Life's Legacy

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Posted on June 26, 2014, 8:54 p.m. by Spootyone

Sooo...this just happened..

Green is beginning to look very strong. I feel that with the rotation of Garruk, mono green or green with minor splash really needed something to draw cards and...well, here it is.

It's not instant speed which is worth noting, but it does mean you can turn one threat into a full hand or more -- and that is SUPER appealing to me.

It also seems out of green's flavor in a way, since you have to sac a creature. I'm so excited. Thoughts?

Violinist says... #2

I don't really play green, much less mono-green. If I do, I usually play Golgari. M15 just might convert me.

June 26, 2014 9:04 p.m.

kmcree says... #3

It doesn't feel green at all. Feels much more black. It would definitely fit nicely in a G/B deck that runs graveyard shenanigans.

June 26, 2014 9:13 p.m.

Servo_Token says... #4

Seems ok. Mono Green devotion pumping out tokens with Hydra Broodmaster , then draw a bunch of cards by sac'ing the original hydra? Yeah, i'd probably do that.

Outside of big shells like that though, I really only see it being a decent engine in a Rock style build, sort of like the role Disciple of Bolas played a while ago.

June 26, 2014 9:19 p.m.

Schuesseled says... #5

You can monstrous Hydra Broodmaster make a bunch of baby hydras, sac him to draw 6 cards. gg.

June 26, 2014 9:20 p.m.

Schuesseled says... #6

ninja's are everywhere.

June 26, 2014 9:20 p.m.

McSleuthburger says... #7

what do you guys think?

+

= <3

June 26, 2014 9:24 p.m.

Spootyone says... #8

That's sort of the thought process I was having.

Here's another example I thought of that would be more applicable to me:

It's the middle of the game and things on board are looking pretty close. Let's say my opponent has a polukranos and a courser or something of the sort and I have a couple mana dorks and a fleecemane lion (maybe even my own polukranos). In this situation, I would GLADLY trade my lion for 3 cards or trade my polukranos post-mostrous and post combat for a full hand. And with Ajani, Mentor of Heroes , things can get even more nice. You could put some counters on a Sylvan Caryatid and by the time it's not needed anymore, just turn it into a full hand.

June 26, 2014 9:24 p.m.

Spootyone says... #9

McSleuthburger: That's actually quite interesting. Not sure if it's worth playing over some other 6-drop, but the shenanigans are verrry interesting.

June 26, 2014 9:26 p.m.

cr14mson says... #10

June 26, 2014 9:32 p.m.

JakeHarlow says... #11

With this, Courser of Kruphix and Eidolon of Blossoms , green is looking to have lot of card advantage this season.

June 26, 2014 9:34 p.m.

JWiley129 says... #12

For people who think this isn't Green let me direct you to Greater Good and Momentous Fall .

June 26, 2014 10:32 p.m.

Spootyone says... #13

JWiley129: That's true, actually. It's not too unprecedented. Rare, though. This is the cheapest version of that effect we've gotten so far and that's awesome.

June 26, 2014 10:35 p.m.

trentfaris242 says... #14

The synergy with Nissa is incredible. In mono green ramp, turn a land into a 4/4 creature, sack it, draw 4 cards.

June 26, 2014 11:04 p.m.

TexasDice says... #15

"Thanks for the two-for-one, green player." - Everyone ever

June 27, 2014 1:14 a.m.

Spootyone says... #16

Ooooo I didn't even think about that one yet. That sounds really, really amazing. I can't wait to play green post-rotation.

June 27, 2014 1:15 a.m.

JWiley129 says... #17

TexasDice - What 2-for-1? You have to sac the creature as part of the cost, you won't have a chance to kill it in response.

June 28, 2014 4:37 p.m.

TexasDice says... #18

Yeah, I got that memo a few days ago. My bad.

But I still think it's a bad card. Yes, one player can draw a lot of cards by sacrificing a monstrous 7/7 Polukranos or a Worldspine Wurm.

Or, you could just use said creatures to just win the game. If you're playing a deck with big monsters, your job is to reduce your opponents lifetotal to zero, not to hug and kiss them.

Momentous Fall is good, because it's an instant and gains you life. Greater Good is even better than that and is one of the best repeatable (free) sac outlets in magic.

Drawing anything less than three cards with this card isn't worthwhile and I can't of a single three power creature I would feed to that card.

So unless pacifism effects will become a main staple, this card will find a home only in my junk box.

June 28, 2014 5:17 p.m.

trentfaris242 says... #19

Who said the monster had to be big? Nissa turns LANDS into 4 draws. This card is amazing.

June 28, 2014 5:22 p.m.

