M16 Announced! It's called Magic: Origins
Spoilers, Rumors, and Speculation forum
Posted on Feb. 8, 2015, 1:10 p.m. by slovakattack
Interesting, eh?
slovakattack says... #4
It was announced at the FRF pro tour. Not much to see, just the set and the expansion symbol.
Gideon, Jace, Liliana, Chandra, Jace and Nissa's origin's stories will be tackled in this set.
Looks like Wizards is standardizing the Lore, in order to produce a more cohesive storyline in future sets.
February 8, 2015 1:13 p.m.
CanadianShinobi says... #6
slovakattack multiple Jaces? My god... That explains everything!
February 8, 2015 1:15 p.m.
golffore297 says... #7
Important Notes:
Gideon over Ajani.
We will be learning of Jace's Homeworld.
This one will have more new cards than normal.
Might be seeing Planeswalkers as Legendary creatures?
February 8, 2015 1:16 p.m.
Could be a best of set? Just given then name and a general theme of reminiscing.
February 8, 2015 1:16 p.m.
fluffybunnypants says... #9
Seems like an attempt at hard storytelling. They're saying that there are going to be more new cards than any other core set. Two brand new mechanics, blah, blah, blah. I would like to know if we're going to see some older cards.
Also, did anyone else hear Rich Hagan audibly get a boner while looking at the second piece of Liliana artwork?
February 8, 2015 1:17 p.m.
CommanderOfBolas says... #10
lol. anyway, it sounds like they are depicting those characters "pre-spark," which could mean legendary creature versions of them.
February 8, 2015 1:17 p.m.
InnerFlame says... #11
Will they print a creature jace and a planeswalker jace?...How about that Liliana art.
February 8, 2015 1:17 p.m.
slovakattack says... #12
CanadianShinobi: M17 will be called Jace: Attack of the clones.
February 8, 2015 1:18 p.m.
slovakattack says... #13
fluffybunnypants: I almost died laughing.
First picture comes up:
"Oh, wow that's very nice. Who's the artist?"
Second picture comes up:
audible, heavy breathing and silence for 30 seconds
February 8, 2015 1:19 p.m.
lemmingllama says... #14
New mechanics in the core set as well, and they are apparently linked to the planeswalker's spark igniting. Maybe legendary creatures that let you sacrifice and tutor for the planeswalkers?
February 8, 2015 1:21 p.m.
If it's ever posted to YouTube, someone let me know. My Internet is too slow to load Twitch.
February 8, 2015 1:24 p.m.
InnerFlame says... #17
Going way out on a limb here...legendary creatures that morph into planeswalkers?
February 8, 2015 1:25 p.m.
slovakattack says... #18
lemmingllama: I was thinking that, but I hope it isn't the case. That's such a boring mechanic, and would never see play in any eternally constructed deck, due to how awkward it'd be.
February 8, 2015 1:26 p.m.
Seems we can put to rest the hope of a Liliana of the Veil reprint.
February 8, 2015 1:26 p.m.
fluffybunnypants says... #20
I really just would have liked something more original for Lili's story. I mean, come on. healer who turns into a necromancer? Come on now.
February 8, 2015 1:26 p.m.
Does anyone have an actual place to find these, I have tried looking and found nothing?
February 8, 2015 1:27 p.m.
Blind_Guardian says... #22
I'll look forward to this set. Hopefully it will not be that core-set influenced.
February 8, 2015 1:27 p.m.
Hopefully a good white planeswalker that sees modern play.
February 8, 2015 1:28 p.m.
February 8, 2015 1:29 p.m.
Apart form like Elspeth, Knight-Errant who's often quoted to be among the most powerful walkers ever printed.
February 8, 2015 1:30 p.m.
just lookit those Liliana's..! don't even need to see the whole set!
February 8, 2015 1:30 p.m.
UmbrotheUmbreon says... #28
@fluffybunnypants: I don't know, that's pretty original to me. I don't think I've once heard of a healer going to necromancy before.
February 8, 2015 1:31 p.m.
Drusilla being turned by Spike in Buffy the Vampire slayer almost certainly inspired that.
February 8, 2015 1:33 p.m.
The classic fall from grace to evil is pretty overdone.
February 8, 2015 1:34 p.m.
gnarlicide says... #33
I can see a healer turning to necromancy. I mean, maybe she loses someone she cares for and couldnt do anything and seels her sould to griselbrand to bring them back to life, then gets corrupted.
darth vader style
February 8, 2015 1:34 p.m.
golffore297 says... #35
I'll team up with that Invisible_Stalker, what if they were Double-Faced Cards that transform once a condition is met? That would make a lot of sense.
February 8, 2015 1:36 p.m.
fluffybunnypants says... #36
ChiefBell says...
"The classic fall from grace to evil is pretty overdone."
This. No matter how you slice it, it's been done so many goddamn times that it's going to take a spectacular twist to make me go "oh, well, that's actually kind of cool."
February 8, 2015 1:36 p.m.
I pressed the Sticky button. I don't know what it does but I thought it would be appropriate. Epochalyptik?
February 8, 2015 1:37 p.m.
I am pretty psyched, overdone tropes aside. I've been dying for a more detailed look at these Planeswalkers' pasts.
February 8, 2015 1:42 p.m.
UmbrotheUmbreon says... #39
Maybe I am just a guy who likes cliche stuff then.
February 8, 2015 1:46 p.m.
julianjmoss says... #41
Note that this was on a live stream on twitch and since it is still live, has not been archived yet. you should be able to find it at a later time. This set is meant as a transition between our current rotation and the new one and is focused on storytelling. As its name says, the set has to do with the origins of the planeswalkers (Nissa, Gideon, Liliana, Jace, Chandra, no garruk). There will be two new mechanics in the set and they said there will be plenty of new cards, in fact more than usual. You will find out more at PAX (east?) later in march
February 8, 2015 1:51 p.m.
Quick_Silver says... #42
Totes excited, but... I thought there weren't gonna be any more core sets? Changing the name doesn't make this not a core set.
February 8, 2015 1:53 p.m.
slovakattack says... #44
Quick_Silver: This was supposed to be the last one.
February 8, 2015 1:54 p.m.
VampireArmy says... #45
what do you want from them?
From what I remember, Lili's brother died and she wanted him to bring him back so she ended up making a deal with the four demons for the power to do that (I don't remember how she ended up finding them or if they ever told you) but when she brought him back, he was a bloodthirsty ghoul and she kinda snapped from there.
Cliche' or not, at least it's done correctly, aye?
That aside, the Red mage in me is more excited about the origin of Chandra.
Gideon can kill himself.
February 8, 2015 1:54 p.m.
Depends on how they write it. Could be done poorly, could be done well. It's all in the writing.
February 8, 2015 1:56 p.m.
VampireArmy says... #47
We'll see for sure. I have faith that it'll come out well. The writing department has been really good with giving life to other cards like Kaalia
February 8, 2015 1:58 p.m.
andymaul123 says... #48
Liliana's origin story sounds vaguely familiar to another scorned-healer-turns-evil-planeswalker in MTG's history. Let's hope she stays away from the Glistening Oil.
February 8, 2015 1:59 p.m.
Alesha's story was SUPER well written. Handled a really tricky topic in a fantastic way.
February 8, 2015 1:59 p.m.
Schuesseled says... #50
Yeah, can't find anything about this, not on twitter, not on reddit, not on youtube. Post a goddarn link.
CommanderOfBolas says... #2
watching it now. looks pretty sweet
February 8, 2015 1:10 p.m.