Magic Origins SPOILERS!
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Posted on June 8, 2015, 1:03 a.m. by JWiley129
MaRo's article got spoiled early, so we have some SPICY Previews with "new" mechanics!
TL;DR: Menace is replacing Intimidate & Landwalk, Prowess is now evergreen primary in Blue secondary in Red and maybe tertiary in White, and Protection is now deciduous used only as necessary.
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IndepenentMeta says... #3
http://www.magicspoiler.com/mtg-spoiler/ravaging-blaze/
So now there's another burn spell with an x trigger...
Don't quote me on this guys but this might cause a problem...
June 16, 2015 2:58 a.m.
IndepenentMeta says... #4
No He messages me directly and said if any of these little shits start crying and try to make a shit storm ignore them. so that's what I'm doing.
June 16, 2015 3 a.m.
That card was spoiled a couple of pages ago,but it does look interesting without a doubt. I'm excited to see more spell mastery!
June 16, 2015 3 a.m.
IndepenentMeta says... #7
O I just barely saw it right now. I really haven't been paying attention to the spoilers cause I'm starting to get into modern magic.
But anyways it looks as if thou their trying to hint that every planeswalker is going to have its own set of cards.
June 16, 2015 3:03 a.m.
I really dislike red 
spells in general but the Mastery part is nice on this one. Not nice enough to play it but I like it.
June 16, 2015 3:09 a.m.
IndepenentMeta says... #12
I should give u a heads up I think I heard them talking bout a burn deck epidemic
June 16, 2015 3:17 a.m.
IndepenentMetaDo you crack packs of Modern Monsters?
I really like origins so far Albeit the planes walkers are kinda meh (besides Lili),But I reallyhope they have a cool land cycle featuring the planes walkers homelands, that would be great
June 16, 2015 3:18 a.m.
IndepenentMeta says... #14
Lol no I was hoping I would've gotten top four this past weekend. But my deck mama screwed me 2 straight games..
June 16, 2015 3:23 a.m.
Also I'm interested in who's talking about a burn deck epidemic...
Source???
June 16, 2015 3:24 a.m.
IndepenentMeta says... #16
What you guys need is more cards like gem stone caverns. I saw it play out in a modern tournament last weekend and I have to say its pretty impressive stuff
June 16, 2015 3:25 a.m.
IndepenentMeta - I'd like it if you stayed on topic, please.
June 16, 2015 3:27 a.m.
IndepenentMeta says... #18
The company might have been and it's word of mouth I don't have an Internet source. But with that card being spoiled and them throwing Chandra cards first in the spoilers it could mean a burn deck might be breaking teir this format
June 16, 2015 3:27 a.m.
IndepenentMeta You realize this is the spoiler thread right, not the modern thread...
June 16, 2015 3:29 a.m.
You think That gemstone caverns will be in origins??? Unless that is the case I don't see how that's on topic...
June 16, 2015 3:30 a.m.
IndepenentMeta says... #22
I am aware
Gem stone carvers reprint in origins ya ay or nay
June 16, 2015 3:31 a.m.
JWiley129 What do you think about a land cycle featuring all the planeswalkers homelands?
June 16, 2015 3:31 a.m.
IndepenentMeta - You are not speculating on Origins, you're speculating on other formats. If you want to have another discussion about banlists, Modern, or Standard, go make another thread.
And neither Gemstone Mine nor Gemstone Caverns will be reprinted.
PutridLeech - I could see that, but they wouldn't be dual lands.
June 16, 2015 3:32 a.m.
IndepenentMeta says... #25
Ugh I was wondering why you guys don't ever wanna see Kool shit in magic...
June 16, 2015 3:35 a.m.
IndepenentMeta says... #26
Whats land cycling again? Is it something like fetches?
June 16, 2015 3:36 a.m.
IndepenentMeta - I'm Confused... Why do you keep making Absurd, General statements w/ no proof whatsoever that satisfies why you think this will happen. It's probably the reason why everyone thinks you are constantly trolling them
Also I definitely do not think Gemstone Caverns will be reprinted in Origins
TLDR- You can link cards by using [ [Card name] ] Without the spaces
June 16, 2015 3:36 a.m.
IndepenentMeta says... #28
1) The statement bout the burn deck is backed up by the card I just spoiled
2) The topic on ugin was about downfall leaving the format and my questioning if we re gonna have a card that destroys walkers. Which was answered before someone tried throwing the famous fit.
3) Gemstone caverns was suggested by me on your suggestion about land cycles
There need I state more?
June 16, 2015 3:39 a.m.
Yes actually, I would
First off, Just because a red card is spoiled does not mean that There is going to be a "Burn deck epidemic." By that logic every time a new card is spoiled there will be a new deck... That is obviously not the case
Secondly, Ugin, the Spirit Dragon is not a problem in the current format, Not sure how to get that into your head... Anyways by the time that these Decks are casting Ugin, the Spirit Dragon, the game is already lost for the opponent. I agree that downfall leaving is going to affect decks in standard, but that does not mean that the format is going to be broken or that Ugin needs to be banned by any means.
