.
CapnMooMoo says... #6
November 25, 2014 10:45 p.m.
CapnMooMoo says... #7
Oh wait sorry, Altar of the Brood is still the card you play.
But you can run out of targets...
November 25, 2014 10:46 p.m.
VampireArmy says... #8
why is this in spoilers? If anything it would go into what ever format you wanted to discuss using this combo in. Just for future reference
November 25, 2014 11:29 p.m.
shinobigarth says... #9
the King is a fine source of removal by himself, chances are they won't be playing enough creatures to warrant the need to base a deck around the combo and running 4 colors.
November 26, 2014 12:51 a.m.
Souljacker says... #10
Yeah the thing is, if you get to combo off, why would you want an infinite effect of exiling creatures when you can have effects that win you the game? Your end game with Macar is a board wipe, if you just use Altar of the Brood you have milled your opponent, or just a creature that can get through that's buffed infinately by the Ascendancy. Macar is redundant in Ascendancy Combo.
Plus, as said it slows the combo by being 4 CMC and the double black is a pain in a 4 color deck without the mana fixing of Caryatid.
November 26, 2014 3:26 a.m.
JexInfinite says... #11
Slow combos are generally pretty bad, as they take a long time to assemble, and even when they are, it takes a very long time to get going. Wasting a turn in any format is a huge mistake and should never be done.
November 26, 2014 8:55 a.m.
that would be 4 colors committed to a "combo" that doesn't even win you the game.
November 26, 2014 10:46 a.m.
jpgcoleman says... #13
Um this isn't a combo. How do you tap King Macar? Untap effects don't trigger untapped creatures. If however you did have a tap source (and noncreatures spells a plenty) it would win you the game as you would remove all of the opponents creatures and all of your creatures get +1+1 for each non-creature spell cast mean at least the king would get huge. So basically this does not fit in the current combo deck because you would also need to dedicate another card slot to tapping King Macar.
CapnMooMoo says... #2
That's all well and good, but you would have to drop the King Macar, the Gold-Cursed before you can combo off, meaning you wouldn't be able to go off until turn 5, whereas with the current one you can go off on turn 4. Or am I wrong? If what I said isn't the case, this seems perfectly viable. It might also be the double black mana cost. I don't know.
November 25, 2014 10:07 p.m.