kurkesh, Onakke ancient

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Posted on July 2, 2014, 12:11 a.m. by CuteSnail

http://mythicspoiler.com/m15/cards/kurkeshonakkeancient.html

Seems a little good...especially with the Chain Veil...

GoldGhost012 says... #2

It's a more conditional but more useful Strionic Resonator . Wow.

July 2, 2014 12:18 a.m.

Aelenium says... #3

Heh. Him and Grindclock ...

July 2, 2014 12:21 a.m.

GoldGhost012 says... #4

Meh.

July 2, 2014 12:24 a.m.

U/R mill? I think I might try it.

July 2, 2014 12:27 a.m.

GoldGhost012 says... #6

I think Red has better things to do than mill.

July 2, 2014 12:29 a.m.

Well of course, but why not?

This may not be too powerful with The Chain Veil either if you can only reuse an ability once each turn.

July 2, 2014 12:32 a.m.

Rasta_Viking29 says... #8

Eh, not my cup of tea.

July 2, 2014 12:34 a.m.

jonhydude says... #9

Part of the U/R artifact deck coming up in m15.

July 2, 2014 1:23 a.m.

brokendwarf says... #10

Well, I like it.

July 2, 2014 2:14 a.m.

Schuesseled says... #11

Cool commander.

July 2, 2014 4:51 a.m.

beakedbard says... #12

Aye I'm going to try and make him into a commander seems very fun and different to most other artifact decks.

July 2, 2014 6:35 a.m.

Groovy ability. Would love to see his butt as a 4, though.

July 2, 2014 8:04 a.m.

Rayenous says... #14

Time Vault = unlimited turns.

Probably a bit slow for Vintage play though...

July 2, 2014 8:10 a.m.

NUCLE4R says... #15

Not being able to use mana abilities on artifacts really brings the down the value and its overall usefulness. Unless the new set (khans) brings in some artifacts that tap or trigger in combat phase; something to allow him to have more playability in a artifact themed deck. But for now all he does is kinda sit their as a thought in maybe a grixis mill with Grindclock . If anyone sees something im missing, call it out I am interested in how I could get him to work in standard

July 3, 2014 5:08 p.m.

Named_Tawyny says... #16

How do you figure, Nucle4r? The vast majority of Artifact abilities aren't mana abilities (although it would be awesome if you could double a Black Lotus I suppose). It pretty much lets you take your artifact effect and double it. Two hasty creatures with Whip of Erebos ? Yes please.

July 3, 2014 7:13 p.m.

NUCLE4R says... #17

Those are mana abilities (except for black lotus) you are paying mana to start the process of the whip, which kurkesh doesn't allow in his own ability.

July 3, 2014 9:20 p.m.

NUCLE4R says... #18

Unless the tap effect nullifies the mana part of the equation than this would be better than I had originally thought.

July 3, 2014 9:22 p.m.

Named_Tawyny says... #19

You're misunderstanding the term 'mana abilities' Mana abilities aren't abilities that cost mana - they're abilities that PRODUCE mana.

Sol Ring (or Black Lotus ) are examples of artifacts whose activated abilities are mana abilities (and thus not applicable to Kurkesh's ability.). Whip of Erebos , Strionic Resonator , or Perilous Vault (not that I could imagine the point of copying that last one) are all artifacts that COST mana to use their abilities, but they aren't 'mana abilities'. Kurkesh could double any of them.

July 3, 2014 9:38 p.m.

NUCLE4R a mana ability is like the one on Fire Diamond .

Not an ability that requires mana to activate.

July 3, 2014 9:40 p.m.

NUCLE4R says... #21

Thank you for that. Still a bit new to the terms in magic.

July 3, 2014 11:12 p.m.

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