Third, I mentioned a land cycle Regarding each the planes walkers homelands. Gemstone Caverns is not a homeland of any the planeswalkers, so no it is not on topic
June 16, 2015 3:46 a.m.
1) the card you just spoiled did nit backup your claim of a burn epidemic
2) the topic of ugin was brought up because of you constantly making outrageous claims,for example, saying ugin is broken.
3) you brought up gemstone caverns being in a modern tournament,not because of someone saying anything to do with land cycles this set.
June 16, 2015 3:48 a.m.
IndepenentMeta says... #31
If there is a burn deck in the next meta would u agree to never bring that up the whole absurd statements thing? I'm going from what I'm seeing n if you don't see the same thing that's not my problem... You will see what I'm talking bout... Just like the Kronos and just like the temur deck... I was right bout both those things. And those were among the many topics you guys disagreed with...
June 16, 2015 3:49 a.m.
Something really needs to be done about this guy...he is a very obvious troll who loves to stir shit up while seeming like an innocent victim while everyone is wrong and bullying him. He is the definition of infamy on tapped out.
June 16, 2015 3:51 a.m.
IndepenentMeta says... #35
1) it looks like their going by themes. So if chandra has her own theme it might be ok to speculate that there will be a burn deck. Seeing as Chandra is the fire planeswalker
2) I don't care bout this topic I already said there's nothing wrong with the card...
3) I know and I suggested Gemstone Caverns not because it's a home land but to me it's something magic needs more of
I'm sorry if your having trouble understanding my very complicated logic...
June 16, 2015 3:52 a.m.
When I try to reason w/IndepenentMeta it's like talking to a wall
June 16, 2015 3:54 a.m.
IndepenentMeta says... #38
So I can talk bout what's going to come out in origins are you guys trolling me or something?! Cause it seems like you guys are... You guys asked me to provide my logic behind my very irrational statements and time and time again you guys throw little Inconvent fits like this... You guys have proven to me time and time again that there's no reasoning with you. Now look at it this way... Is meta the problem or are we just being trolls to him... By shooting down every statement he has ever made
June 16, 2015 3:57 a.m.
Same here man,that's what makes me so sure hes a troll. Nothings getting through to him because he chooses not to listen. So many people have given him deep insight of formats,cards,meta,etc. But yet he shows a severe lack of knowledge,which by normal peoples standards is astounding.
June 16, 2015 3:58 a.m.
IndepenentMeta - I asked you twice to take this somewhere else. Move it now, otherwise we'll get Epoch involved.
June 16, 2015 3:58 a.m.
well... To be honest when You make, Irrational, Absurd, Outrageous, Off the map claims, then yes you get shot down every time.
Also you logic is flawed as we pointed out earlier
June 16, 2015 3:59 a.m.
If you look back I tried to join in on serious conversation about origins,even in the middle of an argument,yet you continue to post completely illogical arguments and act like you're getting picked on! Come on man!
June 16, 2015 4 a.m.
IndepenentMeta says... #43
I really don't feel like having this conversion... Get epoch I'm sure he can read..
June 16, 2015 4 a.m.
I like how you use your grammar as a form of trolling,sometimes its terrible,every now and again its legible and whenever you act like you're the bigger man you can spell,minus a few words to piss some people off.
June 16, 2015 4:02 a.m.
IndepenentMeta says... #45
Anyone who wants to talk on the topic and not follow these guys trolling...
Have you guys noticed that the only planeswalker missing is the white one? Does this mean that elspeth will get her own walker?
June 16, 2015 4:15 a.m.
The 5 planeswalkers were spoiled several months ago. Its Gideon.
EDit: also, Elspeth has caught a bad disease called "death". We will not be seeing her in a while, if ever.
June 16, 2015 4:17 a.m. Edited.
IndepenentMeta - No, the White planeswalker is Gideon. You will notice that he shows up in the Magic: Origins teaser trailer.
Also, Elspeth already has three versions: Elspeth, Knight-Errant, Elspeth Tirel, and Elspeth, Sun's Champion.
June 16, 2015 4:17 a.m.
IndepenentMeta says... #48
O yeah I remember hearing some guys at my shop talking bout Gideon. But that hasn't been spolied at all right? Wondering what his effect is gonna be seeing that most of his cards have him becoming a creature
June 16, 2015 4:22 a.m.
IndepenentMeta says... #50
Would a wish speculation be out of the question?
Like that one card that lets you play cards from your sideboard... Cause if it's guideon we can almost assure that there will be some kinda pump effect
IndepenentMeta says... #1
crazy little monkey ain't he.... I said it was ok but this man insist in trying to make an arguement about. Let's really listen to epoch's advice n ignore this guy
June 16, 2015 2:56 a.m.