TexasDice says... #20

4 Damage is a fifth of your opponents lifetotal. Just attack, instead of setting your board back a turn.

June 28, 2014 5:24 p.m.

JWiley129 says... #21

TexasDice - think about the deck that wants Life's Legacy , card draw might not be high on its priority list. I'm thinking about this in a mono-green shell with Nissa, and if you sac a huge creature like a Polukranos, World Eater or a Hydra Broodmaster you're likely drawing into more threats. Now that doesn't mean you HAVE to sac a dude, but if you're in a board stall and need to draw into a specific answer, then this gives you the opportunity to do so. It's not an automatic 4-of, but it's a way to give decent card advantage to a mono-green deck.

As a side note, I wouldn't feel too bad just cycling the card by sacing an Elvish Mystic or some other 1 power creature if I needed a new card.

June 28, 2014 5:29 p.m.

TexasDice says... #22

I feel like Garruk, Caller of Beasts (atleast for this summer) and Courser of Kruphix provide more than enough draw for mono green midrange decks. Then there's Eidolon of Blossoms , also worthwhile slots on its own.

Decks using other colors have even better options, like Chandra, Ajani or Read the Bones, but nobody denied that.

Interestingly, said creatures you listed are better off using their abilities to break boardstalling, as would a card like Setessan Tactics .

Sacrificing an elvish mystic also isn't even cycling, it's disadvantage. I don't wanna be that guy, but I think the card isn't good and won't see play in constructed, aside from fringe one-offs.

June 28, 2014 5:47 p.m.

JWiley129 says... #23

TexasDice - You're not wrong that Garruk, Caller of Beasts and Courser of Kruphix provide more card advantage for mono-green, but I'm thinking post rotation when we don't have Garruk, Caller of Beasts to rely on. Eidolon of Blossoms seems fine, but looking at the new torpor griff I think that will take a lot of steam out of Constellation decks, so I'd rather not rely on the Eidolon for card draw.

Like I said, Life's legacy really only fits in a mono-green shell and even then I'd cycle it by getting rid of an Elvish Mystic . My reasoning is that Elvish Mystic is only really good in the early game, and quite bad in the late game. So getting rid of it for a different card could be what you'd need to do sometimes. Also with sacing Polukranos, World Eater there is the problem of what if you have multiples and/or if you need to monstrous it again, so there's that to consider. And instead of legend ruling myself, I'll just sac my one on board for more cards and then play my second one. Just a thought.

June 28, 2014 5:56 p.m.

TexasDice says... #24

Hmm... That thing about the legendary rule is a good point.

Still, I'd favor something like Commune with Nature in Tarkir, splashing into other colors or a splash into another color, rather than playing that card. It seems a bit too "win-more" for me.

June 28, 2014 6:02 p.m.

TexasDice says... #25

Ups, my brain damage kicked in again. Kick that "or .." out of the sentence.

June 28, 2014 6:05 p.m.

JWiley129 says... #26

TexasDice - That's fair, this card isn't the best thing since sliced bread. But I think it'll see some play, idk if it'll be Tier 1 or anything.

June 28, 2014 6:07 p.m.

Quadsimotto says... #27

I really do like this card.. When paired with a creature like Phytotitan you are not really setting your board state back a turn and in the case of the soon to be rotated Worldspine Wurm your still not really hurting yourself to badly and filling your hand at the same time.Swing, sac, fill hand and drop three fat assed blockers. I like it ans see it as a huge new asset for MONO in the format.

June 28, 2014 6:43 p.m.

Hypersonic Dragon + Life's Legacy + any creature to sac + Chasm Skulker

Faster Than a Speeding Dragon

June 28, 2014 7:45 p.m.

Schuesseled says... #29

Drawing 14 cards off of your monstroused hydra is a great thing. Atm mono green probably doesn't need it, G/x certainly doesn't need it, but it's a nice card all the same.

June 29, 2014 8:45 a.m.

deleted above mentioned deck , was really clunky LOL

this seems to work much better Quicken + Life's Legacy turns you Life's Legacy into an instant for a toal of 1bg and get an extra card to boot on top of sac

June 30, 2014 7:15 p.m.

zigmover says... #31

Life's Legacy + Scuttling Doom Engine get blown out sir.

July 18, 2014 2:03 a.m.

zigmover says... #32

Also once you play Life's Legacy , the player can respond to the card being cast on the stack. They can't respond once you sacrificed the creature. Had that explained to me today when I played it and my opponent wanted to Hero's Downfall the creature in response to me sacrificing it.

July 18, 2014 2:05 a.m.

Ruric says... #33

hey how about Life's Legacy + Harness by Force steal a creature from my opponent, attack with it, then sac it to get rid of it and even get card draw? yes please!

July 18, 2014 12:31 p.m.

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